Found Deceased OR - Jeffery Vance, 30, separated from friend after getting lost in woods, Douglas Co., 1 Feb 2019

[Angleterre]

It is allowed and that is so kind of you to offer to help. There are some things that I do know, but it's very basic knowledge unfortunately.

I am willing to help anyone in anyway if I can as I believe that the world would be a much better place if we all did so and all my fellow WS members like your good self, help in so many ways on here with your ideas and input from maps and timeline and finding information etc so if I can help then I will and if I can’t then I will see if I can get some answers from my former colleagues and HO Pathologists x

 

[BlkMtnGirl]

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[Owl podcast host]

Hi Drew, I'm very glad you're involved & on WS for this perplexing case! Were the substances in his system ones he was known to use?

Yes and no. Some were, but the levels and the amount of individual drugs was abnormally high. He was also allergic to fentanyl and would never have used it or anything with it. He also had “qualudes” which I haven’t seen in decades. It’s as if someone pumped him full of a medicine cabinet into him to possibly mask one particular drug found in a large amount. Meth and ampetamine singular. I’m familiar with a lot of what he had (also bupinephrine, like a subutex substance both used for heroin withdrawal. He never used any of this and only used meth, pot, MDMA also found. You d have to see it (the mom has had a very difficult time getting on here for some reason and I’m an admin under her for this case! So I’m not understanding why she’s having a hard time putting things up for you to see. If you listen to the podcast. Just skip the first episode and listen to 2 and 3 and you will have everything. It’s inane and I’m sure like me you have a lot you listen to. I’ve never seen anything like this and that’s saying something after listening to over 60 podcasts a week on avg and lists are true crime. (Work from home so have the luxury.
The detectives first assigned all said very suspicious and taken away and then closed! They allowed the suspects to walk all through crime scenes. Come for interviews when they felt like it. Drive to the scene separate and with the other suspects. Allowed to collect the evidence and it goes on and on! He told NO ONE about his friend being missing after seeing 2 people and asking for help down mountain, but no emergency. Found girls that found him strange at 20 am and again at 2:30 pm and finally accepted ride (was just waiting in the woods for hours (I feel to come down from drugs) before he knew he’s have to deal with cops. Even said his truck was stolen first. Then FINALLY his friend was also missing and still up there. He only took beer and corn nuts for food after being offered real food and water. This is not a man with hypothermia. (I can’t see my screen so I feel I’m all over the place here. It’s night and my vision is bad!)

 

[Owl podcast host]

I am willing to help anyone in anyway if I can as I believe that the world would be a much better place if we all did so and all my fellow WS members like your good self, help in so many ways on here with your ideas and input from maps and timeline and finding information etc so if I can help then I will and if I can’t then I will see if I can get some answers from my former colleagues and HO Pathologists x

 

[Owl podcast host]

This would be phenomenal! As the reply above it’s night and my vision is bad. So we can deal with this in morning but I can get maos, reports. Tox. ME, coco we wreck etc.. it’s in the story and the details here too. It’s just all off by a huge degree. No one will talk at all. His best friends are all acting very suspicious even now.

 

[Owl podcast host]

We also need to help Angel get on here! Not sure why but she’s having difficulties. The admin haven’t finished adding her and it’s been a long time. I was added and I’m supposed to be under them. Added, so she is able to post documents etc.. so we can get the help needed and REALLY REALLY APPRECIATE the offers. I run the podcats and partnered with the phone app! You APL SHOULD PLEASE TAKE A LOOK. I believe it will be a game changer in criminology.
OWL Once Was Lost pho’s app for IOS and Android. “Once Was Lost Podcast” iOS or Android! Perfect marriage of the tools and REAL-TIME abilities to get things done before the 24 hr window so crucial! It’s ALL FREE. No Ads! All paid for by us. This isn’t an entertainment podcast either. This case is weird because it’s the first. In future it will be missing persons and alert goes out and hopefully found immediately!! Have a much greater possibility of getting things done. Thank you all very much and please help us get this into people’s hands!

 

[Owl podcast host]

Sorry for all the grammar and all caps! Can’t see sell. I apologize