Opinion Piece: Casey Out in 3 Years!

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  • #81
With respect, it is exceedingly rare.We have entire threads on it. You may very well have duct tape, you may even have Henkle duct tape, but I doubt very, very seriously you have this ( no longer manufactured ) specific, special strength duct tape made by their company and sold in Ohio ( where the Anthony's moved from ) and that was never EVER sold in Florida. Go on to the search button and type in duct tape, you can read the threads and the actual reports, they are voluminous.

What I really wanted to tell you is of course you are welcome here. All day long. It is valuable to have folks bring up their concerns , it gives the prosecutors an idea of what potential jurors may question. Of course you are welcome here. The only thing I have ever seen that was unwelcome here was vile, unsubstantiated slamming, disparaging of someone with no proof whatsoever, and someone threatening one of our members. Just to have a different opinion, even if it is colorful.....that is what we want, we are here to discuss, not to preach to the choir. Big Texas smile from me to you!!!:Welcome-12-june::Welcome-12-june::Welcome-12-june:

Actually, It is my understanding from documents dump (will post the link when I find it) that the tape was made in Ohio but WAS sold in Florida at Lowes and Ace Hardware. One within a few miles of A's home. Keep in mind the tape was only made over a two year period if I am correct and it was during the years when Anthonys lived in Florida. They moved from Ohio when KC was 3.
 
  • #82
BBM...thats one of many things that bothers me...it is not rare, and can be found here in my garage!

dont mean to be a pain...just dialog/discussion. I have lurked for a long time, wanting to get in on some of this, now I am probably not welcome I would imagine. but for the sake of dialog, again, I dont see it...I can doubt everything I have heard thus far.

BBM: Be careful 6stringer....you'll be next under the Anthony Bus.....

and welcome to WS! Opposing points of view are welcome here..:croc:
 
  • #83
Here is the link on the discussion about the tape. It is not as rare as the SA would e like.Also included in the post is the link from the doc dumps. I hope I am wrong.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4928437#post4928437"]Casey Anthony Legal Defense Strategies #2 - Page 11 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
 
  • #84
Thank you Paintr for expressing exactly how I feel! I too am uneasy. Do I think she will get off completely? No, I don't. I do feel that there is something out there just beyond the horizon that might, just might, turn this case on it's ear. When I read posts like the one from "The World According' up thread just a bit, I start to breathe a little easier.

No matter what people think of him, CM is a lawyer with years and years of experience and I can't help wondering, like you, what he saw or what he thought of that made him take on this case - especially after the coments he made when he was just a 'talking head'.

Bolding by me.....

But, if the defense has something, anything, don't you think they would want to use that now to get their client out of jail? Why wait and let her sit in jail if you have your ace in the hole? If they had something that would help Casey, then why keep delaying? I don't think they have anything. The only thing the defense can do is put off the inevitable by delaying the trial. That at least keeps her in jail instead of prison.
 
  • #85
Maybe Casey and the clan just don't want to get jobs yet???
 
  • #86
Unfortunately I have to agree with this. I just can't see KC getting the DP without knowing/proving how Caylee died and that it was intentional. I don't see a jury (a jury not made of WS's) giving the DP when/if Caylee's death gets spun as being an accident, KC panicked, yada, yada, yada.

Scott Peterson got the DP without knowing how Lacey died.
 
  • #87
Okay, were you ticked off when you wrote this part? It is so funny, but true. I never put it all together quite that way. Too funny!

And I agree, the State is not going to hand out a 3 year sentence (plea deal) after all the energy invested in this one case.

I agree with you 100%. The prosecution offered KC 5 years for the check fraud case. Does anybody think murdering a child deserves anything less than LWOP?
 
  • #88
I think it's laughable. Controversy sells papers, that's why they write these articles. Circulation must be slow. His article belongs in the same section as the story about Sharon Osbourne removing her breast implants to give as paper weights to Ozzie. Good for a smirk or two, but not of any consequence.

