OK - Nex Benedict, 16 year old student died after being beaten in school restroom, Owasso, Feb 8 2024

[al66pine]

Confusing and/or conflicting statements in MSM? Below in MSM.

Q1. Did a school employee call 911 soon after incident?
Q2. Did a school employee report this incident, w a non-911 call, to LE on same day it occurred? Or later?
Q3. Did Nex say --- to LEO or anyone --- I did not report the incident to school officials, because "I didn't see the point?"
Q4. If Nex had texted family (presumably including Mother Sue) to say Nex did NOT report this to school, why did Mother Sue express "dissatisfaction" re school & urge LEO to inquire about school's "delay" in alerting "authorities"?


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From DailyMail, Mar. 13.*
".... The 21-minute interview conducted at Owasso hospital just two hours after the February 7 fight, detailed the events leading up to the altercation, prior to Nex getting discharged.

"Officer Caleb Thompson spoke with the 16-year-old, accompanied by their MOTHER SUE...." (<---my CAPS)

"He questioned Nex about their decision NOT TO REPORT the girls' actions TO SCHOOL officials, to which Nex responds: 'I didn't see the point. I told my mom.' " (<---my CAPS)

"Sue expressed DISSATISFACTION with the SCHOOL'S handling of the situation, urging Thompson to inquire about the delay in alerting the authorities." (<---my CAPS)

" 'They DROPPED THE BALL on this one not notifying me right away,' said Thompson." (<---my CAPS)

"Nex described in text to their family what happened before being taken to the hospital before they died.
'I got jumped at school. 3 on 1, had to go to the ER,' Nex wrote,... SCHOOL did NOT REPORT to police.' "(<---my CAPS, sbm)

"Officers investigating Nex's death said that they were called to the hospital by the teen's family at around 3pm on February 7, but that NO 911 CALL had been made BY the SCHOOL." (<---my CAPS)
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Puzzling to me.
Any quotes from other MSM links that answer ^ questions or clarify ^ stmts?
Anyone? TiA

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Nex Benedict cause of death revealed by medical examiner as SUICIDE

Oklahoma non-binary Nex Benedict died by suicide from a drug overdose, not from injuries sustained in a school fight, a medical examiner has confirmed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[IzzyBlanche]

@al66pine, I saw some of those inconsistencies from day 1, and I call BS on the suicide conclusion.

 

[airportwoman]

Wouldn't blood about the nose and mouth be an indication of trauma?

The local police have been insisting death wasn't the result of the beating.

Hopefully, the federal civil rights investigation will uncover the truth.

JMO

The U.S. Department of Education is investigating Nex Benedict’s Oklahoma school district: What happens next? | Brookings

Rachel M. Perera outlines what happens when the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights opens an investigation

www.brookings.edu

Pulmonary edema is not an uncommon component of drug overdoses. That's the "pink froth" thing you may have learned about in first aid classes. This, on top of the arrhythmias and neurological issues caused by overdoses of both drugs.

 

[Mack the Knife]

Respectful reminder to everyone that while Nex was AFAB and using a girl's restroom as required by their school district, Nex's family has said they used they/them pronouns and their friends have said they also used he/him pronouns at school.

 

[MyBelle]

Pulmonary edema is not an uncommon component of drug overdoses. That's the "pink froth" thing you may have learned about in first aid classes. This, on top of the arrhythmias and neurological issues caused by overdoses of both drugs.

I was responding to the OP who said: 'The summary report released by Oklahoma's chief medical examiner on Wednesday found antidepressants and antihistamines in Benedict's system in addition to blood about the nose and mouth'.

That sounds to me that the blood was a result of head trauma rather than suicide.

JMO

 

[MassGuy]

An overdose of medication could obviously be an accident (depending on the levels) or a suicide. Early on, authorities indicated that they were confident that the altercation was not the cause of death. This seemed highly unlikely, and they obviously knew the scrutiny that such a statement would make. There is something we aren't being told here, and I wonder if there's a note.

 

[LouTennant]

Would that mean taking a massive dosage of both would be unlikely to lead to suicide? I'm not arguing! I see you are a doctor and I have no idea about meds.

