One Tree Hill Connection

[Manny]

If the Pros are leaning on One Tree Hill for a model of the crime, they are leaning on a weak reed. Every 20 something in the world watches that show. Google searches also mean nothing. I am sure we all search for things that could be strung together and made into a motive for some criminal act.
Hope they don't waste their time on silly stuff like this...

 

[Indigo]

On 3/21 a search was made for "household + weapons." Can anyone read the google book identification number in the resulting URL? It looks to me like: id = OMJNJIOKPEC page 798--but I'm not sure. Anyone else like to take a crack at reading the book id? If we could figure it out, we could take a closer look at the book. TIA

 

[Indigo]

What I find really interesting about this list of google searches, is the items not highlighted by LE. For example on:

3/6- Hide+myspace and hide+blog. (Who's wanting to hide what?)

3/11-casey+anthony; casey+marie+anthony and colonial high school. (Casey researching herself, or Mom checking up on her?)

3/13-lost+numbers (How to explain in the future the missing nanny's number?)

And...two Saturdays in a row, 3/8 & 3/15 searches for fleas;natural+removal+of+fleas. No apparent follow-up for "natural solutions".
The 3/17 choloraform; cholorform;acetone;peroxide;etc. Surely, these were not "natural" solutions to a flea problem...(Mom (CA) briefly was looking for flea solutions, two Saturdays in a row. Forgot info gleened the first search?)

These searches were all from the shared family home computer. Can it be determined which family user was online. For example, I have a dial-up with aol. In order to get to the internet, I have to log on with my aol pw. So that should be traceable. What about those who are always online with a high-speed cable modem? How does that work?

IIRC, there was one URL for Capstar, (sp?) which appears to be a natural product used for killing fleas. Why anyone would jump straight from Capstar(safe for pets and humans) to chloroform (not a safe alternative) is puzzling to say the least.

 

[beckaroozie]

IIRC, there was one URL for Capstar, (sp?) which appears to be a natural product used for killing fleas. Why anyone would jump straight from Capstar(safe for pets and humans) to chloroform (not a safe alternative) is puzzling to say the least.

Maybe CA got frustrated trying to get rid of the fleas on her dogs and decided to kill them? <---just kidding. :crazy: She needs to remember if you 'sleep with dogs you get fleas'. Hahaha

 

[BobbieDoll]

The "One Tree Hill" episode "Hundreds" is season 5, episode 12. If you look at IMDB.com (The Internet Movie Database) for it

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1032104/ you can see a user summary of the plot of this episode.

And then look at the actress Torrey DeVitto that plays the nanny Carrie and click on her bio link and look at her photos, she's 24 years old, she's 5' 7 " tall. She looks like she could be hispanic and in some of her photos she has straight dark hair. She doesn't look like she would weigh 140 pounds though. But maybe Casey used some of this actress's physical characteristics to make up what Zanny the nanny looked like when she described her?

I wonder if Casey did google searches on this actress or if she googled IMDB or went to the IMDB web site?

LE should have printed out this actress's photo and put it in a line up for Casey to pick out Zanny. :bang:

 

[JBean]

The topic of this thread is one Tree Hill and it's possible value to the case. If you would like to discuss different searches, please bump those threads.
Please stay on topic.thanks
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72041&highlight=searches


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69288&highlight=forensics&page=7

 

[Intermezzo]

That's true but Casey's also said that woman isn't the one who took Caylee (of course we know that already!). I just think it's more than coincidental she had classmates with similar names that could've been the basis of her fictional character. MOO

Hi Panther
A few months ago I looked thru the colonial high alumini pages and many of the names Casey mentions are listed there. To me, it seems she combined first and last names of people she went to school with.
Someone, not sure if it was on this forum, posted that in the actual yearbook pages some of these names appear on the same yearbook page or close by where her own name/picture appeared.
The only name, that I remember, she didn't mix up was Jeffrey H.

