Oprah to feature Kyron on Thursday 9/16

[eyes4crime]

Thank you so much for taking the time to recap. I sort of knew it would be short but it sounds like it was REALLY short.

The part I snipped is exactly what I had thought (heard locally)!! I would love to know which parts of her story changed or if it's the whole thing. ??

respectfully snipped from your excellent notes:

I don't usually watch Oprah at 9am (I'm at work) - this show was depressing and not a way I usually start my day. The interview with the family of the mom who killed her babies was excellent. moo

The interview with Desiree and Kaine was a disappointment to me. Oprah asked great questions but didn't give Desiree and Kaine time to answer - very different from the previous two interviews. Prob running out of time.

I'm sure I missed some questions and answers because they were changing all the time. Hope others will watch and give their accounting.

Interesting that Houze would not comment for the show. Houze and team are definitely remaining silent. moo mho

 

[ThoughtFox]

ThoughtFox, I'm confused about something. You said, in an earlier post "If she is innocent, then why didn't she make sure Kyron was safely back in class? "

I thought that the children weren't going directly to class, but were organized in groups to go look at the science fair? Am I mistaken?

Kat: Sorry, I just saw your question.

Terri has stated that the last time she saw Kyron he was heading back to his classroom.

From our own WS Timeline which is posted [ame=http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106874]HERE[/ame]

Friday, June 4, 2010:

8:45 a.m. Kyron Horman and his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, attend a science fair at Skyline Elementary School. He is seen walking down a hallway toward a classroom.

 

[eyes4crime]

BBM --

Eyes4crime - I'm extremely curious about your statement. Since we only have rumors, thoughts and opinions, what makes you think they "know who orchestrated the abduction"? And by stating Terri and Kaine know, are you saying Kaine knows and isn't saying anything? Do you think Kaine is involved?

Sorry Yellow - I misread your question. Desiree and Kaine continue to say that Terri orchestrated Kyron's disappearance and knows others involved. No matter where the interview, this idea resonates.

IF they are sure Terri is the perp, know exactly where she is staying, and is sure she knows all who are involved with missing Kyron, than IMO their pleas to find Kyron seem rather useless when appearing on Oprah or anywhere. Seems to me that by narrowing it down to one person only, Terri, they have backed themselves into a corner when asking for help. moo mho

I do have some ideas of who may be involved and what happened, just thoughts like everyone else. Nothing to back my thoughts up - so why mention them? moo mho

 

[kappy50]

Oprah: How was Desiree when Kyron wasn't on bus?
Kaine - Terri seemed upset, reaction was more about her and inconvenience of investigation on her

thanks eyes for your post and taking the time to do so...This answer Kaine has provided has me confused. Is it just me....?

 

[cluciano63]

Sounds like it was nothing new, just a larger audience? I had a feeling it would be a short segment...oh well, hope Desiree and Kaine feel better for having done it.

 

[debs]

Oprah: How was Desiree when Kyron wasn't on bus?
Kaine - Terri seemed upset, reaction was more about her and inconvenience of investigation on her

thanks eyes for your post and taking the time to do so...This answer Kaine has provided has me confused. Is it just me....?

Nope, you're not the only one.

 

[stmarysmead]

Sorry Yellow - I misread your question. Desiree and Kaine continue to say that Terri orchestrated Kyron's disappearance and knows others involved. No matter where the interview, this idea resonates.

IF they are sure Terri is the perp, know exactly where she is staying, and is sure she knows all who are involved with missing Kyron, than IMO their pleas to find Kyron seem rather useless when appearing on Oprah or anywhere. Seems to me that by narrowing it down to one person only, Terri, they have backed themselves into a corner when asking for help. moo mho

I do have some ideas of who may be involved and what happened, just thoughts like everyone else. Nothing to back my thoughts up - so why mention them? moo mho

What else are they to do? Knowing "whodunnit" is a hollow victory if you do not know where your child is. Certainly they cannot just shrug their shoulders and stop trying to develop new leads to FIND Kyron?

It is all about finding Kyron IMO.

Suppose you knew with certainty that I had taken a heirloom ring of yours. You would of course, want there to be sufficient evidence to make a case against me, see that I was punished. By repeating the story, you would hope others could add useful evidence about me personally to see that the punishment came to be.

But more than that, you want that ring back. You hope someone remembers seeing me wear it in a certain place, or talk about where I might sell jewelry..or discuss where I hide my favorite things.

As much as people can get fixated on sentimental objects or material things, it pales to parents who are convinced their child is out there...SOMEWHERE...ALIVE...undergoing God knows what. Maybe there's a chance, even a remote one, but they are on national TV...they HAVE to take it.

They believe the key to finding Kyron begins with unraveling everything about Terri.

Remember too, that while many here doubt Terri's guilt, for some reason, they do not. Their belief, IMO, must be rooted in something tremendously substantial...because I feel their love and desperation for Kyron's return trumps all to them.

This would not be the time to just blame Terri because of old grudges, not if finding Kyron is Goal #1. I do believe NOTHING else is more important to Kaine and Desiree than finding Kyron.