Whatever happened exactly, I also believe those girls should be charged. MO

RIP to Nex. I really did believe they died due to head trauma.

I think the only way charges can be bought is if there was previous bullying from the 3 girls towards Nex. This could give reason to harassment and bullying that led to suicide.

I thinking that this was a first time confrontation to all involved. They all walked away and that leaves LE in a difficult position to arrest the girls let alone charge them.

Jmo

 

[bombardier]

I'd really like to see the medical examiners report myself, including the neuropath report and what levels are being deemed toxic, before jumping to any conclusions. this second hand info is opening up this case to a lot of speculation.

 

[housewife]

I’m sure the fight led to many bad things for Nex including suspension. But on the body cam, Nex admits they didn’t know the girls and started the physical part of the confrontation by throwing water. No, I do not believe that kids in high school should retaliate or solve their differences by fighting, but they are immature and fights happen regularly in high school.

I do not believe the fighting girls deserve any blame for what later happened unless the family, school or police can show a pattern of bullying behavior from those specific girls.

It is tragic that Nex did not feel they had enough reasons to continue living, due to inadequate mental health support or a lack of safe school environment. But the girls who fought Nex cannot be held responsible for this death. There is not always someone we can blame for tragedy.

IMO, I have watched the body cam, but my opinions are based on memory when I first saw it a week ago

The word "fight" means that all parties intended to cause violence.
This was an attack, an ambush of three people on one. The attackers chose to reply with violence after they were sprinkled with... water.

Fights do NOT happen regularly in all high schools.

The word "tragedy" is not appropriate here. Violence against Nex was not inevitable.

 

[IDK]

I’m sure the fight led to many bad things for Nex including suspension. But on the body cam, Nex admits they didn’t know the girls and started the physical part of the confrontation by throwing water. No, I do not believe that kids in high school should retaliate or solve their differences by fighting, but they are immature and fights happen regularly in high school.

I do not believe the fighting girls deserve any blame for what later happened unless the family, school or police can show a pattern of bullying behavior from those specific girls.

It is tragic that Nex did not feel they had enough reasons to continue living, due to inadequate mental health support or a lack of safe school environment. But the girls who fought Nex cannot be held responsible for this death. There is not always someone we can blame for tragedy.

IMO, I have watched the body cam, but my opinions are based on memory when I first saw it a week ago

I am in agreement, as we have only heard one side of the story as far as I’m aware. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I don’t recall hearing any interviews or statements from the girls who have been accused of bullying and fighting.

I’m a firm believer in a hard line against bullying, but would like to know if there’s more to the story.

 

[housewife]

Here is another recent case of a student getting jumped (attacked by more than one person).

Missouri AG says girl who smashed teen's head should be tried as adult

Interestingly, I don't see any inquiries about Kaylee being bullied.
Perhaps it doesn't really matter, because violence is never the answer and attackers should be held responsible for their actions, regardless?

edit: link update

 

[LouTennant]

I don’t believe we’ve


I am in agreement, as we have only heard one side of the story as far as I’m aware. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I don’t recall hearing any interviews or statements from the girls who have been accused of bullying and fighting.

I’m a firm believer in a hard line against bullying, but would like to know if there’s more to the story.

This is the part that frustrates me a bit. LE released the bodycam footage of Nex in part to show transparency around the incident.

The day after Nex passes and the attackers now know what info is out there and have no doubt lawered up.

I remember hearing that there were witnesses in the bathroom so we should at least hear what they have to say. Jmo

 

[doublestop]

I'm curious how they determine suicide vs accidental overdose.

 

[Soulmagent]

I was going to say the same but did want some clarification on should Nex have been in the girls rest room at all due to the new rules that were bought in? I'm of the understanding that schools will let pupils use neutral bathrooms where there is are issues regarding gender.

Really , at 16 the genders on the door shouldnt matter . I am not gonna to pee myself looking for a womans room ,when I see the mens room. Maybe it is just me. As humans sometimes we be Karening to much .

The word "fight" means that all parties intended to cause violence.
This was an attack, an ambush of three people on one. The attackers chose to reply with violence after they were sprinkled with... water.

