OR - Leah Freeman, 15, found murdered, Coquille, 28 June 2000

  • #141
Well, who knows if that is definitely hers though and of course we will NEVER no, unless LE did contact them to get it back as evidence, but none the less, it should have been taken in the first place!!
My name is Aimi, btw, and because you are from the UK, I will tell you it is pronounced, Amy :)
 
  • #142
Hi Aimi so how come you ended up on this thread?? Do you know Cory or just fell upon it, sorry if youve mentioned why and i missed it..
 
  • #143
yeah i agree the tshirt was a serious missed opportunity , and i thinks its lost now bummer
 
  • #144
prayerbone
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Hi Aimi so how come you ended up on this thread?? Do you know Cory or just fell upon it, sorry if youve mentioned why and i missed it..

I sent you a PM :bananalama::bananalama:
 
  • #145
Checking in and saying hello! Can't sleep tonight and was thinking about Leah!
 
  • #146
bumping up for Leah....
 
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Bumping up...
 
  • #150
Well considering the LE pdf states he was at Leah's friend house at 10.15 , had a conversation ,then rang Cory , then was back in town to be pulled over at 10.30 , i just can't see he had enough time to swap cars after 10.15..So my moneys on him having the Mustang by the time he returned to Leah's friends...


Why go to that effort to swap cars , when you only end up using the car you swap into for hmmmm 30 mins?? It seems pointless , unless i'm missing something...

Well considering the LE pdf states he was at Leah's friend house at 10.15 , had a conversation ,then rang Cory , then was back in town to be pulled over at 10.30 , i just can't see he had enough time to swap cars after 10.15..So my moneys on him having the Mustang by the time he returned to Leah's friends...


Why go to that effort to swap cars , when you only end up using the car you swap into for hmmmm 30 mins?? It seems pointless , unless i'm missing something...

I think it had a very definate point as to why he changed cars, esp. considering what his state of mind would have been, freaking out & "RUSHING" like never before/since- IF "he dunnit". (isn't that so?) I also suspect there's good plausible "psychological/subliminal" reason why the friend/mom don't recall what car he came back in. (cuz they didn't see one?)not to tease you, but when the time is right i'll love to elaborate so you'll see what you're missing.

I bet forensic hypnosis could corroborate that, among TOO MANY other things in this one. The "devil's in the details", but i don't believe ALL the details are in the devil on this. not anymore anyways. i think valuable info is right there for the proper "picking", if ONLY LE would start over,...not just reading the files now... but re-DOING the whole shebang from square 1.

I'd be re-interviewing EVERYONE (done by outside expert forensic interviewer/psychologist/hypnotist -ALL OF THE ABOVE-) who could remotely possibly have seen or even heard ANYTHING, even from inside a nearby house. Did they "think" maybe they heard something then decided it was just the TV? Did their dog suddenly bark and/or whine at something they couldn't hear, such as a distant scream? Dogs are ultra-sensitive to sensed aggressiveness or pain, & respond differently than to other things. Did somebody out & about see/hear "something" that seemed so innocuous to them they didn't report it, but is a "missing link". Did a then "too young to take seriously" kid tell parents he saw something while riding his bike that was 'dismissed' by them? Somebody who didn't want to get involved, but may now if politely approached? etc. & so on, SOMETHING to pin the tail on the donkey.

assuming there's a lack of physical forensics, eyewitnesses, & "in the know" informants...doesn't mean there's NO proof. "beyond a REASONABLE doubt". the smaller that timeline gets, the tighter the noose IMO. despite the fact that a tight window leaves less time to "explain away", the car switcharoos & lies about it squash credibility already. As do the "invisible man" hours afterwards, & prove "BARD" this a VERY "suspiciously busy" boy all of sudden after "kicking it" all day, & who then goes UNSEEN for hours while allegedly "searching"..(This is certainly NOT acting "reasonably" as it were). not PROOF, no, but then WHEN that "link" appears all these years later, Kaboom, boxed in tighter than a convicted killer in a 6x10 cell!!!

