OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #13

[BeanE]

Good post EMMA. I guess the next logical question would be who delivered the information to the teachers that made them not concerned that Kyron was absent and what that information was?

If indeed information was delivered to the teacher(s) by someone, and if indeed it was delivered (versus derived) information that averted her/their concern.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Although I'd love to think Kyron wandered away from school looking for a Red Eyed Tree Frog, I don't think that's what happened. While putting together his Science project and doing research..He must have learned Red Eyed Tree Frogs are found in South America/South Mexico and not near where he lives. He seems like a very smart little boy who would have understood this.


I'm also sad to learn it's turned into a Criminal Investigation [as i've read on abc news], although ten days with him still missing I knew the case might head into that direction.

Kyron, I hope you are safe and found soon!!

Yes,this is very sad.I like your avitar of Somer

 

[Amster]

"The fair happened early Friday; Kyron was also scheduled to take part in the school talent show that afternoon, but he never made it there."


http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/06/clinging_to_hope_on_summers_cu.html

Thank you :smile:

 

[Skully]

I don't think the teacher was necessarily an irresponsible teacher or an irresponsible person. I think it is quite possible that she was distracted, because this was not a normal day, and there was ample opportunity for distraction.

I say stuff to my hubby all the time about dates or appointments and he is half listening to me and gets it all up side down. That is what I am trying to say, that maybe she was distracted and thought he had an appointment and was leaving with her, when she told the teacher it was for next week or Monday. Just a thought.

 

[BeanE]

BBM: No comment! Lips are sealed waiting for a more appropriate time.

Here is a hint though: Who has the authority over the school personnel regarding the children that attend public school?

Do you mean e.g. school administration, tax payers, something like that?

 

[violet67]

If the teacher KNEW Kyron was there in the morning and was unconcerned about why he left, it could only have been because someone informed her why Kyron was not there. If this were the case, they'd have their POI. Since we have not heard that someone falsely told the teacher why Kyron was not at school, I don't believe your #3 is anything more than the teacher absentmindedly did not note Kyron's presence in the early confusing morning hour. She never thought about it.

with all due respect....not much of any of that mornings events have been confirmed. Everything has been tersely answered with "no comment"

 

[CocoChanel]

S Finch....I completely agree that LE is going to solve this case. Their every statement and action tells me that they know a lot more than us. I feel sad after this amount of time, that it will not have the happy outcome I pray for. But then... I think of Shaun Hornbeck. I keep going back to Kyron being a SECOND grader - that is really young! Either it was a terrible tragic event in the family - or it was targeted, IMHO. I sit on the fence as to which. Past experience can honestly point me in both directions, but the press conference by the parents bothered me - don't know why - it just did. I hope I stand a chance to be taught a new lesson in this case, and can learn to see thru less jaded eyes.

BBM
I agree.

Good post EMMA. I guess the next logical question would be who delivered the information to the teachers that made them not concerned that Kyron was absent and what that information was?

BBM
This information is key in determining which of the 2 aforementioned scenarios is most likely to have happened, IMHO.

 

[Astrella613]

Kyron's absence from the talent show - and no one noticing his absence - has been a huge red flag for me. Why were NO family member's there? An end-of-the-year talent show is a big deal to a second grader! Why did one of his teacher's not miss him at the talent show? I am really not randomly casting stones in any direction - just trying to fill the holes in this story.

Well if he was marked absent for the day, the teacher would not miss him. I think I read that parents were not invited. Parents are always invited here so I thought that was strange.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Kyron's absence from the talent show - and no one noticing his absence - has been a huge red flag for me. Why were NO family member's there? An end-of-the-year talent show is a big deal to a second grader! Why did one of his teacher's not miss him at the talent show? I am really not randomly casting stones in any direction - just trying to fill the holes in this story.

That's a question we've been pondering for days, my friend. And still no answer.

 

[Amster]

Kyron's absence from the talent show - and no one noticing his absence - has been a huge red flag for me. Why were NO family member's there? An end-of-the-year talent show is a big deal to a second grader! Why did one of his teacher's not miss him at the talent show? I am really not randomly casting stones in any direction - just trying to fill the holes in this story.

yep...too bad no family member was there....the teacher didn't expect him to be there, but a family member would.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

Even in the confusion of a special day, at some point kids had to sit down for a head count, even if it was at the talent show. I used to teach at a Catholic high school. We had to walk down the street to the church and I always took roll before we left and after we got there, on the off-chance (ha!) that one of my seniors would try to take the afternoon off. So someone or several someones dropped the ball.

That's a great point about the talent show. It might be that no one could get off work or whatever for that event, although at times my dear retired husband gets drafted to go to events for his son's stepson (who looks a bit like Kyron and is about the same age) because his parents are both working. That would be a great question: who planned to come to Kyron's talent show?

 

[Calliope]

Kyron's absence from the talent show - and no one noticing his absence - has been a huge red flag for me. Why were NO family member's there? An end-of-the-year talent show is a big deal to a second grader! Why did one of his teacher's not miss him at the talent show? I am really not randomly casting stones in any direction - just trying to fill the holes in this story.

That's taken from an editorial, without referencing a source. I'll take it with a grain of salt until I hear his parents or LE or a spokesperson for the school confirm he was to be in the show.

 

[momtective]

Anyone know when the next PC will be? TIA

 

[Skully]

I missed he was in the talent show, I know they had one, but I thought he was just doing the science project.

 

[s_finch]

I'm so addicted to this case.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Well if he was marked absent for the day, the teacher would not miss him. I think I read that parents were not invited. Parents are always invited here so I thought that was strange.

"On Sunday, hours agents and officers interviewed parents and students who attended a science fair and talent show on Friday..."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/ground_search_resumes_this_mor.html


It sounds like parents were at the science fair and talent show both.

 

[Bee Charmer]

If indeed information was delivered to the teacher(s) by someone, and if indeed it was delivered (versus derived) information that averted her/their concern.

Naturally.

 

[JBean]

OK these are my 2 questions:

1. Why do some think that the teacher did not expect Kyron in class?

2.What is the significance of none of his 4 parents being at the talent show?

 

[emmcee]

I'm sorry, this comment doesn't help the search, but I can't help thinking about the children in Kyron's class. Does anyone know what they have been told? What a horror for them to know that a classmate has disappeared. Does this school have counselors to talk to the children? If I were a young classmate I would be terrified of being snatched. Again I apologize if this comment is unacceptable, moderators can delete. But it's a genuine concern.

 

[revampz]

Kyron's absence from the talent show - and no one noticing his absence - has been a huge red flag for me. Why were NO family member's there? An end-of-the-year talent show is a big deal to a second grader! Why did one of his teacher's not miss him at the talent show? I am really not randomly casting stones in any direction - just trying to fill the holes in this story.

oh no..wont be casting stones.....totally agree.....

The talent show would have had some preparation and a schedule........

He def would have been noticed as not being part of it if he was supposed to be in it..... (by the teachers who did schedules and preparations).....

therefore the big question is why then was his absence not questioned?????

If he was marked absent earlier that answers that question...

and the million dollar question, WHY WAS HE MARKED ABSENT WHEN HE WAS SUPPOSEDLY SEEN AT THE SCIENCE FAIR BY TEACHERS!!!