So their determined, unrelenting focus on Terri has great resonance with me in that it must stem from crucial details still withheld.

And so their repetition of this belief on Oprah makes good sense IMO.

 

[SurfieTX]

Oprah: How was Desiree when Kyron wasn't on bus?
Kaine - Terri seemed upset, reaction was more about her and inconvenience of investigation on her

thanks eyes for your post and taking the time to do so...This answer Kaine has provided has me confused. Is it just me....?

Why didn't Desiree answer the question? She was sitting right there, was she not? It seems to me that Kaine picked up on the fact that she meant Terri.

 

[grayjay]

Oprah: How was Desiree when Kyron wasn't on bus?
Kaine - Terri seemed upset, reaction was more about her and inconvenience of investigation on her

thanks eyes for your post and taking the time to do so...This answer Kaine has provided has me confused. Is it just me....?

I just figured Kaine thought Oprah had meant to ask about Terri, and it didn't even occur to him she meant Desiree. Like he is aware that interviewers can get mixed up. Also, with Desiree right there, why would she direct such a question about Desiree to Kaine anyway?

JMO

 

[eyes4crime]

Why didn't Desiree answer the question? She was sitting right there, was she not? It seems to me that Kaine picked up on the fact that she meant Terri.

MY MISTAKE! Sorry...Should have said Terri not Desiree. Kaine first said something about Terri lagging behind...went on to say something else, and finally talked about Terri being inconvenienced ... It was at this point, that I felt Oprah either got impatient or was time was running out.

She did mention Terri was NOT a poi or a suspect and no arrests. I wish we could edit our comments but for the sake of this interview, it was difficult to transcribe. I may have answers under the wrong question...the questions were asked before the previous answer could be verbalized.

Oprah is a master at interviewing - doesn't look to me like she and Kaine/Desiree bonded. OR she became impatient OR out of time. Kaine and Desiree gave the same kind of answers as on their other many interviews. Exactly the same. moo nmho

 

[debs]

I just figured Kaine thought Oprah had meant to ask about Terri, and it didn't even occur to him she meant Desiree. Like he is aware that interviewers can get mixed up. Also, with Desiree right there, why would she direct such a question about Desiree to Kaine anyway?

JMO

it sounds like a question made with both of them in front of her, and therefore it could have been directed at Desiree. I would have to watch the show to see how it is in context.

But either way, the question of how Terri was is always answered with "it was about her" with no identifiers to make us understand what he meant.

I would like his perspective on what that means.

 

[eyes4crime]

Oprah: How was Desiree when Kyron wasn't on bus?
Kaine - Terri seemed upset, reaction was more about her and inconvenience of investigation on her

thanks eyes for your post and taking the time to do so...This answer Kaine has provided has me confused. Is it just me....?

MY MISTAKE: SHOULD HAVE SAID....How was Terri when Kyron wasn't on the bus? Kaine first said 'upset' and went into a lagging behind, inconvenienced... etc. etc.

SORRY for the mistakes and thank goodness for all the great sleuthers here on WS - the inconsistencies/mistakes will always be questioned!!! :yes:

 

[debs]

MY MISTAKE: SHOULD HAVE SAID....How was Terri when Kyron wasn't on the bus? Kaine first said 'upset' and went into a lagging behind etc. etc.

SORRY for the mistakes and thank goodness for all the great sleuthers here on WS - the inconsistencies/mistakes will always be questioned!!! :yes:

Interesting. I recall, when once asked whether he'd walked with Terri to the bus stop, that he said he and baby K walked down, and Terri 'lagged behind' coming about a minute later.

 

[oh_gal]

I checked my tv programming, and it doesn't say anything about Kyron's case for today's episode. Is this still "on"?

 

[BeanE]

Sorry Yellow - I misread your question. Desiree and Kaine continue to say that Terri orchestrated Kyron's disappearance and knows others involved. No matter where the interview, this idea resonates.

IF they are sure Terri is the perp, know exactly where she is staying, and is sure she knows all who are involved with missing Kyron, than IMO their pleas to find Kyron seem rather useless when appearing on Oprah or anywhere. Seems to me that by narrowing it down to one person only, Terri, they have backed themselves into a corner when asking for help. moo mho

I do have some ideas of who may be involved and what happened, just thoughts like everyone else. Nothing to back my thoughts up - so why mention them? moo mho

I haven't read through the thread, but did Kaine or Desiree make a plea to whomever may be holding Kyron?

It may well be that LE has told them not to - the FBI profilers know when it's appropriate and when it may actually put the child in greater danger - but I was thinking with as large an audience as Oprah has, it may be a good time, if it is okay with LE, to make such a plea. Sort of bypass Terri, and appeal directly to whomever may be holding him.

In no way, of course, do I think Kaine or Desiree should try this if LE or the FBI has cautioned them not to. I'm just curious.

 

[eyes4crime]

What else are they to do? Knowing "whodunnit" is a hollow victory if you do not know where your child is. Certainly they cannot just shrug their shoulders and stop trying to develop new leads to FIND Kyron?

