OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #3

[keeponsearching]

This discussion is moving so fast and probably I've missed something along the way, but there are a few odds and ends that are staying with me:

(1) As someone mentioned earlier, the SM made a point of taking the picture and immediately posting it on FB. I want to know if she is one who regularly immediately posts pictures on there. I see a possible "alibi" type motion here.

(2) Do we know if the stepbrother and Kylon got along? Were they close or were they rivals. If they got along, wouldn't the stepbrother be there on scene helping in some way? I know he went camping with his dad but wouldn't it be natural for them to be told what was going on? Of course if the boys didn't get along then he wouldn't want to be involved. Maybe that's why he lives with his grandparents? I see a possible jealousy thing here with the SM raising Kylon but not her own son.

(3) Where was the little girl when SM took Kylon to school?

:waitasec:

1) on her facebook she does do the posting of pics, and usually the day of that special event.

2 and 3 I don't know.

 

[BeanE]

Just a note- I did a sex offender search around Skyline Elementary..and none came up within a 1 mile radius. It wouldn't let me search beyond that.

Hmmmm I suppose we need to find a business or apartment complex a mile from the school in each direction, and search from there.

 

[Kentjbkent]

There are about 50 or so pictures of Kyron and his family.

They look like a loving, happy family.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10003676.html?tag=page

50 Family Photos now being displayed on CBS website....someone PLEASE tell me that there was not a very large licensing fee involved....and if so, that it was donated to a missing children charity??!!!

I still haven't recovered from news that CBS paid KC Anthony $200,000 for Caylee Family Photos (while she was supposively still missing!)

 

[darlin gal]

If he was last seen near the Southside entrance (that leads to the parking area) another possibility could be an adult/stranger approaching him and asking him if he could help carry "his child's" project in from the car, to lure Kyron out of the school and into the parking lot/car.

just a theory

 

[MsFacetious]

Has anyone else noticed another person who "lives near the school" being interviewed on multiple news stations? I'm not sure why but this stood out to me. :waitasec:

"It's strange how the child just seems to have simply vanished," said Jim Kelley, who lives near the school. "It's a parent's worst nightmare. It's unthinkable."

http://www.kptv.com/news/23816333/detail.html


"A, it was strange to have a car there, any car there, that we didn't know, and B, it was strange to have a vehicle come down our dead-end road twice in the same day, hours after a little boy goes missing," said Kelley. "That's beyond rare."

Kelley said authorities have twice searched the deep ravine, creek and railroad tracks located near the end of his street by air and on foot.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/day_three_search_continues_hun.html

 

[raeann]

They really do. They seem happy. Kyron seemed happy. There doesn't seem to be anything amiss with the family to me...

I looked at all the pictures carefully, not a scratch or a bruise on the child in any picture. The clothes are appropriate and clean, tidy home, toys, food, activities....all show no reason for concern or accusations of any kind. He was happy and comfortable with all of the family members. I don't think there is any reason to assume that they are anything but what they seem to be, and there has certainly been no friend or relative or neighbor or work associate or other school parent who has implied even the slightest bit of doubt about the true love and concern of this family.

jmoo

 

[darlin gal]

This discussion is moving so fast and probably I've missed something along the way, but there are a few odds and ends that are staying with me:

(1) As someone mentioned earlier, the SM made a point of taking the picture and immediately posting it on FB. I want to know if she is one who regularly immediately posts pictures on there. I see a possible "alibi" type motion here.

(2) Do we know if the stepbrother and Kylon got along? Were they close or were they rivals. If they got along, wouldn't the stepbrother be there on scene helping in some way? I know he went camping with his dad but wouldn't it be natural for them to be told what was going on? Of course if the boys didn't get along then he wouldn't want to be involved. Maybe that's why he lives with his grandparents? I see a possible jealousy thing here with the SM raising Kylon but not her own son.

(3) Where was the little girl when SM took Kylon to school?

:waitasec:

There are many pictures here of Kyron with his older step-brother. They look like they had a good relationship. jmo
He has been in his step-brother's life since he was a baby.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10003676.html?tag=page

 

[TGIRecovered]

The abundance of personal information this family has put out there on their webpages could have made this boy a prime target for a predator. If anyone associated with the school, parents, step-parents, or teenage brother wanted to snatch a child, either for revenge or their own perverted purpose, they would have had no problem obtaining information about family dynamics, school events, etc.

If this was a planned abduction, I believe that the abductor had reason to anticipate that Kyron might not be missed right away if he was snatched on that particular morning. I wonder if the teacher really "took roll", or if the unusual schedule threw things off and she filled it in later. It is easy to begin to let routines slide toward the end of the school year.

 

[Jules71]

Anyone having any luck finding Jim Kelley's address or name of street he lives on - so we can see where the white truck was spotted?

