Identified! OK - OSBI Needs Help to ID Woman In Photo *Resolved*

  • #181
QUESTION--where did you all find the unretouched photograph? TIA

I found it by doing a search for OSBI's site. ETA: Pardon, it wasn't the OSBI search that bore fruit, it was a search for the Sheriff's office that did. Post number 99 on page four is where I posted my find. (The flooding and water rationing are distracting me., see the topic I started in the Jury Room for more information if you are curious.)
 
  • #182
hello, im a Crime Library addict, recently found this site and ive been reading different posts and threads ever since. This is the first time ive ever posted and just hope my comments are okay/ interesting...:o

Ive been taking a real good look at the pic, and i think shes lying on one of those old polyester matresses - the sort that used to go on kids bunkbeds. When i was a kid, my mum used to have a couple of those for if my sister and i had friends over and she used to store them under the bed, they often used to be made of bright colour decorated with palm leaves and stuff like that. As far as i know, they dont sell them with the shiny polyester fabric anymore, but i guess alot of people would still have them around. I can see two quite deep groves in the fabric which is what makes me think its a mattress instead of a duvet or pillow or whatever.
 
  • #183
sorry, just another thing thats been bugging me....

Her eyebrows - they look very clean/ neat for having been plucked, and im just wondering if they've been threaded ( a form of hair removal used by asian (pakistani/ indian) women)

I know alot of light skinned asian women and her features (nose/ chin) bear some similarities, just wondered if she could be asian/ indian.....??
 
  • #184
I'm adding that actually young women *do* wear the velour clothing now. It's considered trendy/sexy. I'm not that old, 30ish, and I wear the stuff and have been since clothing made from it became available in stores again. A velour robe is quite soft, and warm, soothing. Even embroidered (or, as it seems this one has, with appliques in an oriental motiff) it isn't uncomfortable to wear around the house. Maybe she was sick, or a stay at home mom or something and her husband killed her? That's what I am leaning towards, she was married to her murderer, and he kept a picture of her as a trophy. He may have married others and killed them as well.

ETA: She seems Italian to me, but she could be of another ethnicity. Jewish perhaps? Amy Winehouse would look something like the subject of the photo would living, without her trademark make-up. ETA2: Check out her official MySpace page linked at the bottom of the Wikipedia article if you haven't heard her sing. She's got an incredible voice. ETA3: Or, check out her official site, maybe it's just me, or maybe it's MySpace again. The songs on her page aren't finishing, the sound just stops, though the songs play on. ETA4: One of her songs is used for an advertisement for a new show, drat what's the name of it, Mad Man or something like that? About the advertising industry. I can't recall what channel is putting the series out, either. Lemme do a search. Got it, Mad Men on AMC. ETA5: Here's a YouTube clip of her video "Back to Black". She really looked like Amy Winehouse, IMO.
 
  • #185
hello, im a Crime Library addict, recently found this site and ive been reading different posts and threads ever since. This is the first time ive ever posted and just hope my comments are okay/ interesting...:o

Ive been taking a real good look at the pic, and i think shes lying on one of those old polyester matresses - the sort that used to go on kids bunkbeds. When i was a kid, my mum used to have a couple of those for if my sister and i had friends over and she used to store them under the bed, they often used to be made of bright colour decorated with palm leaves and stuff like that. As far as i know, they dont sell them with the shiny polyester fabric anymore, but i guess alot of people would still have them around. I can see two quite deep groves in the fabric which is what makes me think its a mattress instead of a duvet or pillow or whatever.

WOW! I've been thinking and thinking, what does that comforter remind me of? And you've hit right on it: a bunk bed mattress. We had several of these, too, they are so thin they'll slip under a real bed and can be pulled out for company. They were shiny, and bright colors.....and they DON'T make them just like that anymore, we've shopped recently for a new one and the whole design has changed.

Welcome to Websleuths!
 
  • #186
Adding, for reference, here is a page of pictures of Amy Winehouse. Some of them have less, or no makeup. I see a striking resemblance between the person in the photograph and her. I think she looked a lot like that when alive.
 
  • #187
I have just posted a question regarding the mattress to a website that is dedicated to beds. They seem to have a passion for the design of a lot of different types of beds, so perhaps they can provide some additional insight. Here is the site I posted the message to:
http://bedzine.com/blog/about
and here is the message I posted:

"This is probably a strange request, but perhaps the expertise on your site can help. I am posting a link to a webiste from the McCalain County Sheriff's office in Oklahoma. They are seeking the public's help with identifying a photograph that was found at a gas station in Purcell, Oklahoma on June 20, 2007. The picture appears to be of a lady who is dead. I subscribe to a true crime blog called Websleuths.com and we have been trying to identify the comforter or mattress that she is laying on. Can you please share it with your friends who are experts and see what their opinion is? It is very bright and colorful, and appears to go up under the headboard or footboard that is visible. Someone thought it looked like perhaps a mattress that used to be used for bunkbeds because they were really colorful. Again, it would be very much appreciated if you could provide any insight or comments you might have regarding the mattress or comforter that she is laying on. Thanks in advance for your help. Here is the link with the photograph:
http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=25"

I will let you guys know if I hear anything back from them.:)
 
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  • #189
Maybe it is a futon she is laying on, like the one posted here:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3y4vu5

There are many, many, futon covers that are very bright and colorful. It makes sense that it is a mattress that she is laying on as opposed to a comforter or bedspread. You would have expected a comforter or bedspread to have been disheveled from whatever events led up to her murder.
 
