OK OK - Peggy McGuire, 28, Eufaula, 16 Nov 2015

[PokeyMeansBusiness]

Why sue Peggy??!? Who has custody now? Grandparents? Is it because the grandparents want custody and Peggy is still considered alive according to the law? Timing couldn't be worse. Time, effort and money needs to be on finding her.

I thought the father has custody.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

He does. He is probably covering and planning so that Peggys relatives won't get custody or visitation, etc.

 

[SHASPE]

I saw that post too and commented to Miss Betty. She needs an attorney. She has rights as a grandparent, and the judge needs to be aware of both sides, since obviously Peggy won't be there. There was mention on the FB page as well about a small memorial outside her home "which is no longer occupied"-someone keeps taking stuff down. I get that if the home was in her name and is no longer being paid for by her, he would have to leave, but why mess with the memorial? That same post also mentioned, in the comments, that the boy has had to change schools because of the move. Poor child.

 

[PokeyMeansBusiness]

A new report on MSM mentions a custody battle between Peggy's grandmother and the child's father.

http://www.fox23.com/news/battle-emerges-over-missing-eufaula-womans-son/105859165

According to the article, Peggy's mother believes Peggy is deceased.

Davis filed documents on January 19th that say she believes her daughter is deceased, and that she has not seen the child since Peggy disappeared.

We also see the first mention of the father's name in MSM: Thomas Ryan McIntosh. The article suggests that Thomas could cause physical and emotional hard to the child.

The documents also claim that the grandson could suffer physical and emotional abuse at the hands of his father, Thomas Ryan McIntosh, without court-ordered visitation.

This situation is getting a bit ugly IMO

 

[Treelights]

A new report on MSM mentions a custody battle between Peggy's grandmother and the child's father.

http://www.fox23.com/news/battle-emerges-over-missing-eufaula-womans-son/105859165

According to the article, Peggy's mother believes Peggy is deceased.



We also see the first mention of the father's name in MSM: Thomas Ryan McIntosh. The article suggests that Thomas could cause physical and emotional hard to the child.



This situation is getting a bit ugly IMO

Thanks for the update!
It is sad!

So, the only time he is in MSM is because of the child?
Not because he is worried about Peggy?
Yes it sounds like it is getting ugly.

IMOO.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

The petition was filed in January and the media is just now paying attention?

 

[borndem]

Do we know much about the father? He sounds like a j*rk to me -- but I haven't seen too much about him -- and I could be all wrong.

I'm betting that the son misses his grandmother...

 

[JnRyan]

Do we know much about the father? He sounds like a j*rk to me -- but I haven't seen too much about him -- and I could be all wrong.

I'm betting that the son misses his grandmother...

This is definitely getting ugly. He's not mentioned as a suspect and LE has said almost nothing about him.

 

[Treelights]

From the "sounds" of it, it sounds like the father of the child believes that Peggy abandoned her child.
Peggy's mom, on the other hand said this is not the case.
To me, it is a he said she said type of thing going on.
What was occurring prior to Peggy going missing?
What would make the father of the child say this?
Sounds like there are personal issues going on. Before and After...
The poor child is caught in the middle. The child's mom has been missing
since November. The child used to have this grandmother in the picture, but the father
doesn't want that to happen.
It is sad to see a child used as a pawn. That's my opinion.
IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

Do we know much about the father? He sounds like a j*rk to me -- but I haven't seen too much about him -- and I could be all wrong.

I'm betting that the son misses his grandmother...

The family name has a rich history. Creek Indian. McIntosh County.
IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

My questions are:

Who was in Peggy's vehicle when Peggy dropped her kid off at school?

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/search-underway-missing-eufaula-woman/26942864

Where was Peggy living at that time?
I read that she and the father of their child were living together.

I also read that she was last seen at home.

Who is the mysterious man that dropped off her truck at that Ice House?

Was there jealousy? Was it an amicable relationship?

Is there dissent?

Why haven't LE said they have a POI? Do they?

Are there any suspects?


IMOO.

 

[Legally Bland]

I have a horrible feeling that Peggy spent her entire adult life in fear.

http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=046-&casekey=046-PO++0600032

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

10 years ago, the relationship was abusive. Then they had a son together and she may have felt too threatened to leave.

Unfortunately this happens too often, and too often the results are the same.

 

[PokeyMeansBusiness]

Unbelievable. One freaking night in jail! I have a dear friend who experienced something similar. The psycho was never going to let her go. A few of us got together and got help for her. Unfortunately LE* wasn't much help. We feared that they weren't going to "be able" to help much until he killed her. Fortunately, a family friend who was an ex Navy Seal, threatened the abuser until he was in tears, and we got her away.

