OK, Noah Presgrove, 19, Sept 4, 2023, Comanche, homicide, attended a house party, found on side of road

[Keleah]

So, Jack said something really weird about the shorts in the People article I read about his story.
He threw the white shorts in his truck but then got them out and folded them by Noah's body apparently. Like... what. What Noah Presgrove’s Best Friend Says Happened the Night Before Noah Died (Exclusive)


Everything about both pairs of shorts makes no sense.

Full horror of Oklahoma teen Noah Presgrove's injuries revealed

Noah Presgrove suffered dozens of horrific injuries from broken bones to smashed teeth, brain damage, and bleeding inside his skull and chest before he died naked by a lonely highway.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There is a video in this article allegedly from the phones, did anyone happen to notice in the last 3 seconds the guy to the left with the white tee shirt & jeans on what looks like a patio, he appears to possibly be holding a piece of wood larger than a 2x4 in his left hand leaning onto the belt line area of his jeans? Him and the guy next to him seem to be watching Noah as the girl runs thru the paper in the video.

 

[AngTxGal]

Full horror of Oklahoma teen Noah Presgrove's injuries revealed

Noah Presgrove suffered dozens of horrific injuries from broken bones to smashed teeth, brain damage, and bleeding inside his skull and chest before he died naked by a lonely highway.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There is a video in this article allegedly from the phones, did anyone happen to notice in the last 3 seconds the guy to the left with the white tee shirt & jeans on what looks like a patio, he appears to possibly be holding a piece of wood larger than a 2x4 in his left hand leaning onto the belt line area of his jeans? Him and the guy next to him seem to be watching Noah as the girl runs thru the paper in the video.

So many people with alcohol being silly country kids
I saw a guy with a gun standing on the porch behind him too

At terrible perfect storm of accidents, it seems, and a bunch of drunk kids can’t recall the entire story as they are unreliable witnesses for what they even saw

Did he get in a ATV accident, have a head injury, car surf or fall out of a truck, then walk down the road and get hit by an 18 wheeler? It could be multiple things together
Do I think he was murdered- No, country kids do stupid things but they don’t spontaneously beat a friend to death.

I hurt for the suffering of his family and friends, and keep checking to see if more answers will come out
IMO

 

[Seattle1]

8/19/25

Jack claimed he happened upon the scene about 6am as he left to go fishing with his father Caleb, whom he called at 6.05am.

'I figured maybe he got a ride or something, Noah's done that before - got mad and left,' he told the Daily Mail last year.

'He was not one you usually worry about. I wasn't really thinking about it.'

This timeline is disputed by another partygoer, Kaden Pressy, who claimed he was woken up at 5.15am by Jack bursting through he door at 5.15am.

'Jack Newton bursts through the door saying 'Noah is dead'. Like, frantic, tearing up,' he told detectives in a leaked recording of a June 21 interview.

Pressy also claimed when he followed Jack to the body, Presgrove had black shorts on, in contrast to being naked with a pair of white shorts on the road nearby.

Since the Daily Mail's initial coverage of Presgrove's death last April incited global media attention, thousands of true-crime enthusiasts have flocked to three Facebook groups and Reddit to endlessly discuss the case.

Many of them are convinced Presgrove was murdered and his body dumped on the road, especially given the lack of blood at the scene.

They have hailed the lawsuit filing as a huge step towards justice for Presgrove, despite its lack of evidence of foul play so far.

The official timeline is disputed by another partygoer, Kaden Pressy, (pictured) who claimed he was woken up at 5.15am by Jack bursting through he door at 5.15am

Noah Presgrove's friends announce life-changing news after lawsuit

Jack Newton, 20, and Carter Combs, 21, were two of Noah Presgrove's best friends when he was found dead by the side of a lonely highway in Oklahoma on September 4, 2023.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

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From the MSM link"

But legal experts told the Daily Mail this didn't matter as much as it appeared, as even if the lawsuit never saw the inside of a courtroom it could still blow open the case.

That is because well before a trial, the legal process of discovery and compelling witnesses to give depositions could reveal key evidence.

Presgrove's family's lawyers, Austin Vance and Ryan Sailors from All Rise!, said this was a big part of why the lawsuit was brought in the first place.

'As we get more evidence through discovery and depositions in addition to what we already have, the story of what really happened to Noah will become more clear and people can actually be held accountable,' Sailors told the Daily Mail.

Vance believed some of Presgrove's friends were keeping what happened to him to themselves and aimed to force them to talk.
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One expected the Defendants to answer the Complaint in no other manner. It's the depositions, under oath, that will be critical here. The rules for civil suits can be very liberal in what questions can be asked during depositions. JMO

 

[Miss Poovy]

This may not be appropriate to post here, but I thought of Noah’s situation when I read about August’s injuries & how the parents are having to push to find out information.