CM has started the case with a severe credibility deficit- he has been very vocal in press interviews in Orlando, of his opinion of KC's guilt.. Now someone thinks he is going to appear like the Lone Ranger ( with Tonto) and rescue her from the dastardly SA. Nah

CM is a multi millionaire who could care less if he loses this case. This case is fun and games for him. That in itself should scare KC to death. I wouldn't want an attorney who took my case for fun. CM came out of retirement to join this team. When you think about the word "retirement" it usually means your tired of working, and your ready to enjoy your golden years. I personally would want an attorney who still looked forward to going to work. JMO
 
  • #89
In the trunk:

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7) hair belonging to Caylee with decomposition at proximal root

At crime scene:
1) Winnie the Pooh blanket (CA admits blanket is missing from Caylee’s room)
2) Whitney laundry bag (CA and GA admit theirs is missing)
3) Black trash bags with yellow ties like the ones Cindy gave investigators
4) Henkel duct tape – same brand and type found in home

Behavior evidence:
1) Lieing
2) Happy behavior- Dancing/ drinking/ partying /shopping
3) Hiding from family
4) Uncooperative in helping find daughter

If an accident:

What loving mother would tape up their baby’s face with duct tape to cover an accident? What loving mother would throw away their baby like trash? What loving mother would not care that a tropical storm is coming through and their baby’s remains are being ravaged by the elements? What loving mother would not worry or care about their baby’s remains being torn apart by animals? What loving mother would not care that their baby’s bones are being chewed on by animals? What loving mother would know all this is happening to their baby and then turn around and enter a Hot Body Contest? What loving mother would not feel guilt that under their care a child had expired and instead rent a movie about an abducted person with duct tape across their mouth … just a few hours after it had happened?

There is plenty against the accused and she ain’t walkin’...

No amount of sneezing on Casey's part will blow away all that is against her...

Excellent post! The only thing I would add under behavior evidence is:

5) Getting the tattoo that says 'a beautiful life'

Who would get a tattoo like that when your child missing?!

Harmony---you hit the nail on the head. No mother would act the way she did if it was an accident. Casey acted just like a murderer would act--happy that she got rid of the person she wanted dead.

Dells, I agree. The tattoo is way over the top. We've seen the videos of her happily shopping at Target for meaningless junk (sunglasses, lingerie, beer, etc). We've seen the video of her at the bank stealing Amy's money. We've seen the party pictures of her grinning from ear to ear. We've seen the picture of Casey and Lee high fiving each other while Caylee's body lay rotting in a swampy, snake infested dump site. We've read her text messages planning the next party, the next outing, the next whatever. What is she doing in jail---planning her next big party (the RV trip and vacations). This is a woman happy that her daughter is dead and gone.

On a more gruesome note, what mother would dress up her child's face in duct tape and heart sticker if it was an accident. That would mean she had to sit face to face with her corpse as she tore each piece off the roll and slapped it on her face. If this had been an accident, no mother (no person for that matter) would be able to sit there and plaster duct tape over a person's face who died from an accident.

This was no accident.

Three years, no way. She'll be lucky if she gets LWOP.

IMO
 
  • #90
Bolding by me.....

But, if the defense has something, anything, don't you think they would want to use that now to get their client out of jail? Why wait and let her sit in jail if you have your ace in the hole? If they had something that would help Casey, then why keep delaying? I don't think they have anything. The only thing the defense can do is put off the inevitable by delaying the trial. That at least keeps her in jail instead of prison.

I respectfully bolded a bit of your post...

Where would be the 'fun' in that, for Mr Mason? The defense team seem to want their moment 'in the sun' for various reasons. MOO
 
  • #91
oh, there is a whole lot more than that, we all know it. but look at what you just wrote! the only thing you "proved" is that she was negligent (ok, you didnt prove it, but this is EASILY proven), not all together there mentally, and that she is a horrible parent.

Im looking at this rationally, not emotionally. Personally I think life without the possibility of parole in a "hard labor" prison is what she deserves, but i could not convict at this point...hope that changes, because I strongly believe that if she walks she will kill again. there are obviously mental issues there, and if she walks than she got away with it once. scary...

So you are saying...that you could not convict...because this young woman was able to commit the "perfect murder"....whereby nobody in this family noticed this poor baby was missing for 31 days....thereby allowing all proof of her death to sit unnoticed in a garbage bag in the woods for 6 months...rendering all "provable" forensics a mess? The worst she is guilty of is negligence? Wow.... None of the other circumstantial evidence matters?
 
  • #92
Caught the first and last page of this thread so not sure if someone has already mentioned this, but...her being out in three years might mean she would be in more danger out here than in general population anyway. There is no way she gets off, and if she does, I am giving up my faith in the entire justice system. Have been reading you guys but not posting much. Good to be back!
 
