GUILTY OK - Patrick Misner for raping 4yo girl, Sapulpa, 2012

  • #321
:dunno:

No formal charges yet is puzzling .... if they have blood or other evidence, and have decided to use the little girl's video testimony .... and have confidence in the DNA match, or a witness to suspicious activity at the residence/trailer in the early a.m. then maybe they have enough. We just don't know.

The decision on whether they have the evidence needed to move forward with the case will be up to the DA's office. I wouldn't think that office will take the risk of filing charges in a case without sufficient evidence to convict.

The rumors about the relationship would seem to be a problem for the boyfriend if he is charged.... and could account for the rage in the horror of what happened to the little girl. There is no justification for what was done to her .... None. :heartbeat:

That was my thought too, reading it - Um, oh no.
 
  • #322
He has been charged! Who said no formal charges yet???



Braden will likely be charged with one count of child sexual abuse. It carries a maximum sentence of life in prison.

Right now Braden is in the Creek County jail. No bail has been set yet. He is set to face a judge Wednesday morning
Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_...rape-of-creek-county-4-year-old#ixzz1sIue5GnJ

I also believe there will be more charges added to the 1 count of sexual abuse..it was so severe this child required surgery...




SAPULPA, Okla. —
Creek County investigators say they have arrested Tommy Braden for the rape of a four-year-old girl inside a mobile home south of Sapulpa.
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/arrest-made-attack-4-year-old-creek-county-girl/nMWX2/




SAPULPA - A Sapulpa man arrested for allegedly raping his girlfriend's four-year-old daughter is being held on $250,000 bond.
Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_...sault-suspect-held-on-250k-bond#ixzz1sIwqvtQM
 
  • #323
I am sorry but that link you highlighted says "will likely be charged" and not "has been charged." How long can they keep him in jail without charging him?
 
  • #324
I am sorry but that link you highlighted says "will likely be charged" and not "has been charged." How long can they keep him in jail without charging him?

State laws can differ, but I think usually a person can only be held for 72 hours before being charged/have a hearing.
 
  • #325
He has been charged! Who said no formal charges yet???




Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_...rape-of-creek-county-4-year-old#ixzz1sIue5GnJ

I also believe there will be more charges added to the 1 count of sexual abuse..it was so severe this child required surgery...




http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/arrest-made-attack-4-year-old-creek-county-girl/nMWX2/





Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_...sault-suspect-held-on-250k-bond#ixzz1sIwqvtQM

Police can arrest but only the DA can file the charges with the court. Most of the time charges will quickly follow the arrest. But not always.
 
  • #326
I am sorry but that link you highlighted says "will likely be charged" and not "has been charged." How long can they keep him in jail without charging him?

There was another case where someone was in jail forever - I'm drawing a blank - without being charged.

I think it was like about 2 weeks. I was surprised they could wait that long, but it sounds like they're waiting for some piece of evidence to be returned.

Interesting, out of 616 friends on facebook, he's only lost 4 of them after his arrest.
 
  • #327
They could be waiting on evidence. Or they could be waiting to go before a grand jury. Some states take most felonies before the grand jury.
 
  • #328
I believe 72 hours is the legal hold...by that time they have to charge him or let him go...

It appears he's been charged, held on $250,000 bond or he walks on a technicality...

the charges can always be upgraded with A Grand Jury...but I believe he's charged with rape of a child..for now...the severity of her injuries and her age will bring other charges...
 
  • #329
I believe 72 hours is the legal hold...by that time they have to charge him or let him go...

It appears he's been charged, held on $250,000 bond or he walks on a technicality...

the charges can always be upgraded with A Grand Jury...but I believe he's charged with rape of a child..for now...the severity of her injuries and her age will bring other charges...

Have you seen a new article that says he's been charged? I can't find a single thing, nothing at all new, not even new posts under articles.

The last news is that he hadn't been charged yet.
 
  • #330
Have you seen a new article that says he's been charged? I can't find a single thing, nothing at all new, not even new posts under articles.

The last news is that he hadn't been charged yet.

Yes I posted two upthread...both say he's being charged with rape of a child..being held on bond.

Posted on the previous page...
 
  • #331
Yes I posted two upthread...both say he's being charged with rape of a child..being held on bond.

Posted on the previous page...

If you read closely the articles say he is expected to be charged with child sexual abuse. They say he was arrested for raping a child but neither says he has been charged yet.
 
  • #332
I just don't know what to think about this case. It seems it could go either way. We've heard nothing solid yet as far as evidence and it doesn't appear that he has been formally charged, unless the information just wasn't released. Kind of odd that we aren't hearing any more on the case. It may be to protect the girl. Bless her heart.
 
  • #333
I just don't know what to think about this case. It seems it could go either way. We've heard nothing solid yet as far as evidence and it doesn't appear that he has been formally charged, unless the information just wasn't released. Kind of odd that we aren't hearing any more on the case. It may be to protect the girl. Bless her heart.