It is all about finding Kyron IMO.

Suppose you knew with certainty that I had taken a heirloom ring of yours. You would of course, want there to be sufficient evidence to make a case against me, see that I was punished. By repeating the story, you would hope others could add useful evidence about me personally to see that the punishment came to be.

But more than that, you want that ring back. You hope someone remembers seeing me wear it in a certain place, or talk about where I might sell jewelry..or discuss where I hide my favorite things.

As much as people can get fixated on sentimental objects or material things, it pales to parents who are convinced their child is out there...SOMEWHERE...ALIVE...undergoing God knows what. Maybe there's a chance, even a remote one, but they are on national TV...they HAVE to take it.

They believe the key to finding Kyron begins with unraveling everything about Terri.

Remember too, that while many here doubt Terri's guilt, for some reason, they do not. Their belief, IMO, must be rooted in something tremendously substantial...because I feel their love and desperation for Kyron's return trumps all to them.

This would not be the time to just blame Terri because of old grudges, not if finding Kyron is Goal #1. I do believe NOTHING else is more important to Kaine and Desiree than finding Kyron.

So their determined, unrelenting focus on Terri has great resonance with me in that it must stem from crucial details still withheld.

And so their repetition of this belief on Oprah makes good sense IMO.

BBM

I've followed many cases here on WS where the loved ones claim their child has run away or give any scenario that keeps their child alive. Loved ones have to do what gives them hope - it's what loved ones have to do, but we here at WS don't!

I question Terri's guilt on the basis there is no evidence, no arrests, no naming of her as POI. I don't put Terri right up there with Al Capone, the master or organized crime. I don't idealize LE and am certainly aware they are human and make mistakes. I"m not a loved one who needs to keep Kyron alive - I don't need to focus on Terri to serve my comfort level.

I will say this one last time: Given all the high profile opportunities Kaine and Desiree have been given to yell out for Kyron, their resolution to finding Kyron has always been the same...ask Terri. What's the public to do with that kind of suggestion. Most of us aren't in the position to question or ask Terri.

Interviewers aren't in the position to keep questioning that kind of accusation because it focuses on a person not yet named a POI or a suspect. People on the air have lawsuits to be concerned about - and Oprah certainly knows about people using her show to push an agenda. I think it gets uncomfortable for the interviewer, the audience, and eventually, people stop watching. moo mhoo

I'm wishing more than anything to find Kyron. What's Portland going to do with the next missing child - how can they explain to that parent there isn't a million dollars to spend? Are the tax payers in Oregon/Portland willing to increase their taxes for finding Kyron and other missing children.? moo mho

 

[BeanE]

Wait. Didn't Kaine previously say the lagging was before going to the bus as debs said? That he took the baby and started walking toward the bus stop and Terri caught up to them?

And that as soon as the bus driver said Kyron hadn't been in school all day, they both took off running to the school? Then he clarified that they both took off running to the car to drive to the school?

Did he mean that now he is saying that Terri lagged after the bus driver said Kyron hadn't been in school all day?

I know, I know. I should just wait the hour till it comes on here.

 

[eyes4crime]

I haven't read through the thread, but did Kaine or Desiree make a plea to whomever may be holding Kyron?

It may well be that LE has told them not to - the FBI profilers know when it's appropriate and when it may actually put the child in greater danger - but I was thinking with as large an audience as Oprah has, it may be a good time, if it is okay with LE, to make such a plea. Sort of bypass Terri, and appeal directly to whomever may be holding him.

In no way, of course, do I think Kaine or Desiree should try this if LE or the FBI has cautioned them not to. I'm just curious.

Hi BeanE - I made this comment before the Oprah show.

Pretty sure there was a plea to Terri to tell what she knows about Kyron. Didn't get parts of the interview because of the interruption of answers. Whatever was said, it wasn't new because I was hoping and waiting. moo mhoo

It could very well be that Kaine and Desiree were asked not to discuss certain areas of the investigation. But if that's true, it's been since the very beginning because their responses to questions have not varied...not that I can see.

 

[Donjeta]

I seem to remember that Kaine has said that Terri stayed behind before. She lagged behind on the way to the bus stop but once they saw that Kyron wasn't on the bus he started to hurry in order to get to his car and to the school and Terri stayed to talk with the bus driver some more. (Please don't ask me for a link because I don't have the faintest idea where it was.)

 

[BeanE]

Kaine also characterized when he first suspected something was amiss with his wife Terri Moulton Horman. It was the day she first flunked a polygraph exam.

"She would change her story daily, if not more than that," Kaine told Oprah. "Every time you talked to her, it was a little bit different about what happened that day."

http://www.nwcn.com/news/Kyron-Horm...m-would-change-her-story-daily-103071974.html

Didn't Kaine say previously he was completely blindsided, and had no suspicions until LE talked to him June 25/26?

I thought it was Tony and Desiree (Dateline or Nightline) who first became suspicious at the first poly.