Case of 15-year-old seriously injured at Deshler High School turned over to juvenile authorities

15-year-old August Borden almost died during an incident on his way to football practice. There are conflicting statements. Some say he fell, others say he was in a "scuffle."

www.al.com

Will be interesting to see how this case progresses through the system.

 

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8/29/25

Bombshell Twist in Naked Teen's Mysterious Death Case​

 

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8/29/25

Bombshell Twist in Naked Teen's Mysterious Death Case​

I understand that his family is seeking answers, and they are heartbroken.
The odds he was ‘beaten to death’ ? It doesn’t make sense, Ocamm’s razor says No.

Anyone who was raised in a rural area of the south is aware that teens can get alcohol and often gather at someone’s rural home to party.
So when a teen is injured or dies, who is responsible?
Do we really think all the drunk teens kept track of each other when they were drunk themselves?

Where are the adults in the room?
Adults that allow copious amounts of alcohol to a bunch of underage drinkers as they party at their home- and then don’t hang around to be sure they are safe- are exactly the kind of adults that provide alcohol to a bunch of underage drinkers.
Why is anyone surprised something went wrong?


IMO

 

[Miss Poovy]

I understand that his family is seeking answers, and they are heartbroken.
The odds he was ‘beaten to death’ ? It doesn’t make sense, Ocamm’s razor says No.

Anyone who was raised in a rural area of the south is aware that teens can get alcohol and often gather at someone’s rural home to party.
So when a teen is injured or dies, who is responsible?
Do we really think all the drunk teens kept track of each other when they were drunk themselves?

Where are the adults in the room?
Adults that allow copious amounts of alcohol to a bunch of underage drinkers as they party at their home- and then don’t hang around to be sure they are safe- are exactly the kind of adults that provide alcohol to a bunch of underage drinkers.
Why is anyone surprised something went wrong?


IMO

I agree.

 

[Soulmagent]

So many people with alcohol being silly country kids
I saw a guy with a gun standing on the porch behind him too

At terrible perfect storm of accidents, it seems, and a bunch of drunk kids can’t recall the entire story as they are unreliable witnesses for what they even saw

Did he get in a ATV accident, have a head injury, car surf or fall out of a truck, then walk down the road and get hit by an 18 wheeler? It could be multiple things together
Do I think he was murdered- No, country kids do stupid things but they don’t spontaneously beat a friend to death.

I hurt for the suffering of his family and friends, and keep checking to see if more answers will come out
IMO

I disagree.
Most of the time everything is cool . But Teens often go overboard with emotions and the first court case I ever witnessed was a case stemming from a fight at a party where a guy almost got beat to death. I was 11 or 12 and spent the summer hanging out at the courthouse.
I also personally know a guy who shot his brother dead over the last hamburger at a party .
Also a girl right up the block was at a party where they shot a guy over spitting sunflower seeds on the floor. They rolled his body to the woodline , when one party goer called the police.

I dont think what happened to Noah was an accident. It makes no sense . To many moving parts for an accident . Two many shoes to many shorts and a nakid kid in the road??

 

[Chimera]

The shorts being removed or replaced has always bothered me.
I doubt he was hit by an 18-wheeler.
There should've been scrapes and injuries to his lower extremities ?
On the fence about this entire scenario.
Imo.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

IIRC, the party house was occupied by the two sisters Carter and Avery, who were of age and hosted the party. For all practical purposes, they were the adults in the room.

 

[Seattle1]

Another year, another Anniversary. Rest easy, kid.

Bumping this MSM dated Sept 7, 2023. IMO, doesn't get much better than this. From Noah's 7 year Coach Casy Rowell:

“I just picture him coming to practice on his skateboard. I never heard him utter a bad word about anyone. He was fun to be around......He was one of a kind and he would have fought a bear for me. I would have done the same for him..."

 

[Little Jack]

If there are secrets being kept it doesn't surprise me. When I was in high school a group of athletes from one local school at a party beat a guy from a rival team so severely he was knocked unconscious, could not remember the event and had his jaw wired shut for months as he recovered. Plenty of students witnessed the event and it was all over the kids in our age group that they'd agreed they'd never tell who had done it. I heard one to even scoff about the idea of telling on the perpetrators as though it was a point of honor to keep silent.

This was more than 20 years ago and not a single one of them has ever made a peep.

So im not optimistic that anyone will tell the truth.

 

[AngTxGal]

The shorts being removed or replaced has always bothered me.
I doubt he was hit by an 18-wheeler.
There should've been scrapes and injuries to his lower extremities ?
On the fence about this entire scenario.
Imo.

He had a wreck on the ATV and was muddy, took a shower and borrowed a friend’s basketball shorts. It isn’t a mystery how he had a change in shorts. It isn’t odd for kids to kick off shoes and tease each other and end up with mismatched shoes.

Do I think it is beyond a young man to stand naked on the cab of a truck and surf? No.
I know kids car and truck surf- and race down the streets going over 100 mph, and do donuts in the roads, and have car accidents, drive through fences, flip their car in a ditch, drive off a bridge, and some get drunk and irritated and decide to walk home.