PS- has a "wrongful death" suit ever been considered? not for sure, but think maybe defendant can be forced to testify in those? regardless, the burden of proof is less. not that it's any consolation or acceptable as the only outcome, but it's SOMETHING, no? sure make life miserable meantime. {just wondering what thoughts are out there on that}

ok- enough for now, just trying to catch up & hopefully rejuvenate the nice little collaboration here. PEACE
 
  • #151
I have been reading about this case for a few weeks now and my thoughts and prayers go out to Cory and Leah's other family and friends. I have a few questions that I hoped could be answered. I an not sure if Cory is still posting here, but hopefully I can get some feedback. Who are the 3 or 4 other individuals that have been questioned according to the article in the Oregonian? Also what has been said around town in this "rumor mill" that was mentioned?
I also am curious what Leah's friend believes happened to her. She was presumably the last person to talk with get before possibly her killer. I am curios about this b/c I am sure they she knew the boyfriend and talked to him after Leah went missing. I too am from a very small town, and I feel that this murder has had to be the main topic and concern of alot of towns people for along time. If Nick, the boyfriend, was in the partying scene, which apparently he was, I have a hard times believing he hasn't been confronted or even had to get in fights over what happened. I know he was a few years older than Leah, but if I was one of her friends or classmates by the time I got out of school and or into my twenties I would have confronted this 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 and at least gave him a beating for abusing such a young beautiful girl.
 
  • #152
Bumping up for Leah and her mom. Missing Bud, I'll see if I can contact Cory to come and answer your questions for you! Thank you for caring about Cory and her family. This is a really tough time of year for them.
 
  • #153
I have been reading about this case for a few weeks now and my thoughts and prayers go out to Cory and Leah's other family and friends. I have a few questions that I hoped could be answered. I an not sure if Cory is still posting here, but hopefully I can get some feedback. Who are the 3 or 4 other individuals that have been questioned according to the article in the Oregonian? Also what has been said around town in this "rumor mill" that was mentioned?
I also am curious what Leah's friend believes happened to her. She was presumably the last person to talk with get before possibly her killer. I am curios about this b/c I am sure they she knew the boyfriend and talked to him after Leah went missing. I too am from a very small town, and I feel that this murder has had to be the main topic and concern of alot of towns people for along time. If Nick, the boyfriend, was in the partying scene, which apparently he was, I have a hard times believing he hasn't been confronted or even had to get in fights over what happened. I know he was a few years older than Leah, but if I was one of her friends or classmates by the time I got out of school and or into my twenties I would have confronted this 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 and at least gave him a beating for abusing such a young beautiful girl.

Hi Missing Bud! I am so sorry - I haven't had time to post on any sites for a while now.....We had to wipe my hard drive and I lost EVERYTHING!! I have most of it on paper and just have to scan it back, but we all know how time consuming that can be!! Also, the holiday's have me down and depressed.
I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your interests and concerns about Leah's case. It always boost my efforts when I realize that people still remember and care about Leah's case.
Your questions - the three or four other individuals that have been questioned according to the article in the Oregonian....I am not positive who they are but I assume they are others who have been involved in other murders in Oregon. For instance, I am sure that the guy who killed Brooke Wilberger from Corvallis Oregon, Joel Courtney has been questioned.
The "rumor mill" - not sure on that either! I know that so many rumors have run through this town about Nick McGuffin being the one. Other than that I don't know exactly what that is about. Sorry.
Most all of Leah's friends believe Nick is the one who killed Leah. Personally, it is VERY MUCH my opinion that Nick did it. Too much points in his direction. And yes I do know of one wrestler that kicked Nick's 🤬🤬🤬 because he just KNOWS Nick did it. I have also heard that Nick's brother Wayne got alot of crap when he went to parties after Leah's disappearance. Myself, I don't hold anything against Wayne. Part of me actually feels sorry for him because of all the stuff that has been said about his brother. I don't think people should take it out on Wayne. He can't help that his brother is a total FREAK and a possible murderer.
On a final note......Perhaps if Nick's girlfriend now would quit following me from site to site harassing me, he wouldn't look so guilty. If I were her I would be SCARED TO DEATH.
Sorry I don't have many answers for you, but I only know what is basically on Leah's website. Feel free to ask whatever questions you might have.....I may have the answers and then again I may not! But it certainly doesn't hurt to ask! And one never knows, your questions may very well hold the answers to getting Leah the justice she is so overdue.
Thanks again Missing Bud. I appereciate your interest in this case.
 
