No, the bags under her eyes, and her hair hold a sort of like a "sick day" look to me. I think her husband or SO killed her, and that it's very possible he has married and murdered other women as well. If the robe were put on her after death, there'd be blood staining/smears on it. I think she was wearing it when she died, and she died in her own home, or in a place where she felt comfortable with the idea of being in a robe.
Identified! OK - OSBI Needs Help to ID Woman In Photo *Resolved*
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I think there is a better chance the girl is more local. She doesn't look middle eastern to me at all.
Those particular types of robes were very common back in the 80s/90s. My grandmother had a lot of them which looked similar. Yes, it does seem to be 'flocked' and the pattern on it seems to be like an applique with stitching around it or possibly embroidered. (She bought a lot of her clothes at Sears, J.C.Penny's, etc. instead of Walmart. However, many of her robes were gifts from family who spent more on them.) You would have been able to find them in garage or estate sales in steady supply tho.
I am not seeing a cleft in her chin. I keep looking, but not seeing it yet.
If it is Tara C., I don't know there will be any way to verify it is her unless they send the photo to the lab in NM who did the original work on the other photos they thought to be Tara. With both her parents gone, I don't know how they will identify her and this photo could linger on forever unless they either find the perp or her body. (In all the reports I have read there wasn't a mention of other family members either.) Sad to say. They also need to send the photo to Polaroid (if it is a polaroid instant cam shot) to identify the year the paper was used etc.
It is difficult to tell what the OSBI here will do to find out who she is. I don't hold much hope out they are that interested being it was only on one tv station and finally in the local paper in Purcell, Oklahoma where the photo was found.
If you are talking about the black and white photo of the girl killed by Franklin Lloyd...I don't think it resembles her at all. I wish I had my photo editing capabilities I had on my other computer so I could show you about the nose etc and the similarities with the living pictures of Tara C. They are spot on.
Those particular types of robes were very common back in the 80s/90s. My grandmother had a lot of them which looked similar. Yes, it does seem to be 'flocked' and the pattern on it seems to be like an applique with stitching around it or possibly embroidered. (She bought a lot of her clothes at Sears, J.C.Penny's, etc. instead of Walmart. However, many of her robes were gifts from family who spent more on them.) You would have been able to find them in garage or estate sales in steady supply tho.
I am not seeing a cleft in her chin. I keep looking, but not seeing it yet.
If it is Tara C., I don't know there will be any way to verify it is her unless they send the photo to the lab in NM who did the original work on the other photos they thought to be Tara. With both her parents gone, I don't know how they will identify her and this photo could linger on forever unless they either find the perp or her body. (In all the reports I have read there wasn't a mention of other family members either.) Sad to say. They also need to send the photo to Polaroid (if it is a polaroid instant cam shot) to identify the year the paper was used etc.
It is difficult to tell what the OSBI here will do to find out who she is. I don't hold much hope out they are that interested being it was only on one tv station and finally in the local paper in Purcell, Oklahoma where the photo was found.
If you are talking about the black and white photo of the girl killed by Franklin Lloyd...I don't think it resembles her at all. I wish I had my photo editing capabilities I had on my other computer so I could show you about the nose etc and the similarities with the living pictures of Tara C. They are spot on.
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I agree with you SS. It is more likely, too. And, if she is dead as it seems from the photo she might be, I doubt her bf or husband killed her. It is not uncommon for serial killers to photo their victims just before or after the murder them and keep them as souvenirs and to relive their act for twisted pleasure. And, I think this is more likely. In any case I hope and pray that this case is solved, the perp faces justice, and she can be given back to her family.
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Totally agree with this being a serial. Just like Dennis Radar.
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Great find on the robe picture kgeaux! I think we are getting closer, but I think the design on the robe is more Greek than Middle Eastern. It appears to be something like the Acanthus Leaf pattern used in a lot of Greek and Italian designs, whether the item is furniture or clothing.
