OR OR - Eugene, WhtMale Pre60, UP115144, recon, Found hanging from Knickerbocker bike bridge, Dec'23

[ProudSuggestion3528]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) - Reconstruction available
NamUs Case# UP115144
UID White Male
Eugene, OR

Case Numbers​

ME/C Case Number: 231222-713

Demographics​

Biological Sex: Male
Race / Ethnicity: White / Caucasian
Estimated Age Group: Adult - Pre 60
Height: 5' 8"-5' 10"(68-70 inches) , Estimated
Weight: 180 lbs, Measured

Circumstances​

Type: Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found: December 21, 2023
NamUs Case Created: January 23, 2024

Location Found Map​

Location: Eugene, Oregon 97401
County: Lane County
Found On Tribal Land: No
Circumstances of Recovery: On December 21, 2023 the body of an unknown male was discovered hanging from the Knickerbocker bicycle bridge over the Willamette River in Eugene, Oregon. He had been deceased for a short period of time. He had no identification and no personal effects for identification.

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Details of Recovery​

Condition of Remains: Recognizable face

Physical Description​

Hair Color: Gray or Partially Gray
Eye Color (L): Blue
Eye Color (R): Blue

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Distinctive Physical Features​

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Clothing and Accessories​

No Information Entered​

 

[ProudSuggestion3528]

0 Ruleouts (so far)

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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What about Nicholas Dale Antone? He seems to fit the profile (blue eyes, height and age within parameters of the listing). Was last seen in Springfield which is a very short distance from Eugene? I also believe that this gentleman could have also been homeless or a transient and not reported missing.

 

[SDMABEL]

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The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

What about Nicholas Dale Antone? He seems to fit the profile (blue eyes, height and age within parameters of the listing). Was last seen in Springfield which is a very short distance from Eugene? I also believe that this gentleman could have also been homeless or a transient and not reported missing.

A lot of similarities here ! both appearance wise , but stats too.
Would defo be worth reporting ?

 

[Hochman]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) - Reconstruction available

from link

 

[feels_close_to_home]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Missing Person / NamUs #MP88043
Robert Dale Kobel, Male, White / Caucasian

"Extended disappearances (multiple weeks at a time) are not uncommon for Robert. He is listed as a transient but would occasionally stay with relatives." And it looks like big life changes were coming up for him.

 

[ProudSuggestion3528]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Missing Person / NamUs #MP88043
Robert Dale Kobel, Male, White / Caucasian
View attachment 478085
"Extended disappearances (multiple weeks at a time) are not uncommon for Robert. He is listed as a transient but would occasionally stay with relatives." And it looks like big life changes were coming up for him.

I actually thought of mentioning him but I felt that Nicholas was a slightly better match. I would submit this to LE or the ME.

 

[feels_close_to_home]

I actually thought of mentioning him but I felt that Nicholas was a slightly better match. I would submit this to LE or the ME.

How do I submit? I’ve just been calling numbers and they never seem to know what I’m talking about.

What’s the best way to submit?

 

[Lisbeth_S]

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I'm probably just dumb, but where do you find the ruleouts in NAMUS?
I can never find them

 

[azure]

I'm probably just dumb, but where do you find the ruleouts in NAMUS?
I can never find them

You have to become a member to see the rule out list.

 

[Lisbeth_S]

You have to become a member to see the rule out list.

Ooooh thank you, that's the missing piece of the puzzle

 

[bombardier]

How do I submit? I’ve just been calling numbers and they never seem to know what I’m talking about.

What’s the best way to submit?

I've submitted multiple potential IDs and its always kind of a frustrating experience. At the very least, e-mail the namus regional specialistic under the 'Contact' tab (which is Jessica Hager for both men); their job is to evaluate if the match is possible, and if so, pass on information to LE. However, they will only reply back to you with an automatic reply and not keep you in the loop, which can be kind of annoying. You could also contact the Medical Examiner handling the UID - they will likely be more interested in your tip than LE. I prefer using e-mail over their phone number; the phone number will likely go through to a confused receptionist who might blow you off, but the email can be easily forwarded to the right staff member. Lane County's MEO email is [email protected] and the person in charge is Kat Hannon (I cannot find her email, but you can politely request that the email is forwarded to her). Make sure to include all relevant links, and the Agency case number in your e-mail.
Of course, no promises that the MEO's will keep you in the loop any better than the NamUS regional specialist will, but if I have an ID I'm really confident about I like to cross my t's and dot my i's by making sure the info reaches someone one way or another.

 

[Ladyotm]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Missing Person / NamUs #MP88043
Robert Dale Kobel, Male, White / Caucasian
View attachment 478085
"Extended disappearances (multiple weeks at a time) are not uncommon for Robert. He is listed as a transient but would occasionally stay with relatives." And it looks like big life changes were coming up for him.

The resemblance!

 

[Lisbeth_S]

I found a couple of names who would fit (according to age, description, location, DLC, etc) in the list of missing persons in Oregon, but I can't find anything about them online, even in LE website/NAMUS/social media.

 

[feels_close_to_home]

Alrighty, I have no idea what LE is. Could someone eli5?


Edit: duh, Law Encorcement?

 

[bombardier]

Yes, law enforcement websleuths uses a bunch of acronyms that can be confusing for new users, heres some you may encounter:
LE = law enforcement
OCME = office of the chief medical examiner
SO = sheriff's office
UID = unidentified deceased/decedent
UHR = unidentified human remains (this is the terminology that canada's rcmp uses)
MP = missing people/persons
JMO = just my opinion
IMO = in my opinion
MOO = my own opinion
VI = verified insider

 

[ProudSuggestion3528]

No Ruleouts/Exclusions for this Doe.

 

[lightofmine99]

His NamUs was modified today; not new public exclusions.

 

[beavt]

Still no exclusions listed

 

[iulia]

His NamUs page has been removed.

 

[feels_close_to_home]

Is there something I'm missing on NamUs that lets me see case's that have been removed? [natively, not having to use sleuthing techniques like wayback]

It seems silly to me that when a case is solved, the 'receipts' are just removed from NamUs, so I'm assuming i'm missing a step here.

also blast to the past, "what's LE?"