Fights do NOT happen regularly in all high schools.

The word "tragedy" is not appropriate here. Violence against Nex was not inevitable.

Nex threw water on the girls first (not sure of their pronouns} One girl threw water on 3 others and those girls responded. All parties did participate . With Nex admitting instigating the first physical assault, by dosing the witches with water? I dunno what they was thinking.
Fights do happen at all high schools. Everywhere children are ,everywhere people are, people fight. Even on WS.
IMO the fight probably did cause her death.

 

[realanastasia]

I'm curious how they determine suicide vs accidental overdose.

I speculate that maybe it comes down to how much of each drug was present in the body of the deceased child—if Nex took an obviously excessive amount of either Prozac or Benadryl, I would be inclined to think it was intentionally done for the purpose of ending their life. If there is something closer to a “normal” amount of each drug that a person could plausibly have taken by accident (for example, taking 2 doses of a drug 8 hours apart, not realizing the instructions say to wait 12 hours between doses) then I think accidental overdose would be more appropriate. In this case, I believe we still don’t know if Nex was prescribed the Prozac or if it belonged to someone else, and it seems like that would also factor into the determination of accidental/intentional death.

In all honesty, I am pretty skeptical of the local authorities’ ability/willingness to release unbiased information about Nex’s death (my skepticism traces back to the news stories from almost 2 weeks ago that cited the local medical examiner as having concluded that the injuries inflicted on Nex during the fight had nothing to do with their death).

 

[realanastasia]

Really , at 16 the genders on the door shouldnt matter . I am not gonna to pee myself looking for a womans room ,when I see the mens room. Maybe it is just me. As humans sometimes we be Karening to much .

Nex threw water on the girls first (not sure of their pronouns} One girl threw water on 3 others and those girls responded. All parties did participate . With Nex admitting instigating the first physical assault, by dosing the witches with water? I dunno what they was thinking.
Fights do happen at all high schools. Everywhere children are ,everywhere people are, people fight. Even on WS.
IMO the fight probably did cause her death.

Is dousing someone with water “physical assault”? IMO it is not.* I’m not trying to be pedantic, but I have a hard time with language that suggests parity between Nex’s actions (throwing water on someone) and the 3-on-1 physical beating Nex endured as a result.

*If we later find out that “throwing water” actually means Nex chucked a full stainless steel Stanley tumbler at the girls with the intention of the vessel hitting them, I will withdraw my reservations about calling it physical assault.

 

[Soulmagent]

Is dousing someone with water “physical assault”? IMO it is not.* I’m not trying to be pedantic, but I have a hard time with language that suggests parity between Nex’s actions (throwing water on someone) and the 3-on-1 physical beating Nex endured as a result.

*If we later find out that “throwing water” actually means Nex chucked a full stainless steel Stanley tumbler at the girls with the intention of the vessel hitting them, I will withdraw my reservations about calling it physical assault.

Legally in my state it is physical assault to toss water on a person as has been described in this case.
I guess I am being pedantic, I do that often. Probably why I joined this forum for really.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Do you think if it was in fact a deliberate fatal overdose, that it stemmed from the fight?

Without a single doubt. Other things may have been going on too, but the timing suggests primary contribution from the fight. Public humiliation is a significant driving factor for suicide.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Would that mean taking a massive dosage of both would be unlikely to lead to suicide? I'm not arguing! I see you are a doctor and I have no idea about meds.

Whatever happened exactly, I also believe those girls should be charged. MOO

Large quantities of any medication can lead to death, so it's possible. I'm just saying the MSM post talked about the "fatal interaction" which is irresponsible journalism. JMO

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

• Medications that affect heart rate: Prozac can affect a person’s heart rate, and should be used with caution when combined with other medications that affect the heart rate. This includes some antipsychotics, antihistamines, heart medications, and antibiotics.

https://www.choosingtherapy.com/can-you-overdose-on-prozac/#:~:text=It%20is%20possible%20to%20overdose,Prozac%20overdose%20can%20be%20fatal.

Most medications can do that, even when not used in combination. this death has been treated by those in charge very disrespectfully from the start. If I were Nex's family, I'd want my own autopsy. MOO