I am curious about what Docwho3 meant in his comment:
"I suspect the robe is a sort of distraction. According to the impressions on her skin, at the arm (as they appear when the image is enlarged and slightly edited for contrast and gamma corrections), the robe was not what she was wearing just before the pic was taken. I think the "robe" was a late addition, perhaps added for the pic."
What impressions on her arm are you seeing? I have said in an earlier post that I am surprised she is clothed at all. The clothing is obviously staged, and I have to assume that there is significance to the choice of clothing.
I am curious about what Docwho3 meant in his comment:
"I suspect the robe is a sort of distraction. According to the impressions on her skin, at the arm (as they appear when the image is enlarged and slightly edited for contrast and gamma corrections), the robe was not what she was wearing just before the pic was taken. I think the "robe" was a late addition, perhaps added for the pic."
What impressions on her arm are you seeing? I have said in an earlier post that I am surprised she is clothed at all. The clothing is obviously staged, and I have to assume that there is significance to the choice of clothing.
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http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=25
They removed the picture
They removed the picture
OMG! Do you think they have ID'd her?.......or maybe someone objected to the picture of the dead girl on their website! They tried to pass her off as injured.....! (ok, that sounded brash..anyway, if they want help identifying her they need to show the picture. Maybe, hopefully, they know who she is now.)
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I'm sure they never meant to put that picture on there. I think the retouched photo was supposed to be publically available, not the original.
Did anybody save it?
Did anybody run into this article?
http://www.purcellregister.com/article-display.asp?idnum=1048
It references one unidentified of possible indian decent. I don't know if that means native american or middle eastern...
Did anybody save it?
Did anybody run into this article?
http://www.purcellregister.com/article-display.asp?idnum=1048
It references one unidentified of possible indian decent. I don't know if that means native american or middle eastern...
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I have it saved under my favorites and it comes up as a .jpg. It still works for me. So I can't copy and paste, right? I thought anything listed under favorites was just a link to a website. So I am confused why I have the photo under my favorites still if it is no longer on their site. Anybody know?
I don't see a resemblance either. I do however think this janedoe looks alot like Jennifer Kesse with dark hair. Anyone else think they look similar?
I saved it (as I suspect others also did) on my hard drive and I have been working on various copies of it, looking for details less easily seen.
I saved it to my pictures and I still have it. Don't ask me why, btw don't ask me anything at all about computers cuz I dunno!! I think it is actually in this thread a few pages back. If anyone wants me to put it here let me know.
Thanks for the article. I hadn't seen it It is dated 3-4-2004. It said "American Indian" and she had red or reddish brown hair. No clothes, no jewely no ID. Kinda sounds like our girl. But I'm sure they've already checked to see if that picture matches THAT body. Wouldn't you think?
I still think the 'robe' is one from either WalMart or Kmart. And I also remember seeing the pattern of whatever it is that she's laying on -----but for the life of me I can't remember what it is. I remember the pink and the green and a floral pattern of some type. I'm thinking this pattern was on material 10 or more years ago.
Well the Sheriff's Dept removed the picture from that page but not their server. So if you find the direct URL in a previous post the untouched picture is still available...for now.
Very poor quality picture here but does anyone see an resemblance to Kelly Tilley, wanted by the McClain SO.
http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=7
http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=7
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I've seen that type robe and comforter too, or something similar, and remember thinking that it would look too Summery for me to enjoy year round for a few years.
Another observation about the photo (link on page 7). If the girl is laying on a smaller bed, she's not on it straight and her legs may be hanging over the side since she's at an angle. I also think that someone swept her hair back at the top and fixed the tendril hanging down in front of her ear. If she is dead, and that is a fly, someone had to clean her up some, and put her there.
I dont think its stupid. Just because the picture was dropped/ left in the US, doesnt mean thats where it was taken. The army comment is also interesting - Im an army brat and we had these mattresses when my family were posted to cyprus in the early 80's. Its not something that the forces would provide but my mum would have bought them probably in the naafi, i wonder if the stores on bases round the world stock the same stuff.....sorry, i know its really out there....but was just a thought....
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