GUILTY OR - Latia Harris charged in beating caught on video, Salem, 2014

[LinasK]

I feel this attack was not in any way mitigated or justified even if the victim gossiped about the attacker.

But I do want to point out this thread is a mere 4 pages long. The link about the victim admitting she had talked about the attacker in an unflattering way (albeit jokingly) is but two pages back. So that info has been linked with an appropriate MSM link.

Again, I do NOT agree with the viewpoint that the assault in any way was justified or mitigated by the fact that the victim admits to having gossiped about her former coworker and an alleged affair with a boss.

I totally agree! So what if she gossiped??? BFD. That doesn't give anyone a right to violence.

 

[Sonya610]

I have seen people fired for the most trivial things -- one top performer was fired and simply because the manager "didn't like" the guy.

Yes, and I am sure one's view is also affected by personal experiences. The only times I have ever been so enraged I imagined harming someone physically was because they either threatened my loved ones OR made petty political maneuvers to intentionally threaten my livelihood (which would also seriously impact my ability to support my loved ones).

That sort of thing can be VERY serious for many of us, especially single heads of household. Messing with someone's job security out of pettiness can be a real hot button when dependents are involved.

 

[zwiebel]

Maybe it is just me. But the only thing worse than threatening to kick a toddler in the face, is standing around and watching someone do that. Without protest.

That's how generations get annihilated, and large-scale atrocities take hold. Based on something they did, or said. Or the color of their eyes; the color of their skin.

The very least anyone who witnessed this attack can do, is come forward, and tell honestly, what they saw. How nobody stepped forward to protect that little one, I don't know. Just imagine telling your grandchildren THAT tale, to put in the family history books. My tiny, 85lb Mom would have been scratching at that woman's eyes, the moment she made that threat. I'm more timid. I'd just have snatched up the babe and run like heck.

There is something really, really wrong with what happened here. But at least people still have a chance to put it right. They should do it.

 

[Simply Caustic]

Maybe it is just me. But the only thing worse than threatening to kick a toddler in the face, is standing around and watching someone do that. Without protest.

That's how generations get annihilated, and large-scale atrocities take hold. Based on something they did, or said. Or the color of their eyes; the color of their skin.

The very least anyone who witnessed this attack can do, is come forward, and tell honestly, what they saw. How nobody stepped forward to protect that little one, I don't know. Just imagine telling your grandchildren THAT tale, to put in the family history books. My tiny, 85lb Mom would have been scratching at that woman's eyes, the moment she made that threat. I'm more timid. I'd just have snatched up the babe and run like heck.

There is something really, really wrong with what happened here. But at least people still have a chance to put it right. They should do it.

Zwiebel, I couldn't agree more. I'm not a passive person, true: But even the mildest of personalities should be inflamed at watching this take place.

I admit, I may be biased. I grew up in a Southside Chicago neighborhood where fighting was common, and you better stand up for yourself: I understand street justice. I get it.

When a toddler is standing there, desperate to protect Mom, well...that's not OK by any kind of 'hood rules I grew up with.

I pray that people step up, get involved, and stop acting like teenagers fighting over an insult. Grow up, you can't fight everyone. There's always someone bigger and badder than you...especially in jail.

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[tlcya]

direct link to victims comments as quoted during interview regarding the history between the victim and attacker http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/2...e_feared_for_her_life_and_her_2-year-old.html

again none of it mitigates, but a direct link was requested so here it is.

 

[zwiebel]

Well of course, where I live, we have this sort of thing to remind us of what can happen when you just stand and watch something you know is wrong.

WARNING very graphic images at the link. None of those women or babies survived. The photographer, and many others, just stood back and watched.

http://www.les-crises.fr/le-sort-des-juifs-en-galicie-2/#!prettyPhoto

ETA: It's in French, also. But the pictures need no translation.

 

[tlcya]

aw zwie, I don't want to thank you for that but you know what I mean.

 

[zwiebel]

I have thought about it for a while since hearing about this case, but I am still of this conclusion; anyone threatening to kick a toddler in the face, needs locking up until they learn different. If they can't learn that, it is probably better if they stay locked up. IMO.

 

[gitana1]

No one deserves to be beaten.