 

[Lava]

Long time lurker, but this case irritates me so I have to post! I think I have read everything available, but I have yet to see a statement from LE suggesting that they are or have checked the sex offenders in the area and cleared them. There are several with child rape convictions within 45 minutes, but in WA. One of them in particular creeped me out, but all would have to pass by several waterways and through the Linnton park roads. If LE has said they have checked or are checking, please let me know.

Also...being that Linnton/Forest park is right there...what about vagrants living there? That was something that worried me with Haleigh in the beginning (I lived in Gainesville and it is well known how dangerous it is to go in there). I love camping, but I would never go in a national park and I'm wondering if that area is similar or not? I did a quick search of missing Oregon children and a few did go missing in parks, but south of this area.

 

[cakegirl0905]

I found the following information regarding school policy in a September 2009 school newsletter (link below);

Please remember that there is no adult supervision of children prior to 8:35. Teachers and staff are busy preparing for the school day. The office opens at 8:00 and there is much to be done in the mornings to be ready for students. If you do need to drop your student off early you can contact Jolene Williams, who is with our on-site daycare facility. She does allow drop in students if it has been arranged in advance.

Be sure to sign out your student in the office if you are picking your child up early for any reason, and to sign them in when they arrive late.

http://skylineelementary.org/files/9_21_09issue.pdf

That seems pretty ridiculous to me. My son has been in two different elementary schools, and both of them would have supervision 15-30 minutes before classes start. Why wouldn't they at least have parental volunteers if they couldn't afford staff?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Hi JTSYS - Can't imagine what else they think it might be? Because the child is so very young and disappeared right from his school, I believe the FBI/CARD team are being very careful regarding what and how they say anything regarding this case.

Guess it's more what they are not saying that is important. moo

What I find strange, is why the FBI or local police hasn't briefed the parents, called a press conference and have them make a plea for their child's safe return?

 

[SuziQ]

Mid day newscast on Fox Portland in 8 minutes:

http://www.kptv.com/video/15359817/index.html

 

[kbl8201]

to those who keep up with insinuations, i suggest you put yourself in this family's shoes, and not only be scared to death about your missing relative, but have to put up 'setting up alibi's with photos' and 'did he get along with his stepbrother' and every other minute obscure detail that is leading nowhere and is not helpful to the search and investigation at all.

 

[eyes4crime]

I am not going to pretend that I know what anyone is thinking, I just want to toss out a possiablity of why they may have done that. Kyron and his friend (and or classmate) did the same project they are almost identical. Kyrons was extreemly well done. It was show that he had much assistance? So you might ask whats the big deal right? Perhaps he went off to help his classmate make his look better, offer assistance in looking for a frog? Maybe the person that put up the news wanted to point out that it seemed almost "perfect" and maybe he is under a lot of pressure to appear perfect?

Just tossing out ideas. They may just want us to know that his Step mom was very involved with his school work and school projects. It could be that innocent.



Just my :twocents:

BBM

I would think young children do reflect their parents values and traits, especially at 7yo. Kyron's step-mom has an 18mo baby and she is a teacher - his dad is into computers and works at Intel - computer geeks are almost always very detail oriented. Sloppiness does not solve nor improve computer problems, nor does it do well in a grade school class room. Some may call it 'perfection' and others may call it - helping the child do the best he can so he can experience pride in what he does., moo

If Kyron had a picture of a frog with a few difficult to read sentences, wonder what we would we be saying about his parents then? moo

 

[cakegirl0905]

After looking through those photos, they seem to have such a great family life. Kyron is obviously very loved and just as much a part of the family as the other children.

He is so adorable and sweet. Just a normal 7 year old boy. My heart is aching for him-I hope they find him safe.

 

[cj1132]

Unless LE says differently, Kyron's family members are victims too.

 

[SuziQ]

to those who keep up with insinuations, i suggest you put yourself in this family's shoes, and not only be scared to death about your missing relative, but have to put up 'setting up alibi's with photos' and 'did he get along with his stepbrother' and every other minute obscure detail that is leading nowhere and is not helpful to the search and investigation at all.

Actually those aren't bad questions to ask. I'm pretty sure LE is asking them. I can't say those questions aren't helpful to the investigation and search at all. Asking questions and theorizing is what we do here.

That said. Everyone, please make sure you stay within the TOS when discussing this case. And if you have a problem with a post please click on the red triangle in the upper right hand coner to alert a mod.

 

[Billylee]

Anyone having any luck finding Jim Kelley's address or name of street he lives on - so we can see where the white truck was spotted?

The closest Jim Kelley I can find is 4 something miles away, on Dierdorff Rd, the address is actually Hillsboro. I don't think it's him though, because I don't see any RR tracks and it said he only lived a mile and a half away.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...42,-122.862682&spn=0.036918,0.054502&t=h&z=14

Where are the RR tracks they're referring to?

 

[SuziQ]

Mid day newscast is on.

http://www.kptv.com/video/15359817/index.html