 

[suspicious1]

LE should have printed out this actress's photo and put it in a line up for Casey to pick out Zanny. :bang:

That is so funny!

 

[SL_Zero]

when were the chloroform searches? this could have set the ball rolling... Caylee was getting in the way, and she saw this- and THEN searched for missing children, ways to kill people, etc.

Or, however, a more innocent explanation- I have ADHD, and if I look something up on the internet, a LOT of times I'll get distracted or super-involved and it will lead like dominos one thing to another, and often ends up someplace disturbing that I'd never have started with-

For example, I was looking up a Church by my home which led to looking at their childrens programs, then to their day care (which talked about storing breast milk), which led to looking up breast feeding, to lactation, to men's lactation (???? apparently its possible), to animals where males raise the young, back to birth, to natural at home births (I saw a video of a baby born into a pool at home), to celibacy, to monestaries, to the sisters of carmel convent...

...what? yeah, that's what I said too. one thing just leads to another- if anyone saw my google history they'd think i was crazy.

ANYWAY, Merry Christmas all!

ITA!!! :clap:

I also have ADHD and I do exactly the same thing!
I'll pop over to the comp to look something up quickly and HOURS later i'll be miles from what I was originally looking for, having waded through seventy degrees of my crazy wandering. If anyone every pawed through my internet travels I would come off like a complete maniac, not just someone naturally curious with NO attention span and a penchant for research.
:crazy: :crosseyed: :crazy: :Jumpie: :crazy: :crosseyed: :crazy:

I wonder, has anyone said KC has ADD/ADHD?:detective:

 

[JWG]

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Are you saying that LE has more searches from other Websites that have not been released?

Absolutely. The investigator's report says that all website visits were dumped into a Microsoft Excel file from which LE could do keyword searches. The only thing LE released were visits to Google in March.

Here is how I would investigate things if I were LE - or the defense.

First, I would search through all website visits for "suspicious" words or phrases. Let's say I run across the phrase "One Tree Hill" in a Google search on March 19.

Next I would look at all web visits for March 19, which may or may not include "One Tree Hill."

That would put the search into context. What led her to search for One Tree Hill? Where did she go afterward? How much time did she spend on a given page (this might indicate how important she found the information to be).

This would be very useful information to both the prosecution and defense.

I think one can infer that the website visits do nothing to bolster the prosecution's case by simply looking at who the defense has hired as experts on this case. We often hear of the "Million Dollar Dream Team," forgetting that one member of this team is very wet behind his ears and presumably relatively inexpensive - the computer (and cell phone) forensics expert.

Why would the defense hire someone with such a thin resume if the evidence itself were not so thin?

 

[SL_Zero]

I think one can infer that the website visits do nothing to bolster the prosecution's case by simply looking at who the defense has hired as experts on this case. We often hear of the "Million Dollar Dream Team," forgetting that one member of this team is very wet behind his ears and presumably relatively inexpensive - the computer (and cell phone) forensics expert.

Why would the defense hire someone with such a thin resume if the evidence itself were not so thin?

clipped by me for length.

no offense, but as a longtime computer tech myself and having a colleague who IS a computer forensics expert... i can safely say that NO for.exp. is EVER inexpensive. their work is grueling, intricate, and extremely time consuming.... thus pricey.

also, for.exp.'s work with highly classified/sensitive issues a lot of the time.. the kind of thing that CAN'T go on a resume. generally a for.exp. worth his salt would have a very vague or thin resume out of consideration for the privacy of his/her clients.

has this for.exp.'s resume or list of experience been made public? i would love to see it.

 

[JWG]

clipped by me for length.

no offense, but as a longtime computer tech myself and having a colleague who IS a computer forensics expert... i can safely say that NO for.exp. is EVER inexpensive. their work is grueling, intricate, and extremely time consuming.... thus pricey.

also, for.exp.'s work with highly classified/sensitive issues a lot of the time.. the kind of thing that CAN'T go on a resume. generally a for.exp. worth his salt would have a very vague or thin resume out of consideration for the privacy of his/her clients.

has this for.exp.'s resume or list of experience been made public? i would love to see it.

