Found Deceased Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, found dead, manhunt on for father, Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025 #2

TD murdered his 3 beautiful, innocent daughters in cold blood and he needs to be found, ASAP.

He had enough presence of mind to commit this heinous act and to continue evading the massive police and military search for several days in rough terrain. He is a threat to others.

IMO
 
TD murdered his 3 beautiful, innocent daughters in cold blood and he needs to be found, ASAP.

He had enough presence of mind to commit this heinous act and to continue evading the massive police and military search for several days in rough terrain. He is a threat to others.

IMO
Very true. All the psych stuff is an understanding of possibly where he might be at mentally/emotionally but it is not an excuse. It is an understanding only.

On an other note, I still am not convinced he is with the living. However, I have been wrong before.
 
Travis Decker sought mental health counseling 2 weeks before daughter murders
TD murdered his 3 beautiful, innocent daughters in cold blood and he needs to be found, ASAP.

He had enough presence of mind to commit this heinous act and to continue evading the massive police and military search for several days in rough terrain. He is a threat to others.

IMO
I tend to agree. I believe these murders were planned. His visiting the location the day prior, his searches about life and jobs in Canada, etc. I do not think this was a "snapped" scenario. JMO and I could very well be wrong.

At this point various articles have stated the following possible diagnoses for TD:

Borderline PD
NPD
PTSD
CPTSD

Have I missed any? I don't know how many truly apply to TD, maybe some, maybe none, maybe all?

But I do not believe this man had a psychotic break and killed his children. I don't think psychosis had anything to do with what he did.

He is most assuredly a threat to others, particularly now that he has murdered (thrice) he has literally nothing left to lose. I hope he can be captured without any further injury.

If he is never found we will always need to wonder, did he die out there? Did he make it across the border and now he's just over on Canada's side, a ticking time bomb ready to blow again?
 
We’ve found footprints and items of interest,” said Mike Morrison, Chelan County Sheriff. “We believe we’re closing in on his trail.”

RS&BM
... from the NYP's coverage of 6/11 presser we also know from Sheriff Mike Morrison that:
  • LE perceives the items of interest found could be from Mr. Decker.
  • LE feels pretty confident that the lone hiker they tracked could be him.
Yes, it was going in circles north of Wenatchee and just west of Cashmere. Now it looks like it is going a slight bit more west and south. I don’t think they really have a clue where he is. And, although they found evidence from some lone hiker, it doesn’t mean it was definitively TD.
RS&BM

Like everyone here, the families affected, and the community, I hope LE is indeed tracking down and surrounding TD. But like you @Snoop Sister I wonder what evidence LE has that JD is where they think he is. I am still troubled by the notion that JD may have exited the scene by other means.

Does anyone have published information about how LE knew JD went into the woods to begin with?

IMO.
 
Oh ok. If I recall correctly, in the press conference it was said that they spoke to someone in Canada, he was vague about it. Maybe check the press conference video posted a few times previously. But, I am sure Border Patrol is very aware.
Yes, it seems so from this NYP summary of Chelan County Sheriff Mike Morrison's statements during a press conference Wednesday, 6/11:

"Despite his survivalist skills, Decker’s time is running out... international, federal, state and local law enforcement are not going to give up until he has been captured."
 
Travis Decker sought mental health counseling 2 weeks before daughter murders

I tend to agree. I believe these murders were planned. His visiting the location the day prior, his searches about life and jobs in Canada, etc. I do not think this was a "snapped" scenario. JMO and I could very well be wrong.

At this point various articles have stated the following possible diagnoses for TD:

Borderline PD
NPD
PTSD
CPTSD

Have I missed any? I don't know how many truly apply to TD, maybe some, maybe none, maybe all?

But I do not believe this man had a psychotic break and killed his children. I don't think psychosis had anything to do with what he did.

He is most assuredly a threat to others, particularly now that he has murdered (thrice) he has literally nothing left to lose. I hope he can be captured without any further injury.