Does it mitigate this at all - that the victim was at her place of work spreading rumors to her coworkers that the attacker was having an affair with the boss? The victim here doesn't seem to take any responsibility - at all - for the fact that apparently the attacker called her several times over the course of the previous few days. I wonder if the victim had just owned up, told her friends it wasn't true, if the attacker wouldn't have backed off.

This is extremely coarse behavior on the part of the attacker. If I were the judge in this case I'd be interested to hear more about the victim spreading this rumor.

And I do agree with the victim - the onlookers were children. I can't imagine a child stepping up and stopping that enormous woman from attacking. But they could have called 911.

Anyone who is capable of beating a mother like that, in front of her child, and threatening to beat the toddler as well, is capable of creating things in her mind that didn't actually happen, or of actually doing whatever she thinks people are gossiping about. The woman is quite an "unusual" person.

 

[tlcya]

Anyone who is capable of beating a mother like that, in front of her child, and threatening to beat the toddler as well, is capable of creating things in her mind that didn't actually happen, or of actually doing whatever she thinks people are gossiping about. The woman is quite an "unusual" person.

nodding.

 

[gitana1]

Mature adults learn to ''read the crowd'' -- insulting a hothead isn't a good plan.

I am disgusted that this violent act occurred.

civilized folks are careful of rumor mongering to hurt others at work too --

It's just totally irrelevant what the other lady said at work, if anything. I agree this is like blaming a rape victim for wearing revealing clothes.

love you to pieces and we usually agree but to me that makes about as much sense at the rape victim being chided for wearing a low-cut blouse to the club when she knew it would be packed with horny men.

on this subject we do not agree.

Gossiping is in poor taste.

It does not mean someone shoulda known better than to gossip about one who can kick her arse.

Besides, I do not put much stock in anything that horrible woman was saying as she beat the tar out of her coworker in front of an apathetic crowd and the victim's own toddler. IME people who behave this way do so when they are not justified and when they think they are. Rarely would I agree with their assessment of justified.

Even if I believe the victim gossiped about the attacker, it does not come close to mitigating this:

"You better get your son before I kick him in the f---ing face, too," Harris allegedly yells in the video.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/2...rutal-attack-caught-on-video/?intcmp=trending

The warrant also says that Harris was "threatening to shoot the victim while punching her about the face."

The warrant also charges her with attempting to kick Ferreira's son in the face.

Pelura said Ferreira told police a woman named "Tia" who works at McDonald's on East Broadway in the city assaulted her and "accused her of spreading rumors about her (Harris) and her manager." In the video the suspect is dressed in what appears to be a McDonald's restaurant employee uniform — a burgundy shirt and black pants.

http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/2...latia_harris_still_sought_by_authorities.html

The woman is crazy. How does beating someone senseless and threatening a toddler help? She was worried about losing her job? And assault and battery while wearing her work uniform helps that how?

Brave brave little man. Heart breaking.

That said, this is an old fashioned a@s whoopin for trash talking.
Would people be reacting differently if it were 2 men?

Not condoning the violence, but saying that if you do something to threaten someone's livelihood, you better be ready for consequences.

When you call this an "old fashioned &@$$ whooping", yeah, you're condoning it. Or at least justifying it.

And let me tell you something, there is nothing "old fashioned" about this. This is how low class criminals behave. Not human beings. No ladies in the old days would behave like this except maybe in a house of prostitution.

Also, I would feel much the same way if this was two men. Really? A man following a father with his baby, jumping on the man and beating the tar out of him in front of his toddler? And threatening to kick the you know what out of the toddler as well?

This is practically attempted murder. It is sick, disgusting, trashy behavior of a sick, disgusting criminal. There is nothing old fashioned about this and never could be. People who behave this way are criminal losers and should not walk among civilized society. I cannot believe anyone could ever find this remotely normal or justified or asked for or whatever. Geez.

 

[Sweet Fox]

direct link to victims comments as quoted during interview regarding the history between the victim and attacker http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/2...e_feared_for_her_life_and_her_2-year-old.html

again none of it mitigates, but a direct link was requested so here it is.

Thank you for the link. I read the article and it does not state that the victim made any statements. about Harris at the first work location (grocery store). It just mentioned that Ferreira once worked at a local grocery store where Harris also was employed.

