GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #5

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Good and Happy New Year to all!

And thanks Sasquatch for hanging in there and sleuthing on. I for one, am really curious to find out about your new leads, thoughts and ideas. I await with great anticipation.

Very happy too that your roses for Whitney have survived our first of the cold winter weather at Roslyn Lake. I was reading about some other people planting roses around the lake in honor of Whitney on the Whitney Heichel Memorial Facebook page. So come spring/summer you might notice more yellow roses. I just saw a report that possible freezing rain may be coming our way, so no driving for you!

Thanks for the new photos and of the mini horses too. Horses, Alpacas, Elephants, Oh my!.... We really are blessed with some varied and beautiful terrain in Oregon.

You are welcome! Thank you! I will post what I found tonight. It is great sleuthing with you and everyone else!

I am happy that the roses are surviving. I wish I had a chance to take them out of the pot and put them in the ground. If they survive this Winter, I will do that in the Spring. Everyone has such a big heart! I am so glad that other people are planting roses for Whitney! I can't wait until Spring to see them bloom! :spring:

Thanks for the heads up on the freezing rain. I have kept my driving very limited these past few days. That is one thing I do not want to drive on, is a sheet of ice. Yes, we are blessed to be in Oregon with a lot of beautiful terrain and different wildlife. I haven't seen any Zebras yet, but I did see a lady wearing a Zebra hat, in downtown Gresham, so that will have to do for now! :)
 
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HEATHERWOOD APARTMENTS - Google Maps

Okay, after driving around on google, with the link provided by Sasquatch, I found this map sign on the property. It shows the lay out of the buildings. According to the affidavit or pdf, the Heichels lived in K274 (middle level), and the Holts were in J168 (ground level). The Heichels were on Cochran Drive where the interview with CH took place in front of the 2nd floor unit. The buildings are actually very close to one another, just across the lot.

See Sasquatch, I went for a drive too...

Thank you Caffeinejean for going on the drive! :bicycle: Every time I tried to drive through the middle of the complex, I took the wrong street or driveway. When I drove in my car, I ended up only driving on the outskirts of the apartments, on Cochran Drive. This map and your info, gives everyone a better idea of where the apartments are, and how close they are to one another. Next time I am in the area, I will drive through the middle of the complex, now that this info points to where they lived. Thanks Caffeinejean! :coffeecup:
 
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Thank you Caffeinejean for going on the drive! :bicycle: Every time I tried to drive through the middle of the complex, I took the wrong street or driveway. When I drove in my car, I ended up only driving on the outskirts of the apartments, on Cochran Drive. This map and your info, gives everyone a better idea of where the apartments are, and how close they are to one another. Next time I am in the area, I will drive through the middle of the complex, now that this info points to where they lived. Thanks Caffeinejean! :coffeecup:

Thank you Sas...once I got the hang of it, I was even flying on google's gas.
It does make it easier to understand the apartment layout. And yes it looks difficult to get in and out of that property. It looks like there are only two ways in, the main entrance on Hwy 26 and then a back entrance at the opposite corner of the property on Cochran Drive. Plus, turning in and out on Hwy 26 looks dangerous with some pretty fast traffic!
I'm going to go look for a zebra now.....:seeya:
 
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After finding WH's SUV on Google Maps in front of her apartment building, I thought that was a pretty lucky find. The photos were taken by Google in August of 2011.
When I decided to use Google Maps to look at WH's Starbucks, I found another surprise. The Starbucks photos were taken in September of 2011 and I found WH's SUV parked outside. Again, I thought it was another lucky find to capture WH's vehicle in both areas. I looked at it through Google Maps and noticed her shell-bead necklace hanging from her rear view mirror and a missing rim cap on the passenger side wheel. I started to take screen shots to post, then I happened to noticed a black colored car backed in to a parking spot, North of her SUV. I zoomed in and noticed it was a Scion. I remembered the 44 page doc mentioning AH and JH Scion as being a 2010 Black Scion with a trunk. In my mind I had always pictured it as one of those boxy Scions with a hatchback. I looked onto the internet and found a match. This was a 2010 Black Scion and the coupe was the only one out of the two with a trunk. This was the same kind of car, but was it only a coincidence?