  • #93
Thank you Paintr for expressing exactly how I feel! I too am uneasy. Do I think she will get off completely? No, I don't. I do feel that there is something out there just beyond the horizon that might, just might, turn this case on it's ear. When I read posts like the one from "The World According' up thread just a bit, I start to breathe a little easier.

No matter what people think of him, CM is a lawyer with years and years of experience and I can't help wondering, like you, what he saw or what he thought of that made him take on this case - especially after the coments he made when he was just a 'talking head'.
Or... he could just be taking it on for the pure challenge of an uphill battle to retire on...
 
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I could see Casey celebrating over an accident it would have saved her a lot of trouble. I would not expect a mother who wanted her child dead to be any less enthusiastic then if she killed her. Maybe she figured she would tell her mom in a day or two that way she could get out for a while I mean afterall she had plans with Tony. The funeral and all that would have brought her down killed her mood. Caylee is already dead I really cant do anything for her now. I'll get to it and then decomp sets in and shes screwed. etc etc etc the accident theory may come up. IMO
 
  • #96
Bolding by me.....

But, if the defense has something, anything, don't you think they would want to use that now to get their client out of jail? Why wait and let her sit in jail if you have your ace in the hole? If they had something that would help Casey, then why keep delaying? I don't think they have anything. The only thing the defense can do is put off the inevitable by delaying the trial. That at least keeps her in jail instead of prison.

Sorry, Dells, guess I didn't explain myself too well. No, I don't think there is evidence out there that would clear her. I think Mason feels that there is something he can exploit to cause reasonable doubt with the jury or use as leverage to get the State to agree to a plea deal. We have people here on WS who are not convinced the State has enough evidence. Maybe CM feels the same way and thinks he can twist what is there into a pretzel of a different shape. Ok, bad analogy but it is past my bedtime :)

Evidence to clear her - NO! CM thinking up ways to dispute the evidence that is out there, Yeah, I think he THINKS he can do that.
 
  • #97
Here's another article by Mike Thomas regarding Casey...this time as an editorial. Mike is one of the top columnists for the Sentinel and is often featured front page:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-04-19/news/miket19_1_pictures-of-casey-case-against-casey-lamar

From the above article:

"For historical reference, I refer you to Richard Adams, an evil psychopath who brutally beat and stomped his 6-year-old daughter Kayla to death. Lake prosecutors tried, but failed, to get a death sentence against him.

And Adams was much more loathsome than Casey. There was no doubt about his guilt. Kayla's body testified to the horrors of the crime."
 
  • #98
Here's another article by Mike Thomas regarding Casey...this time as an editorial. Mike is one of the top columnists for the Sentinel and is often featured front page:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com..._1_pictures-of-casey-case-against-casey-lamar

From the above article:

"For historical reference, I refer you to Richard Adams, an evil psychopath who brutally beat and stomped his 6-year-old daughter Kayla to death. Lake prosecutors tried, but failed, to get a death sentence against him.

And Adams was much more loathsome than Casey. There was no doubt about his guilt. Kayla's body testified to the horrors of the crime."
This guy is still forgetting that one doesn't need a cause of death to convict for 1st degree murder. He shows a clear worship of prominent defense attorneys and "expert witnesses" whose testimony can be skewed by whichever side is paying them! I'm not impressed:snooty:, and this case can in no way be compared to Andrea Yates, who actually was mentally ill.
Plus, he totally discounts Caylee's hair in the trunk and the computer searches of Chloroform and the duct tape on the remains- clear evidence of premeditation!
 
  • #99
Here's another article by Mike Thomas regarding Casey...this time as an editorial. Mike is one of the top columnists for the Sentinel and is often featured front page:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-04-19/news/miket19_1_pictures-of-casey-case-against-casey-lamar

From the above article:

"For historical reference, I refer you to Richard Adams, an evil psychopath who brutally beat and stomped his 6-year-old daughter Kayla to death. Lake prosecutors tried, but failed, to get a death sentence against him.

And Adams was much more loathsome than Casey. There was no doubt about his guilt. Kayla's body testified to the horrors of the crime."

Oh, wow, I had completely forgotten about that column until now. Well at least he takes potshots at JB too in that one :)
 
  • #100
even if she doesnt get the dp there's no way she walks in 3 years. heck, since the trial wont be over for atleast another year, thats basically time served.

ridiculous
 
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