The article went on to say that Ferriera said Harris was angry because she had told others that Harris was romantically involved with another co-worker. That comment is in reference to the McD incident, not during the time they worked at the grocery store. At the time they were working at the grocery store, it would be impossible for Ferreira to say that Harris was romantically involved with any McD employee. At that time, she likely didn’t even know who the McD manager was or his name.

The article further stated “Ferreira said she is also a former employee of the same McDonald's on East Broadway where Harris is employed. She said she visited McDonald's two to three weeks before the fight to visit former co-workers. While there, Ferreira said she made a joke about Harris and her manager being together."

In sum, Ferreira did not make any statement about Harris’ romantic involvement while they were employed at the grocery store. The only time we know she made any such statement was when she was visiting her former co-workers at McD.

 

[LambChop]

Not quite sure why she thought beating someone up would save her job?????

 

[tlcya]

Ferreira, 27, said she is currently a community college student and once worked at a local grocery store where Harris also was employed. She said Harris was angry because Ferriera had told others that Harris was romantically involved with another co-worker.

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Ferreira said she is also a former employee of the same McDonald's on East Broadway where Harris is employed. She said she visited McDonald's two to three weeks before the fight to visit former co-workers.

While there, Ferreira said she made a joke about Harris and her manager "being together."

http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/2...life_and_her_2-year-old.html#incart_most-read

MOO it can be interpreted in either way, that the rumor was about a previous boss and then a joke was made at this employment for the attacker or that they are referring to the same rumor about a current boss.

To me it just does not matter one whit because there is zero excuse for what that pyscho did. It is frightening to me that she has children and could threaten to kick someone's toddler in teh face.

 

[gitana1]

Okay so - what are the odds she'll go to prison at the end of this? My guess is about zero. About zero odds she'll see the inside of a prison.

The odds she will end up incarcerated as a result of this are about 100%.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Gitanan1 - I see this at varying degrees frequently in the city I work in. No, I am not condoning it, but perhaps jaded by the frequency of which it occurs. I know it is horribly shocking to more civilized individuals, but I can assure you this is typical fare in the city I work in. Sadly.

I do think people are overlooking how the perp's religion and the penalties for her alleged (gossiped?) infidelity would play out in her culture. The consequences for her would have been worse than this beating.

And again, I am as disgusted by this as anyone else. Sadly, just not surprised. A common occurrence in the rat hole city I work in.

 

[gitana1]

Gitanan1 - I see this at varying degrees frequently in the city I work in. No, I am not condoning it, but perhaps jaded by the frequency of which it occurs. I know it is horribly shocking to more civilized individuals, but I can assure you this is typical fare in the city I work in. Sadly.

I do think people are overlooking how the perp's religion and the penalties for her alleged (gossiped?) infidelity would play out in her culture. The consequences for her would have been worse than this beating.

And again, I am as disgusted by this as anyone else. Sadly, just not surprised. A common occurrence in the rat hole city I work in.

Oh, I'm well aware this occurs. And that In some places it's more common than in others. That does not in anyway change a thing I've said. People who act like this are human garbage.

 

[hopingicanhelp]

Not quite sure why she thought beating someone up would save her job?????

I'm thinking she wasn't thinking clearly. Or thinking. At all. If anything at all was rattling around upstairs, it was probably along the lines of "I've got to shut her up" or "I've got to make it stop," and, well... it didn't work.

 

[gitana1]

I'm thinking she wasn't thinking clearly. Or thinking. At all. If anything at all was rattling around upstairs, it was probably along the lines of "I've got to shut her up" or "I've got to make it stop," and, well... it didn't work.

Or sometimes people are just bad, low class people. Ugh this was so trashy and horrible to watch.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Oh, I'm well aware this occurs. And that In some places it's more common than in others. That does not in anyway change a thing I've said. People who act like this are human garbage.

Disagree slightly on this point. I don't think they are human garbage, I honestly believe this is just normal hood behavior to them. You talk trash, you get beat. Different code of living. I truly believe they simply do not know better since it happens all the time. Not saying it's right, just saying it's "normal" in the hood. MOO.

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