OK OK - Stephen “Steve” Lee Murphy, last seen in Claremore sometime in 1976, not reported missing until July 2022

[azure]

I just realized I never posted my relatively useless update...
I spoke with the Detective on this case last week. He confirmed that fingerprints were run through all available databases with no hits. His name/DOB was also run with no results. They are trying to get records from SSA to see if there were any hits on his SSN since 1976. I questioned the May 1976 date of last contact in Namus versus the Military Records showing a November 22 1976 date of last contact. He expressed that he did not have full confidence in the military records. My impression from our conversation was that he felt Stephen was still alive living under an alias. I did a quick search and found the following article.
$50 for a full set of papers.
View attachment 429171

Does this mean you now know his SSN?

 

[megs1477]

Does this mean you now know his SSN?

No. We still have not been able to obtain his entire SSN

 

[buyerninety]

I'll note this to researchers as an avenue of enquiry;

CA - CA - Camp Pendleton, WhtFem UP62407, 16-25, skeleton remains found in Camp Pendleton, Jan'82

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) Two hikers located the skeletal remains.

www.websleuths.com

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Unidentified Person/NamUs #UP62407
It states that the skeletal remains, found in 1982,
were only partial.
It has occured that coroners, medical examiners have
incorrectly assessed remains as the incorrect sex when
they have had limited bones to make a determination
(i.e. in preDNA times, which is the case here).
megs1477 has checked NamUs and confirmed that
NamUs UP62407 is recorded as having no DNA.
@megs1477 , I forgot to ask - were there any dentals?

 

[megs1477]

I'll note this to researchers as an avenue of enquiry;

CA - CA - Camp Pendleton, WhtFem UP62407, 16-25, skeleton remains found in Camp Pendleton, Jan'82

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) Two hikers located the skeletal remains.

www.websleuths.com

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Unidentified Person/NamUs #UP62407
It states that the skeletal remains, found in 1982,
were only partial.
It has occured that coroners, medical examiners have
incorrectly assessed remains as the incorrect sex when
they have had limited bones to make a determination
(i.e. in preDNA times, which is the case here).
megs1477 has checked NamUs and confirmed that
NamUs UP62407 is recorded as having no DNA.
@megs1477 , I forgot to ask - were there any dentals?

I think NAMUS changed their policy again, because I am not able to see if DNA is available now.

 

[Snoangel26]

Can anyone help me understand what the highlighted number represents. Is it useful for anything

 

[Laughing]

No direct experienc, @Snoangel26 , but it should help the Defense Personnel Records Center find your Dad's record!

imho, the number means that indeed there is a file with your father's Marine Corp record.

Fingers crossed & praying for you!

 

[megs1477]

Can anyone help me understand what the highlighted number represents. Is it useful for anything

It wasn't on any of the responses I received

 

[Snoangel26]

It wasn't on any of the responses I received

I have requested records for him from any place I could think of. Even FBI.

 

[buyerninety]

Snoangel26, above asked; "Can anyone help me
understand what the highlighted number represents."

I don't know. I assume it's a catch-all identification
number for all records that the National Personnel
Records Center (NPRC) holds on a particular individual,
e.g. such as this individual;

FOIA randy rhodes navy

Eric Bradley made this request to Navy Personnel Command of the United States of America.

www.muckrock.com

P.S. You might like to skim these posts regarding
~1991 missing person Jason Dies, a naval officer out
of San Diego.
CA - CA - Jason Dies, 20, San Diego, 18 June 1991
The relative contacted the NCIS, which particular
(helpful?) NCIS agent is not stated in the posts.
I wonder if the NCIS might be helpful to you in
some way, for instance in the Camp Pendelton
unidentified person UP62407 I mentioned above,
they might prod the case manager (San Diego
County Mediacal Examiner's Office);
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
to advance in the queue any test for DNA of any
remains they may hold in that case (and perhaps
might arrange for Federal funding to expedite that).

Strictly speaking, I would have thought NCIS would
still retain a responsibility for or at least an interest
in any Navy or Marine Service Member who went
missing whilst still serving, such as Stephen Murphy.
Cheers

 

[Bagpus]

Can anyone help me understand what the highlighted number represents. Is it useful for anything

@Richard ?

 

[Snoangel26]

Snoangel26, above asked; "Can anyone help me
understand what the highlighted number represents."

I don't know. I assume it's a catch-all identification
number for all records that the National Personnel
Records Center (NPRC) holds on a particular individual,
e.g. such as this individual;

FOIA randy rhodes navy

Eric Bradley made this request to Navy Personnel Command of the United States of America.

www.muckrock.com

P.S. You might like to skim these posts regarding
~1991 missing person Jason Dies, a naval officer out
of San Diego.
CA - CA - Jason Dies, 20, San Diego, 18 June 1991
The relative contacted the NCIS, which particular
(helpful?) NCIS agent is not stated in the posts.
I wonder if the NCIS might be helpful to you in
some way, for instance in the Camp Pendelton
unidentified person UP62407 I mentioned above,
they might prod the case manager (San Diego
County Mediacal Examiner's Office);
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
to advance in the queue any test for DNA of any
remains they may hold in that case (and perhaps
might arrange for Federal funding to expedite that).

Strictly speaking, I would have thought NCIS would
still retain a responsibility for or at least an interest
in any Navy or Marine Service Member who went
missing whilst still serving, such as Stephen Murphy.
Cheers

Thank you. I'll look and see how to contact NCIS. I'll also look at the namus one.

 

[#JUSTICE4WILDER]

Fingers crossed this is "a mistake" made by the person who sent the email!

 

[Snoangel26]

How do I figure out if he is deceased if nothing shows up. Archives won't release his records unless they confirm he is deceased or they have his written permission. I've given them everything about him except SSN or service number. I just want to know what happened to him all those years ago. Thank you for your support, suggestions, and most importantly for listening.

 

[Stunned]

Fingers crossed this is "a mistake" made by the person who sent the email!

Maybe it wasn’t a mistake. Maybe they wanted her to have it?

 

[Snoangel26]

I requested his record again using the number I recieved. These are screenshots of the email I recieved. I believe I won't be getting anything that way. Any opinions. I look forward to your thoughts about these

 

[#JUSTICE4WILDER]

Maybe it wasn’t a mistake. Maybe they wanted her to have it?

Yes that's why I added the quote marks, as in finger quotes for a mistake!

 

[Bagpus]

How do I figure out if he is deceased if nothing shows up. Archives won't release his records unless they confirm he is deceased or they have his written permission. I've given them everything about him except SSN or service number. I just want to know what happened to him all those years ago. Thank you for your support, suggestions, and most importantly for listening.

That is mostly why I haven't did it. I believe they would look into it before signing off. But I do worry if he is alive it would mess up his life

Maybe it's time to start this process? My thoughts are that if it were found that someone were claiming benefits as him, they would have to either conclude that he wasn't dead (yippee!) or investigate someone for fraud?

 

[Snoangel26]

Maybe it's time to start this process? My thoughts are that if it were found that someone were claiming benefits as him, they would have to either conclude that he wasn't dead (yippee!) or investigate someone for fraud?

I'm going to find out how to go about it. Thank you. Time for new chapter to start.

 

[LauraAnne]

Won't his school records have his SSN? Since you know what school and years he attended, that would be a resource.

 

[Snoangel26]

Won't his school records have his SSN? Since you know what school and years he attended, that would be a resource.

I'll try that. Honestly I can't remember if I have or not.