OK OK - Poteau, UncMale Fetus, UP112551, Found in a trash container at a sewer plant, Aug'23

[ProudSuggestion3528]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Unidentified Person
NamUs #UP112551
Male, Uncertain
Date Body Found: August 17, 2023
Location Found: Poteau, Oklahoma
Estimated Age Range: 0 Years

Case Numbers​

ME/C Case Number: 2305194

Demographics​

Biological Sex: Male
Race / Ethnicity: Uncertain
Estimated Age Group: Fetus
Estimated Year of Death: 2023
Height: 0' 7" (7 inches), Measured
Weight: Cannot Estimate

Circumstances​

Type: Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found: August 17, 2023
NamUs Case Created: December 3, 2023

Location Found Map​

Location: Poteau, Oklahoma
County: Le Flore County
Found On Tribal Land: Yes
Circumstances of Recovery: Located in a trash container at a sewer plant.

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Details of Recovery​

Inventory of Remains: All parts recovered
Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction

Physical Description​

Hair Color: Unknown
Eye Color: Unknown

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Distinctive Physical Features​

No Information Entered​

Clothing and Accessories​

No Information Entered​

0 Missing Persons Exclusions

 

[ProudSuggestion3528]

This was not an easy thing for me to post here. I think this is a case of someone experiencing a miscarriage. I am not a pregnancy expert (am a male) but I think this is a 16-20 week fetus maybe a little more or less. I wonder if it was a teen mom or maybe someone who worked at the plant. Could have also been an undocumented individual but who knows for sure. I guess a funeral was too expensive but I would think there would be better more peaceful places to bury a fetus.

When Can You Find Out the Sex of Your Baby?

Advances in prenatal testing mean that parents-to-be can find out their baby's sex earlier in pregnancy, though some still choose to be surprised after delivery.

www.parents.com

Apparently gender can be determined in as early as 10 weeks but most wait until 18-22 weeks.

 

[CooperDyl]

This was not an easy thing for me to post here. I think this is a case of someone experiencing a miscarriage. I am not a pregnancy expert (am a male) but I think this is a 16-20 week fetus maybe a little more or less. I wonder if it was a teen mom or maybe someone who worked at the plant. Could have also been an undocumented individual but who knows for sure. I guess a funeral was too expensive but I would think there would be better more peaceful places to bury a fetus.

When Can You Find Out the Sex of Your Baby?

Advances in prenatal testing mean that parents-to-be can find out their baby's sex earlier in pregnancy, though some still choose to be surprised after delivery.

www.parents.com

Apparently gender can be determined in as early as 10 weeks but most wait until 18-22 weeks.

Would be interested to know if the trash can was inside the sewer plant - as in somebody had access to the building, or if it was a publicly-accessible (legally or otherwise) trash can.

I suppose any employees with access would have been the first step for LE, hard to know if someone would even be ‘showing’ at that point as it all depends on the individual person.

I also notice the race is listed as ‘uncertain’, would this be because of the decomposed state of the remains, or is that the case during most early-mid pregnancies?

 

[Deathsgrandaughter]

I also notice the race is listed as ‘uncertain’, would this be because of the decomposed state of the remains, or is that the case during most early-mid pregnancies?

If you mean through skin colour, that starts to develop in the third trimester, although not fully realised until after birth, so all babies are born paler than they eventually become. So, decomposition might play a role, but in any case I think it would be too early to see; DNA should offer some clues though.

 

[CooperDyl]

If you mean through skin colour, that starts to develop in the third trimester, although not fully realised until after birth, so all babies are born paler than they eventually become. So, decomposition might play a role, but in any case I think it would be too early to see; DNA should offer some clues though.

Thanks for that info. The area is listed as tribal land - assuming there are employees of the sewerage company who aren’t belonging to the land DNA profiling might be a way to either rule them in or out, same for any locals. That’s if there’s no direct/family match. Although I’m sure LE is a few steps ahead of just thinking aloud like I am already.