Visit his website and Google his name. There are thousands more experienced than he is. I know I am as qualified...just have not gotten into the business.

And, I said "relatively expensive." The term "expensive" means different things to different people.

Net is, they did not pull out all the stops on computer forensics because they did not need to.

 

[SL_Zero]

Visit his website and Google his name. There are thousands more experienced than he is. I know I am as qualified...just have not gotten into the business.

And, I said "relatively expensive." The term "expensive" means different things to different people.

Net is, they did not pull out all the stops on computer forensics because they did not need to.

:shrug: maybe they have enough evidence w/o computer.
wouldn't that be nice?

 

[passionflower]

Kimbery G for geraldo is on again with this story of this kidnapping, showing clips of movie.......

 

[faefrost]

Stupid question, and as much as I hate doing it, one to play devils advocate a little bit. I am just always very leery of computer searches when looked at without some clear physical event that coroborates their value.

Key question. Do the Anthony's have a DVR? If so was "One Tree Hill" a show someone (presumably KC) watched and followed? If so her searching the hundredth episode may push anything concerning the episode outside the realm or reasonable doubt. Yes she could have gotten an idea from it, but it is a little shaky.

Whereas if she had no history of watching the show, and she repeatedly watched just the scenes involving the Nanny kidnap... and some elements of that specific script seem to match her Zanny the Nanny story, it has much more power. So corroborate her google searches with Youtube viewing paterns and her household DVR. Then you may have a nice piece of evidence leading to premeditation. But the search alone isn't quite it.

 

[JWG]

Stupid question, and as much as I hate doing it, one to play devils advocate a little bit. I am just always very leery of computer searches when looked at without some clear physical event that coroborates their value.

Key question. Do the Anthony's have a DVR? If so was "One Tree Hill" a show someone (presumably KC) watched and followed? If so her searching the hundredth episode may push anything concerning the episode outside the realm or reasonable doubt. Yes she could have gotten an idea from it, but it is a little shaky.

Whereas if she had no history of watching the show, and she repeatedly watched just the scenes involving the Nanny kidnap... and some elements of that specific script seem to match her Zanny the Nanny story, it has much more power. So corroborate her google searches with Youtube viewing paterns and her household DVR. Then you may have a nice piece of evidence leading to premeditation. But the search alone isn't quite it.

I find it plausible that she got the idea from this episode, but I don't think she researched it. There were (are) many websites dedicated to speculation around the 100th episode. If she were a fan, her visiting such a website would not be unusual. I think what may have happened is that while riding with CA on July 15 back to the Anthony home, she recalled the episode in her mind and at that time in that place came up with the Zanny kidnapping story. More or less spur of the moment.

(OK, I know I still need to explain that pesky June 17 visit to Sawgrass by ZFG, looking for an apartment)

 

[MomofBoys]

Key question. Do the Anthony's have a DVR? If so was "One Tree Hill" a show someone (presumably KC) watched and followed? If so her searching the hundredth episode may push anything concerning the episode outside the realm or reasonable doubt. Yes she could have gotten an idea from it, but it is a little shaky.

Same thing with "lost numbers."

Does she mean the significant numbers from Lost? 4 8 15 16 23 42?

Or is she researching plausible excuses for losing someone's number, as came into play early in the investigation?

She's a little late in the game to be researching the numbers in the show, but maybe she was just catching up.

I'd like to jump on the One Tree Hill train, but unless names matched, or whatever, I just can't find a link that would be the clincher. Good idea about looking at the family DVR.

 

[JaneInOz]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473449,00.html

 

[itsreenw]

Has anyone seen this page?
http://www.spock.com/q/^casey-anthony^

If you click on "in a relationship" it links to an actor on One Tree Hill

 

[JBean]

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