Kids do these things in my area- every weekend and throughout the week during the summer.
Are they intending to get killed? No, they think they are immortal, and someone gives them alcohol and car keys.

The thing is, you can’t apply adult logical thinking to teenagers who are drunk at a party.
And then if you add drugs, or testosterone competitions, and motor vehicles… it is quite amazing any of us live to be 25!

I still don’t think his friends beat him to death… I don’t think there is some conspiracy, and I don’t think his death was intentional in any way.
Just my opinion- but I’m guessing it was a terrible heartbreaking horrific series of accidents by kids who don’t behave in a mature manner when they are sober- and then you add alcohol.

IMO

 

[She-Ra]

The shorts being removed or replaced has always bothered me.
I doubt he was hit by an 18-wheeler.
There should've been scrapes and injuries to his lower extremities ?
On the fence about this entire scenario.
Imo.

Yep, me too.

 

[brillaba]

He had a wreck on the ATV and was muddy, took a shower and borrowed a friend’s basketball shorts. It isn’t a mystery how he had a change in shorts. It isn’t odd for kids to kick off shoes and tease each other and end up with mismatched shoes.

Do I think it is beyond a young man to stand naked on the cab of a truck and surf? No.
I know kids car and truck surf- and race down the streets going over 100 mph, and do donuts in the roads, and have car accidents, drive through fences, flip their car in a ditch, drive off a bridge, and some get drunk and irritated and decide to walk home.

Kids do these things in my area- every weekend and throughout the week during the summer.
Are they intending to get killed? No, they think they are immortal, and someone gives them alcohol and car keys.

The thing is, you can’t apply adult logical thinking to teenagers who are drunk at a party.
And then if you add drugs, or testosterone competitions, and motor vehicles… it is quite amazing any of us live to be 25!

I still don’t think his friends beat him to death… I don’t think there is some conspiracy, and I don’t think his death was intentional in any way.
Just my opinion- but I’m guessing it was a terrible heartbreaking horrific series of accidents by kids who don’t behave in a mature manner when they are sober- and then you add alcohol.

IMO

All valid observations, but if it was truly just a terrible accident, why hasn’t any one of these kids said so & explained what happened? NP wasn’t only gravely injured, he died. I can’t imagine keeping silent if I had insight as to how.
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In my mind, I keep wondering if he fell or was pushed from a moving vehicle, because some of the injuries seem like they could result from that, but again, the professional analysts suggest the injuries aren’t consistent with that as cause.
I keep hoping one of these folks will finally come forward and reveal more.
It must be excruciating for his family.
All MOO

 

[Miss Poovy]

All valid observations, but if it was truly just a terrible accident, why hasn’t any one of these kids said so & explained what happened? NP wasn’t only gravely injured, he died. I can’t imagine keeping silent if I had insight as to how.
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In my mind, I keep wondering if he fell or was pushed from a moving vehicle, because some of the injuries seem like they could result from that, but again, the professional analysts suggest the injuries aren’t consistent with that as cause.
I keep hoping one of these folks will finally come forward and reveal more.
It must be excruciating for his family.
All MOO

Probably because they didn’t speak up immediately if it was accidental, maybe because of high levels of intoxication. Then it would seem like to younger folks, a lot of questions & accusations would be made & it “wouldn’t help the dead person”. That’s how some teens think.

 

[Live_and_Learn]

All valid observations, but if it was truly just a terrible accident, why hasn’t any one of these kids said so & explained what happened? NP wasn’t only gravely injured, he died. I can’t imagine keeping silent if I had insight as to how.
<modsnip: no source link for information posted as fact>
In my mind, I keep wondering if he fell or was pushed from a moving vehicle, because some of the injuries seem like they could result from that, but again, the professional analysts suggest the injuries aren’t consistent with that as cause.
I keep hoping one of these folks will finally come forward and reveal more.
It must be excruciating for his family.
All MOO

<modsnip: quoted post was snipped> If he were sleeping in the back of a truck, with the shorts folded under his head (not outside of his normal behavior) and then woke up as the truck was moving, tried to put them back on, and tumbled out, this all could have happened without the drivers of the truck (possibly intoxicated) even knowing it happened. This whole situation is so sad for everyone, especially those who lost their best friend are are now having their suffering used as a profit center. One of many lessons: Be sure you know where your kids are and what they are doing, even if they are older. I cannot imagine being anyone remotely close to this situation. Heart breaking for all.

 

[LordMo]

Probably because they didn’t speak up immediately if it was accidental, maybe because of high levels of intoxication. Then it would seem like to younger folks, a lot of questions & accusations would be made & it “wouldn’t help the dead person”. That’s how some teens think.

agreed, plus having been in the outskirts of some hard-drinking college incidents (thankfully none fatal,) a lot of teenagers and young adults are terrified that even just definitively placing themselves there will get them in some degree of serious trouble even if they can't articulate why, or they're worried about getting a friend in trouble.