If he is never found we will always need to wonder, did he die out there? Did he make it across the border and now he's just over on Canada's side, a ticking time bomb ready to blow again?
Last night I made a list of the things that were known to me regarding TD from MSM and the court report as to whether it was a planned incident or a psychotic break. Some things were posted on both lists, but when it was completed, there were more on the planned side. Although, I am not totally convinced it was planned, it appears that way on paper. Imoo

However, one thing is clear to me, he has serious mental health issues and he is not in his right mind.
 
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Not everyone gets this level of training. Our military is ready for any fight no matter where it is so we have to have some trained for survival type situations. We were just fighting a mountain war in Afghanistan. It sounds to me like much of his training might have been after his miliary days. If he was practicing going off for months at a time and living off grid, that isn't really something the military teaches. It teaches what to do if you find yourself cutoff from your group, if you are separated from help, shot down, captured, etc. I don't recall any training where they go out and live off grid for a month or more. Seems he was doing that on his own maybe due to his mental issues and the increasing troubles he was having.
Maybe it would be wise to send a military survivalist instructor after him. If you go online, there are military survivalist ($) camps.
 
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This is the area around Lake Ingalls.

Solid blue, solid black, and dashed grey lines are trails. Dashed green line is the county line.

There are ways in and out of there, but you’re going to be burning a lot of calories.
 
Eloquently stated, @tlcya.

You know, it seems this discussion about how much our society should or should not do to protect people with serious mental health issues from harming themselves or others, and how frequently our society should alert the public about suspected abductions, and how much legal intervention is appropriate to mitigate current or prospective domestic violence, is all about risk management.

To protect peoples rights and freedoms, how much risk can a democratic society in western civilization tolerate where, in the end, we inevitably will miss protecting some of those who need it?

There are many cases here on WS that raise these deep seeded societal questions.
I am old enough to remember the old days where a person could involuntarily be put into a mental facility without evaluation. Changed in 1975 with O'Connor vs Donaldson. A person must be a danger to themselves or to others, and this must be legally shown. Before the murders, TD did not fit these categories. He spent time alone. No one LEGALLY suspected he could be dangerous.
 
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This is the area around Lake Ingalls.

Solid blue, solid black, and dashed grey lines are trails. Dashed green line is the county line.

There are ways in and out of there, but you’re going to be burning a lot of calories.

He has to be running low on food. Even if he had a backpack stocked and possibly broke into some cabins in the Ingalls Creek trailhead area to steal something to eat, he can't possibly have enough to keep going like this for weeks. I doubt he's catching small mammals or fish because that'd require cooking and a campfire would be hard to hide.
 
He has to be running low on food. Even if he had a backpack stocked and possibly broke into some cabins in the Ingalls Creek trailhead area to steal something to eat, he can't possibly have enough to keep going like this for weeks. I doubt he's catching small mammals or fish because that'd require cooking and a campfire would be hard to hide.
Exactly. I mapped his supposed route and he must be getting exhausted. Adrenaline will only get you so far.

10 miles a day in this terrain will wipe you out fast without the right amount of food and enough rest.

Plus, there are terrain traps everywhere. You have to know where you’re going or else you can run into serious trouble. The snow is melting out, collapsing snow bridges and slough avalanches are a risk.
 
I would be checking recyclying
Yes, it seems so from this DM summary of Chelan County Sheriff Mike Morrison's statements during a press conference Wednesday, 6/11: "Despite his survivalist skills, Decker’s time is running out... international, federal, state and local law enforcement are not going to give up until he has been captured." I presume "international" implies CAN is engaged.
Canada does not want him roaming around in their country and they and their RCMP also have a lot of pride in always getting the bad guy.
 
1 - This does not confirm that medication was actually prescribed though does it? Just that there was a belief that TD was not taking medication.
2. The Georgia Pastor - is this counselling for mental health illnesses (PTSD & BPD) or is it counselling more akin to mentoring/assisting with the situation TD finds himself in? I would suggest it is the latter rather than the former (unless of course, the Pastor holds a relevant qualification to provide thereapy for PTSD and/or BPD - again, there is no direct confirmation from the Pastor as to what this 'counselling' involved).
3. If there was a refusal to sign the documents, then IMO this is not a court ordered evaluation - as there is no sanction (e.g. visitation was not subject to TD undertaking either of those assessments). Again, if this was a major concern for WD, there would have been further changes to the parenting plan and there was not. It seems to me that the first sign of a red flag WD had, was when TD didn't return the girls as planned.