Then I looked to the right from the Scion,into the Starbucks inside area. It was Serendipity! Google usually blurs the faces. But this time it didn't. I noticed a man with a flannel shirt with rolled up sleeves that matched JH's photo from FB. The woman across from her was not AH or his mother, but a woman that had the profile of his mother in law. I was in shock. Only a few weeks after JH was almost arrested for stealing his friends rental car, he was possibly captured in a conversation with his MIL. What are the odds that Google cameras caught this moment in time?

With all of the coincidences throughout this case this added to the many mysteries. How fast they found all of the evidence. The reports of seeing WH at the gas station, the reports of hunters seeing her body on Larch Mtn. Even though these reports were never proven, the evidence was found and eventually her body was found in record time. And now the possibility that the following information was captured on record:

1. Both WH and JH's vehicles photographed in the same photo, being parked in their natural state. Showing a possible Modus Operandi of how JH parked his vehicle by backing it in backwards to a parking space and WH parked hers in forward. (JH parked the Scion in backwards exactly like WH vehicle was found at Walmart on Oct. 16th, 2012)

2. Both WH and JH were in the same coffee shop at the same time a year before the murder, and JH was most likely getting talked to by his MIL about the auto theft that happened a few weeks earlier. His MIL is looking out the window, likely irritated while JH is slouched. If the Anger-Retaliatory Rapist profile is possible,this could be the first incident where a negative event was associated with innocent WH, who had nothing to do with the event.

3. This shows that JH went to WH's Starbucks as early as a year before that October.

4. One of the North shots shows a possible back photo of WH working with a white shirt and tan pants and apron. The barista at the East drive thru in black clothing, does not match her description.

After making the findings, I immediately printed a copy and sent it to the District Attorney so that they can request the non-blurred High Resolution copy, to help in the prosecution of JH. I wanted to make sure it was in the hands of someone who can verify this and use it to possibly bring justice to WH, AH, CH and their families.
I don't think that I could have made this discovery if it wasn't for Caffeinejean and the rest of you encouraging all of us to keep looking. Sometimes I feel there are things beyond coincidence and just chance, in this case.

I think that all of us that are trying to find clues and bring justice for WH, are in turn being a witness for her. It was best said in the Movie called "Taking Chance" where the elderly Korean War Veteran looks at Kevin Bacon and says "You are his witness now. Without a witness, they just disappear."

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These Google photos were taken on September 2011, a couple of weeks after JH was investigated on felony auto theft, because he stole his friends rental car at Best Buy. (Note: You have to be logged into Websleuths to view the photos)

Here is the link to Google Maps Burnside Starbucks where WH worked:
http://goo.gl/maps/skbUc

West Side of Starbucks
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JH and Mother in Law
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JH and Mother in Law (with a photo of JH from an old FB page: notice flannel sleeves rolled up in both photos)
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North Side of Starbucks, possibly back of WH. JH car to right of photo.
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Back of JH and Minlaw (Barista most likely WH coworker in black)
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Sample of 2010 Scion Black (with trunk) as reported in Holt1.pdf 44 page doc
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Starbucks Parking Lot JH car parked backed in while WH SUV parked straight in
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Front view of JH/AH car (notice drink or something on hood)
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Here are the photos of WH's SUV taken September 2011(same Google Map link) at her work via Google Maps: The photo, showing the Dairy Queen, is looking down HWY 26 in the direction of where WH's apartment was, a few minutes away.

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More photos and info continued from post:

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Photos after WH's Vehicle was found in the Walmart Parking lot Oct. 2012

WH's Vehicle in Walmart Parking lot
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High Resolution link to the same photo(driver side pictured above) of WH's Vehicle in Walmart Parking lot Oct.2012
http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2012-10/1278/58598/IMG_1699.JPG

Passenger side Walmart Oct. 2012
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Passenger side window Walmart Oct. 2012
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OH MY GOD!
This is amazing sleuthing Sasquatch. I need to digest this more.
You are entirely right about mysterious coincidences!
Thank you ever so much for your caring concern and diligence!