  • #190
It looks like a Hawaiian tropical pink shower curtain, maybe?
 
  • #191
I've finally got up enough nerve to look at the untouched photo again. I agree that it looks like a tropical print. Also, it looks as if she might have a slight cleft in her chin. Anyone else see that? If she does it might make it easier to rule out some of the other missing women that photos have been posted of.
 
  • #192
Does anyone else besides me and my husband think she resembled Amy Winehouse?
 
  • #193
You ladies are so awesome with all the ideas you've come up with, and especially the details, like the little moles, which will help in this lady's identification.

I just can't get this girl out of my mind. There is something about the expression on her face, a quiet resignation or something, that just tugs at my heart. I hope that she is identified, her body found and the killer is found and brought to justice. It's just too awful to think he may be out there snapping more mementos for his photo album. He has to be stopped. The smeared blood on her forearm and around the thumb area make me hope she was able to leave her mark on the evil that did this to her.

I have a question, I'm so sorry because it's gross, but there is something I am noticing today in a whole new way. We've all seen the red globules in her hair, and seem to be in agreement that it is bloody brain matter. We can see what appears to be a plastic tie peeking through her hair, and her neck seems to have a corresponding thin bruise......now here is my question: If I look in the extreme lower left quadrant of the picture, I can see something that looks like (I'm sorry) brownish hamburger meat as it feeds out of the grinding machine. Up until today, my mind processed that area first as "hair" then as "brain matter" but today, it just looks different to me......more tubular somehow.

Does anyone know what that area of the photo is depicting?
 
  • #194
Does anyone else besides me and my husband think she resembled Amy Winehouse?

Kat, I think there is a resemblance, but the girl in the photo looks younger and more delicate, small boned, to me.
 
  • #195
I apologize for three posts in a row.

I wanted to comment that I do not remember hearing about plastic ties being used in any of the "trucker" serial murders. I'm going to check to be sure, but if no ties were used then I think this case will differ enough to be able to drop that angle. (It already differs in that the trucker murders usually are discovered with the finding of a body, not a photo.)
 
  • #196
I know some people have already noticed this, but I wanted to direct people's attention to her LEFT eye. You can't see the left side of her face, but if you look closely, you'll see that her left eyebrow area is very, very swollen, and purple. I think that's where the entry wound is.

I really hope they find out who she is soon. If she's been found and buried already, maybe this photo would help in the prosecution of her killer.

I noticed, I pointed it out a few post back that it looked like that side of her face was bruised and swollen where the other eye/ eyebrow was.

ETA: I didn't notice the fly before but there is definately one sitting in the blood. I am still convinced that she is on top of some type of comforter in a bed.
 
  • #197
Just a thought, but maybe she has been identified and buried , and the connectios to this photo have'nt been made because noone is looking for her now.
Do ya'll think this photo fell into the gas station parking lot by accident?
I do, I don't think it was dropped in the lot on purpose.. MOO...:cool:
 
  • #198
Interesting, doc. There is a bit of resemblance there.
When I looked at the pic of the victim I thought that it reminded me of some art paintings I had seen somewhere so I did a web search.
Whether or not the perp was trying to imitate a particular painting or not or possibly create his own work of art I do not know but I did note that the comparison brought more clearly to mind some impressions I get from the victim pic.

1. An art painting is often posed for and I got that impression about this victim pic.
2. In an art picture the artists controls what you see and your perspective, angle of view to some degree and again I felt that this was what I see in the victim pic as well.

I see a few more things but these were my first main impressions.
 
  • #199
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I have a question, I'm so sorry because it's gross, but there is something I am noticing today in a whole new way. We've all seen the red globules in her hair, and seem to be in agreement that it is bloody brain matter. We can see what appears to be a plastic tie peeking through her hair, and her neck seems to have a corresponding thin bruise......now here is my question: If I look in the extreme lower left quadrant of the picture, I can see something that looks like (I'm sorry) brownish hamburger meat as it feeds out of the grinding machine. Up until today, my mind processed that area first as "hair" then as "brain matter" but today, it just looks different to me......more tubular somehow.

Does anyone know what that area of the photo is depicting?

I went back and looked at it. I originally thought it was hair that was maybe wet or matted. I honestly can't really tell now what it is.
 
  • #200
Kat, I think there is a resemblance, but the girl in the photo looks younger and more delicate, small boned, to me.


Amy Winehouse is 23/24. I am not sure about the small bones, we can't see her whole face. But the jawline, nose line, and set of the eyes is very close. The skin tone in life was probably not far either.
 

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