I'm standing by WDs statements atm. I believe that no one saw this coming (and in relation to FA's - people rarely see it beforehand). I guess we will find out more as time passes.
Agree, and there is so much we don't know.
 
Very true. All the psych stuff is an understanding of possibly where he might be at mentally/emotionally but it is not an excuse. It is an understanding only.

On an other note, I still am not convinced he is with the living. However, I have been wrong before.
No excuse at all, MOO people suffering from MH issues still make moral choices.
Choices at the same percentage as people without MH issues, with one notable exception, first episode of psychosis in paranoid schizophrenia.
 
Travis Decker sought mental health counseling 2 weeks before daughter murders

I tend to agree. I believe these murders were planned. His visiting the location the day prior, his searches about life and jobs in Canada, etc. I do not think this was a "snapped" scenario. JMO and I could very well be wrong.

At this point various articles have stated the following possible diagnoses for TD:

Borderline PD
NPD
PTSD
CPTSD

Have I missed any? I don't know how many truly apply to TD, maybe some, maybe none, maybe all?

But I do not believe this man had a psychotic break and killed his children. I don't think psychosis had anything to do with what he did.

He is most assuredly a threat to others, particularly now that he has murdered (thrice) he has literally nothing left to lose. I hope he can be captured without any further injury.

If he is never found we will always need to wonder, did he die out there? Did he make it across the border and now he's just over on Canada's side, a ticking time bomb ready to blow again?
Am am wondering is any of those diagnosis escalated to paranoia? I think paranoia might play into his psyche as well, but I may be wrong.

I still can't shake in that vide of him at the door he seems to act paranoid like "he's being watched".

I would like to know what his technology use was too in the last few months. Did he have a cell for communicating only or was he online a lot while homelesss?

Dare I say - was he listening to anything on YT or podcasts that play into 'the world is coming to end', ditch your consumerism life, anti-establishment or encouraging to live off grid kinda thing.

I have noticed there is an interesting target demographic for men online that really focus on some of this stuff (I had an ex-BF who was really into this stuff and it controlled his life). MOO, JMO

*edited for clarity, not knocking the prepper movement... I am meaning more the antisocial, loner types vulnerable to really believe a lot of what's being told online if that makes sense
 
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From what I know of mental health (not an expert) this is fairly typical of people suffering from many stories I've heard (some crimes here in Canada).

They start feeling better, then stop the meds/therapy. A vicious circle...
Yes, but medication for BPD isn’t that kind of medication, it’s usually therapy (techniques) to manage emotions that help those that have it.
 
Am am wondering is any of those diagnosis escalated to paranoia? I think paranoia might play into his psyche as well, but I may be wrong.

I still can't shake in that vide of him at the door he seems to act paranoid like "he's being watched".

I would like to know what his technology use was too in the last few months. Did he have a cell for communicating only or was he online a lot while homelesss?

Dare I say - was he listening to anything on YT or podcasts that play into 'the world is coming to end and prepare' or encouraging to live off grid kinda thing.

I have noticed there is an interesting target demographic for men online that really focus on some of this stuff (I had an ex-BF who was really into this stuff and it controlled his life). MOO, JMO

LE would know by now if he was listening to podcasts or watching survival videos. From this press release, it sounds like his digital device footprint has given them some (hopefully valuable) information on his thinking.

"Our teams have written and executed several search warrants around the area and on electronic devices that belonged to Travis Decker. We have gathered new information which in turn has given us more leads to follow up on."

 
I wonder if TD thought the meds (science approach) weren't working and then resorted to spiritual approach for guidance?
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Usually science and spirituality work together, one doesn't replace the other for spiritual/religious people. IIRC, TD had lived in Georgia for awhile, and his Pastoral Counselor was from Georgia, so they may have struck up a positive relationship at that time that carried forward. Possibly a relationship of trust that TD was comfortable with, but unfortunately the Pastoral Counselor lived so far away.
 
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