It seems to be the norm around here to report on a crime once or twice and then never hear a word again. In the past few months, there's been 3 attempted kidnappings near elementary schools and an attempted attack on a young girl walking a trail...we heard about it once on our local news. Even this big spree shooting has barely been reported on. Its really weird here. :what:
 
  • #334
I can only think they are waiting for some test results before formally charging him. It is safer to have him in custody while waiting.
 
  • #335
This case is new to me, so thanks to everyone for the reporting/posts/links.

I'm thankful, at least, that the bf was arrested so quickly. Now she doesn't have to be hurt by him any longer.

This case is so sickening. I know it's going to be one of those that sticks with me for a long time. Have we heard from mom at all? I tried reading everything but I didn't get to every post. I see his family is speaking out but is the victim's?
 
  • #336
This case is new to me, so thanks to everyone for the reporting/posts/links.

I'm thankful, at least, that the bf was arrested so quickly. Now she doesn't have to be hurt by him any longer.

This case is so sickening. I know it's going to be one of those that sticks with me for a long time. Have we heard from mom at all? I tried reading everything but I didn't get to every post. I see his family is speaking out but is the victim's?

Not a word, as far as I know, although I do believe a restraining order has been put into effect.
 
  • #337
This case is new to me, so thanks to everyone for the reporting/posts/links.

I'm thankful, at least, that the bf was arrested so quickly. Now she doesn't have to be hurt by him any longer.

This case is so sickening. I know it's going to be one of those that sticks with me for a long time. Have we heard from mom at all? I tried reading everything but I didn't get to every post. I see his family is speaking out but is the victim's?

We haven't heard anything about the Mom directly. Just that she hasn't been defending him, she's focused on her daughter.

However the child's family is defending him. Her mother's family, her biological father's family, as well as the suspects family.

Friends, neighbors, babysitters, coworkers, classmates, cousins...
Just about everyone you can think of has defended him somewhere at some point. Facebook, articles, other sites.

And... as mentioned above, he has lost only 3 friends out of more than 600 on facebook.
Generally in these cases we watch their friends list drop like a rock.

It is definitely a very odd situation. Odd enough for me to stop and wait for the evidence before I jump to conclusions. :twocents:
 
  • #338
We haven't heard anything about the Mom directly. Just that she hasn't been defending him, she's focused on her daughter.

However the child's family is defending him. Her mother's family, her biological father's family, as well as the suspects family.

Friends, neighbors, babysitters, coworkers, classmates, cousins...
Just about everyone you can think of has defended him somewhere at some point. Facebook, articles, other sites.

And... as mentioned above, he has lost only 3 friends out of more than 600 on facebook.
Generally in these cases we watch their friends list drop like a rock.

It is definitely a very odd situation. Odd enough for me to stop and wait for the evidence before I jump to conclusions. :twocents:

I am confused as well. Normally, in a case like this, if the stepdad was a sick pedophile, he would take his time and secretly abuse the child. And he could do so for years and never be caught. So it seems so odd that way this crime unfolded.

I am still on the fence, although I am kind of falling off the edge a bit.
 
  • #339
I am confused as well. Normally, in a case like this, if the stepdad was a sick pedophile, he would take his time and secretly abuse the child. And he could do so for years and never be caught. So it seems so odd that way this crime unfolded.

I am still on the fence, although I am kind of falling off the edge a bit.

And even if he didn't take his time and just lost it one night for whatever reason....
People who aren't even biologically related to him, putting their real names out there to defend the guy? :waitasec:

That just doesn't happen very much when they are accused of raping a 4 year old.
The attack itself is odd. The behavior after the fact though, is even more odd to me because it is more than one person.

It was kind of like in Brooke's case. Her Uncle was convicted of killing his mother in law and raping Brooke.
His wife continuously defended him and insisted he was innocent. He was convicted of killing HER mother and raping her niece...

Her defending him always made me stop and think. This case is doing the same thing. So many people defending him is weird.
Brooke's Uncle was innocent... his wife was right. It took years to prove it. So I always wait to make a judgement if I can. :twocents:
 
  • #340
Mother's Boyfriend Arrested In Assault Of 4-Year-Old Creek County Girl

Posted: Apr 10, 2012 1:18 PM EDT
Updated: Apr 10, 2012 9:36 PM EDT
Russell Hulstine, NewsOn6.com - email
Ashlei King, News On 6 - email

SAPULPA, Oklahoma - The Creek County Sheriff's Office says it has made an arrest in connection with the assault of a 4-year-old Creek County girl in her mobile home early Friday morning.

The suspect has been identified as 24-year-old Tommy Braden, the boyfriend of the girl's mother. He is in Creek County Jail and will go before a judge Wednesday.




http://www.newson6.com/story/173756...est-in-assault-of-4-year-old-girl-last-friday

He has been arrested....
 

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