I really hope that an arrest is imminent in Peggy's case, and LE is just putting a few things together. I'm extremely worried about her son and his safety. Domestic violence is SERIOUS!

*I'm in no way trying to bash law enforcement. I don't know how the laws work for domestic violence. I respect law enforcement, and what they do for us. Obviously some situations are complicated and it's really sad.

In America, you can always say no. I don't fully understand why she stuck around all this time. This should be a lesson for other females in similar situations. Don't be afraid to leave an abusive relationship.

 

[DatelineFan]

In America, you can always say no. I don't fully understand why she stuck around all this time. This should be a lesson for other females in similar situations. Don't be afraid to leave an abusive relationship.

Unfortunately, it's not always that simple. There is a lot of psychological manipulation involved with abuse. Most women in those situations have an extremely difficult time seeing the situation the way you or I might. My friend is one of the strongest women I know. But during that time, she had become meek and beaten down physically and mentally. Please don't judge these women.

Also, the abuser often makes serious threats when the victim attempts to leave. As I stated before, this is serious and requires outside help. Please do not victim blame.

Google the cycle of abuse

 

[PokeyMeansBusiness]

Unfortunately, it's not always that simple. There is a lot of psychological manipulation involved with abuse. Most women in those situations have an extremely difficult time seeing the situation the way you or I might. My friend is one of the strongest women I know. But during that time, she had become meek and beaten down physically and mentally. Please don't judge these women.

Also, the abuser often makes serious threats when the victim attempts to leave. As I stated before, this is serious and requires outside help. Please do not victim blame.

Google the cycle of abuse

If the abuser makes threats, victims should seek LE immediately. You can file domestic abuse charges and restraining orders. There are methods you can take to ensure safety. This is America. It's not Afghanistan. Women have rights and protection channels. They just need to use them.

Another point to make is that women have a choice with who they date. They don't have to date aggressive jerks, but many do and complain about abuse later. Most women know what they are signing up for.

I'm not saying these apply to your friend and I am by no means justifying what abusers do, but we should learn from these lessons and educate our young on potential abusive traps that can happen.

These above comments are of my opinion only.

 

[DatelineFan]

LE cannot always do anything helpful, if you see my second to last post. That's the whole point.

 

[Sincerely]

If the abuser makes threats, victims should seek LE immediately. You can file domestic abuse charges and restraining orders. There are methods you can take to ensure safety. This is America. It's not Afghanistan. Women have rights and protection channels. They just need to use them.

Another point to make is that women have a choice with who they date. They don't have to date aggressive jerks, but many do and complain about abuse later. Most women know what they are signing up for.

I'm not saying these apply to your friend and I am by no means justifying what abusers do, but we should learn from these lessons and educate our young on potential abusive traps that can happen.

These above comments are of my opinion only.

I was in an abusive relationship and it took me 8 years to get out. Although, while in it I felt trapped...with no money...no esteem...no car...and the list goes on (mind you I had all of that going into it). Anyway, looking back I see clearly the red flags I totally dismissed to satisfy my own need. Had I paid attention I would have seen he was no good for me. But, I didn't and I lived a horrible life. I accept responsibility for that. Now I can't believe I ever allowed it. It doesn't make what he did right...but I should have listened to my inner self. Anyway...I know it's off topic, but I had to respond.


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[DatelineFan]

I was in an abusive relationship and it took me 8 years to get out. Although, while in it I felt trapped...with no money...no esteem...no car...and the list goes on (mind you I had all of that going into it). Anyway, looking back I see clearly the red flags I totally dismissed to satisfy my own need. Had I paid attention I would have seen he was no good for me. But, I didn't and I lived a horrible life. I accept responsibility for that. Now I can't believe I ever allowed it. It doesn't make what he did right...but I should have listened to my inner self. Anyway...I know it's off topic, but I had to respond.


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Hey, good for you to finally get out! I'm lucky to not have experienced this myself, but I know others who have! It's impossible to try to educate people in a thread. I hope you don't let that get you down. You are a strong survivor!

 

[Eileen730]

If the abuser makes threats, victims should seek LE immediately. You can file domestic abuse charges and restraining orders. There are methods you can take to ensure safety. This is America. It's not Afghanistan. Women have rights and protection channels. They just need to use them.

Another point to make is that women have a choice with who they date. They don't have to date aggressive jerks, but many do and complain about abuse later. Most women know what they are signing up for.

I'm not saying these apply to your friend and I am by no means justifying what abusers do, but we should learn from these lessons and educate our young on potential abusive traps that can happen.

These above comments are of my opinion only.

Here is the thing!
sometimes the person u date turns into someone u don't know at all.
It is not all that easy for a married woman to just leave!
Has nothing at all to do with rights!

You are very wrong in your perspective I'm sorry!

All JMO