GUILTY OK - Patrick Misner for raping 4yo girl, Sapulpa, 2012

[Shelby2]

I see someone has been on his fbook and removed his "wife's" name. You'd think they'd be smart enough to just shut it down :banghead:

DNA my butt!! I guess they can't help but deny...reality is gonna be harsh. JMO

I was surprised that both parents FB's were still public. But perhaps his 'wife' removed herself as his wife on her own FB. Then she would not show up as his wife on his wall.

I wonder how close the little girl is to being 5, or if she only just turned 4.

 

[Sooner Fan#1]

:steamed:

Oh, I believe he is a guilty filthy and have since the crime was reported. I am just sick about the little girl and the dog. I feel that he has probably been molesting this child for some time ... I have a precious 4-yr old granddaughter, and ... I am a dog lover. Four yr old girls can talk and give details ... was this mother ever listening
and giving this child any attention?

LE had to suspect this immediately! And, mom ... what is her role?


Rumors taken from Comments of the link below:

Commentor TruthorFiction identifies herself as his aunt and states the DNA results have already been received and did not match his. Obviously, he must have told her that.

A comment identified by Nichole states she is the boss and good friend of the mom and that mom was at work that a.m. Is this boss attempting to provide an alibi for the mom?

So, what motive would the commentor have who said, in my earlier post, that mom was at home during the 2 to 5 a.m. timeframe, and left for work at 6 a.m., which sounds like a neighbor in the trailer park watching that trailer. What's going on with this? A girlfriend, possible accomplice or a witness?

http://www.newson6.com/story/173756...est-in-assault-of-4-year-old-girl-last-friday

Sorry about my rant. I have been holding this in waiting on the DNA results!

:angel: Prayers for the little girl.

I'm with you, southernnana. I also have a 4 year old grandbaby and I thought it was the bf, but I didn't say any more since no one else thought it was him. It just infuriates me to no end about these women that have such poor judgement. I just don't understand it! :banghead:

 

[mysteriew]

If she was not taken out of the home through the broken glass, how did she recieve the cuts and contusions? Did he beat her too? Cut with a knife?

 

[AnaTeresa]

I'm with you, southernnana. I also have a 4 year old grandbaby and I thought it was the bf, but I didn't say any more since no one else thought it was him. It just infuriates me to no end about these women that have such poor judgement. I just don't understand it! :banghead:

I really don't think that's fair to say. This isn't mom's fault. With many of these predators, there are no warning signs.

 

[KrazyKatLadi]

If she was not taken out of the home through the broken glass, how did she recieve the cuts and contusions? Did he beat her too? Cut with a knife?

Maybe she was thrown up against the window?

 

[JeannaT]

I don't know what to make of this case anymore. It seems odd how the family is saying LE told them the DNA didn't match. How could the family become confused about something like that?

 

[norest4thewicked]

If she was not taken out of the home through the broken glass, how did she recieve the cuts and contusions? Did he beat her too? Cut with a knife?

This is my question as well. He obviously tried to stage the scene, so he probably cut her to make it look like she had gone through the window. What a sick man! I still question if he had been molesting her previously because, if so, what would be the reason to stage all of this?

The mom of the little girl is only 21, I think, so she is still a kid herself. So sad for all involved, except Tommy Braden.

 

[KrazyKatLadi]

I don't know what to make of this case anymore. It seems odd how the family is saying LE told them the DNA didn't match. How could the family become confused about something like that?

I think they're lying and LE hasn't told them anything. JMO

 

[mysteriew]

Bond has not been set but Braden is expected to go in front of a judge on Wednesday morning.
http://www.fox23.com/mostpopular/st...Creek-County-girl/KaFX5llZF061YosqTSugiQ.cspx

 

[JeannaT]

:steamed:

Oh, I believe he is a guilty filthy and have since the crime was reported. I am just sick about the little girl and the dog. I feel that he has probably been molesting this child for some time ... I have a precious 4-yr old granddaughter, and ... I am a dog lover. Four yr old girls can talk and give details ... was this mother ever listening
and giving this child any attention?

LE had to suspect this immediately! And, mom ... what is her role?


Rumors taken from Comments of the link below:

Commentor TruthorFiction identifies herself as his aunt and states the DNA results have already been received and did not match his. Obviously, he must have told her that.

A comment identified by Nichole states she is the boss and good friend of the mom and that mom was at work that a.m. Is this boss attempting to provide an alibi for the mom?

So, what motive would the commentor have who said, in my earlier post, that mom was at home during the 2 to 5 a.m. timeframe, and left for work at 6 a.m., which sounds like a neighbor in the trailer park watching that trailer. What's going on with this? A girlfriend, possible accomplice or a witness?

http://www.newson6.com/story/173756...est-in-assault-of-4-year-old-girl-last-friday

Sorry about my rant. I have been holding this in waiting on the DNA results!

:angel: Prayers for the little girl.

From this link, it appears LE has made the arrest based on their initial questions with his story and the girl's statements after surgery.

 

[mysteriew]

I think they're lying and LE hasn't told them anything. JMO

Yeah somehow I can't see an LE arresting him even knowing that the DNA wouldn't match. Think of all the paperwork, time in court, knowing that it is going to get thrown out. And then to tell the family about it before hand? No way!