  • #154
Thanks for all the info Cory. I've seen you on other sites really calling those 3 guys out pretty hard. Keep up the good work and be careful out there.
I'm wondering if BB was part of the group smoking pot that night. If that's already been answered than I appologize for missing it.
 
  • #155
Thanks for all the info Cory. I've seen you on other sites really calling those 3 guys out pretty hard. Keep up the good work and be careful out there.
I'm wondering if BB was part of the group smoking pot that night. If that's already been answered than I appologize for missing it.


I don't think BB was at Johnson Mill Pond smoking pot with Nick and the others. At least his name wasn't mentioned in the documents. If memory serves me right he was at his Grandparents while that was going on. - Speaking of BB - something must be laying heavy on his mind....way I understand it he has been in and out of rehabs since Leah disappeared. I never really thought he was a part of the murder or cover up but it is very much my opinion that he KNOWS what happened.
 
  • #156
I read all this several weeks ago and I'm now refreshing my memory. I'm sorry for your loss Cory. I think this will be solved for you in time. If BB has some issues with drugs,maybe he'll get clean. If he does, there's a chance he'll tell everything he knows. Do you know what BB and NM do for a living?
 
  • #157
I read all this several weeks ago and I'm now refreshing my memory. I'm sorry for your loss Cory. I think this will be solved for you in time. If BB has some issues with drugs,maybe he'll get clean. If he does, there's a chance he'll tell everything he knows. Do you know what BB and NM do for a living?


Thank you Mutt. I hope you are right in that it will be solved. Obviously LE messed this case up pretty bad from the beginning - which is frustrating beyond!
As for what the two of them do for a living, to the best of my knowledge Nick is a chef somewhere here in Coos County and BB was BACK in rehab last I heard. I truly do hope BB gets clean and tells what he knows. Poor Leah. 10 years and no justice.....breaks my heart. But one thing is for sure - I will NOT stop fighting for her justice - never.
 
  • #158
BTW KIMSTER.....Thank you so much for emailing me and letting me know there were posts here I needed to respond to. You are a sweetheart!!!
 
  • #159
Thank you Mutt. I hope you are right in that it will be solved. Obviously LE messed this case up pretty bad from the beginning - which is frustrating beyond!
As for what the two of them do for a living, to the best of my knowledge Nick is a chef somewhere here in Coos County and BB was BACK in rehab last I heard. I truly do hope BB gets clean and tells what he knows. Poor Leah. 10 years and no justice.....breaks my heart. But one thing is for sure - I will NOT stop fighting for her justice - never.

10 years is too long Cory. Maybe the reward money will start talking to BB. Junkies become really self centered when they're jonesing for that stuff and they forget al about friendships.
Just keep doing what you're doing and don't let LE rest. Seems like they just need to lean on the right person and this would be done
 
  • #160
10 years is too long Cory. Maybe the reward money will start talking to BB. Junkies become really self centered when they're jonesing for that stuff and they forget al about friendships.
Just keep doing what you're doing and don't let LE rest. Seems like they just need to lean on the right person and this would be done

I know it's too long! Makes me scared it will never get solved. Too much time.
 

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