I thought there was more to this........

This had me reaching for a cigarette and I haven't smoked in years. Incredible!
 
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@ Sasquatch - WOW! Great find! Glad you forwarded info to LE and thanks for sharing this with us!
 
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@ Sasquatch - WOW! Great find! Glad you forwarded info to LE and thanks for sharing this with us!

You are welcome! Thank you!
 
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OH MY GOD!
This is amazing sleuthing Sasquatch. I need to digest this more.
You are entirely right about mysterious coincidences!
Thank you ever so much for your caring concern and diligence!

I thought there was more to this........

This had me reaching for a cigarette and I haven't smoked in years. Incredible!

You are welcome! Thank you Caffeinejean! And thank you for helping with the leads and motivation to keep looking at things from different angles!
 
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Sas I am blown away. I cant believe you found this. What diligence and technical skill!

This has the potential to send the case in a whole new direction. The idea that JH was frequenting Whitneys workplace for so long before the murder adds some more weight to the idea that he had her on his mind perhaps?

Glad to see all you wonderful folks here!
 
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Sasquatch! Tennlyn told us about your post and this is GREAT sleuthing!

:cheer:

WOW! :bow:
 
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You are welcome! Thank you Caffeinejean! And thank you for helping with the leads and motivation to keep looking at things from different angles!

No, No, Thank you Sasquatch. It has been my honor to help in any way I can.
Your skillful study is awesome. And it is serving a bigger purpose... the justice we all want for Whitney. Thanks again and Good job!
 
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Sas I am blown away. I cant believe you found this. What diligence and technical skill!

This has the potential to send the case in a whole new direction. The idea that JH was frequenting Whitneys workplace for so long before the murder adds some more weight to the idea that he had her on his mind perhaps?

Glad to see all you wonderful folks here!

Thank you Glow! It is great to see you as well! I do hope that this will help with the case! I am sure it does add weight to the fact that he had contact with her outside of just church. I sure hope they can pull some of the store tapes that far back, in case it can give them more information.
 
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Sasquatch! Tennlyn told us about your post and this is GREAT sleuthing!

:cheer:

WOW! :bow:

Thank you Kimster! It was my pleasure! We have great Team Effort on this board, and I am glad that I was able to share what I found!
 
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No, No, Thank you Sasquatch. It has been my honor to help in any way I can.
Your skillful study is awesome. And it is serving a bigger purpose... the justice we all want for Whitney. Thanks again and Good job!

You are welcome! Thank you! :blushing:

I do hope that some of this info will bring us one step closer to getting justice for Whitney! I had a Sharp-Shinned Hawk land outside my window today, so maybe the hawk was a sign of focus and being observant of my surroundings.
I am just happy that I have had a chance to share some of my research on this forum, and that it has been useful!
 
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Hey Sasquatch! Are you here?

ETA: Drat! You logged off before I caught you. I'll check back later.
 
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WOW!!!

You are truly amazing, Sasquatch!

I believe the hawk was totally a sign and a blessing;-)
 
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Hey Sasquatch! Are you here?

ETA: Drat! You logged off before I caught you. I'll check back later.

Whoops, sorry I logged off Tennlyn! I just sent you a message! I jump on and off the forum throughout the day! Talk to you soon!

Sas
 
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WOW!!!

You are truly amazing, Sasquatch!

I believe the hawk was totally a sign and a blessing;-)

Thank you AvalonBlue! We all have great teamwork on this forum! The hawk was a good sign!
 
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Sas I am blown away. I cant believe you found this. What diligence and technical skill!

This has the potential to send the case in a whole new direction. The idea that JH was frequenting Whitneys workplace for so long before the murder adds some more weight to the idea that he had her on his mind perhaps?

Glad to see all you wonderful folks here!


An amazing find SasQuatch...job well done again...I guess you can send Al Gore an email for inventing the internet capabilities...LOL

These photos obviously establish some kind of verfiable link of Holt to WH

I've often wondered if others noticed Holt going to that Starbucks frequently?

And the photo of WH's SUV at WalMart was amazing, a great close up.
 
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