 

[AnaTeresa]

Yeah somehow I can't see an LE arresting him even knowing that the DNA wouldn't match. Think of all the paperwork, time in court, knowing that it is going to get thrown out. And then to tell the family about it before hand? No way!

It could maybe happen - LE have messed up like this before. But it's rare. And with this case, I really could see them crossing their Ts and dotting their Is because of the young age of the victim. There's a very good chance she may not be considered competent to testify in court, so they have to build a strong case in case that would happen.

 

[ClaireNC]

I don't know what to make of this case anymore. It seems odd how the family is saying LE told them the DNA didn't match. How could the family become confused about something like that?

The probably told his family that LE said the DNA didn't match and the family believed him. The comments from the family certainly make me question their intelligence level.

 

[Shelby2]

If she was not taken out of the home through the broken glass, how did she recieve the cuts and contusions? Did he beat her too? Cut with a knife?

I think maybe he cut her with whatever he hurt the dog with? I wonder if they had found any weapons yet.
I thought I read that he was to be at work at 7, but wasn't the 911 call made sometime after that?

 

[Shelby2]

The probably told his family that LE said the DNA didn't match and the family believed him. The comments from the family certainly make me question their intelligence level.

I read that comment-she specifically said the DNA found 'inside' the little girl...how awful..

 

[mysteriew]

It could maybe happen - LE have messed up like this before. But it's rare. And with this case, I really could see them crossing their Ts and dotting their Is because of the young age of the victim. There's a very good chance she may not be considered competent to testify in court, so they have to build a strong case in case that would happen.

LOL I was being sarcastic. I cannot see any LE knowingly arresting someone in this case if they know the DNA doesn't match. No matter how much they might dislike someone.

 

[Bipolar Express]

There have been cases of child rape where very young victims point to the people they KNOW in the home because their little innocent minds cannot distinguish between two men who may look at all similar. While the assault is happening they may just assume it is the adult male in the home, not imagining it could be a stranger at all. I have heard of 2 cases like this where the men were eventually ruled out, in spite of sincere but wrong testimony by young girls.

I completely agree with this. If it was dark and she was attacked, her little mind would go towards the only person she knew to be in the house. She is not old enough to reason that someone else came inside the trailor at that hour when everyone should be asleep. They need more than this to convince me that he is infact guilty. Its not uncommon for LE to make a hasty arrest so the public wont panic that a perp is still on the loose. It has happened a lot.

 

[southernnana]

I'm with you, southernnana. I also have a 4 year old grandbaby and I thought it was the bf, but I didn't say any more since no one else thought it was him. It just infuriates me to no end about these women that have such poor judgement. I just don't understand it! :banghead:

:skip:

Hi Sooner ... it is so good to see you feeling better!

I believe others also felt it was the bf/stepdad, but were waiting for indications of what direction LE was going to take. Either they have DNA results and are not reporting it to media yet ... or, they have evidence to make an arrest.

I am also infuriated and sickened by women who expose their children to men who harm and murder their children. At one time, I volunteered for a period of time in an agency dedicated to prevention of child abuse and neglect ... as well as trained their volunteers to teach parenting classes to those seeking help. It was a very worthwhile agency with dedicated volunteers. Many of our "clients" were referred by the courts and state welfare system.

I became very disheartened by the continuous cycle of one new man after another in the lives of the women and children the agency was dedicated to helping, and the babies fathered by the flow of each new no-income low-life boyfriend ... the entire scenerio was an eye-opener for me. The boyfriends moved on either to jail or a new "woman" and the cycle started all over again. More new babies were continually added to the state welfare programs to be abused, fostered, and neglected. Enough said.

:banghead:

 

[katydid23]

I completely agree with this. If it was dark and she was attacked, her little mind would go towards the only person she knew to be in the house. She is not old enough to reason that someone else came inside the trailor at that hour when everyone should be asleep. They need more than this to convince me that he is infact guilty. Its not uncommon for LE to make a hasty arrest so the public wont panic that a perp is still on the loose. It has happened a lot.

I am not wanting to defend the boyfriend in any way, especially if he is the guilty one; But I really hope they have more than just the child's testimony. I know how hard it is for a young child to have clear recollections of what is actually going on. Been there and done that.

 

[hollyblue]

I think maybe he cut her with whatever he hurt the dog with? I wonder if they had found any weapons yet.
I thought I read that he was to be at work at 7, but wasn't the 911 call made sometime after that?

One of the articles said the 911 call was made shortly before 8 AM. I just wonder if he did stab her? I don't believe the 2-5AM story...it was his story. He surely waited for the mom to leave before he did this and maybe realizing the bleeding wouldn't stop and she had been hurt so bad..he couldn't just take her to the hospital because he's be nailed; so then he gutted the dachshund and maybe cut her, broke the window, etc to set it up. ?? What a S O B!!!!!...and why isn't this aggravated sexual sexual assault? If I was the mother, he'd be wishing for life in prison...you betcha.

Video with neighbor who saw the dog's body: http://www.fox23.com/mostpopular/st...Creek-County-girl/KaFX5llZF061YosqTSugiQ.cspx