A few weeks ago I talked about going to the vigil that was held for Whitney at Starbucks the day after she was found.
I talked about seeing a double rainbow and trying to get a picture but it didn't turn out.
Well, it did turn out and I wanted to share it here, just to remember Whitney. I felt like this was Whitney's way of touching the people who cared about her.
A few weeks ago I talked about going to the vigil that was held for Whitney at Starbucks the day after she was found.
I talked about seeing a double rainbow and trying to get a picture but it didn't turn out.
Well, it did turn out and I wanted to share it here, just to remember Whitney. I felt like this was Whitney's way of touching the people who cared about her.
Why assume Holt was the driver? Why assume he was the triggerman with the accomplice? "Because he confessed," you say... Really?
For me, if I know for sure that someone has lied to me about ONE part of a scenario...I can also be confident that other parts could be equally suspect. So much of JH's story doesn't add up, that I, like LE find it "suspicious." Doesn't mean I'm leaping to the idea that he has to be The Killer (though that is an obvious first consideration)...it just means, at this point in time, for whatever reason, his story is Not Adding Up. And there is a reason. We just need to do more fact-finding to establish that reason for certain.
*There is more than one reason why someone might lie, even falsely implicating himself in a crime.
No. I said it was NOT found at his apt during the search warrant execution on Thursday. Amanda's computer was the only computer found and seized that day at their apt.
It's all in the pdf, which is admittedly a disjointed accounting of events. When the Judds found him wandering in the area of 257th and Stark (where so much of the action seems to take place), they heard him tell his story about his laptops and computer stuff being stolen from his back pack by those two robbers. The 'robbers' left him the black backpack (with I think some computer cables still in it), taking his leather jacket along with anything else of value from his backpack--his computer equipment, his cellphone, his wallet and the debit card he'd been planning on using when buying his train ticket to work that morning.
When the Judds (and Amanda) were relating all this to LE in their interview at the station, they did not tell LE ,"He's crazy--he had that backpack on his back and all the laptops were still in it!" Amanda also did not point out to JH that his backpack was indeed still on his back with his items intact. As I said earlier, it seems it wasn't--she called AT&T and even cancelled his cell phone acct. when it showed "data activity" on it at 7 AM (after it had been stolen from him). She apparently didn't want to accrue bills from the thief.
Because neither of these parties told police at their interviews (per pdf) that JH was delusional and in fact DID still have all his equipment...I conclude that he probably didn't have it in his possession. Because he was also under surveillance, I am also concluding he didn't have it hidden down at the police station shrubbery somewhere, either.I do believe his electronic equipment was out of his possession for a few days. Which is also why I believe his sudden confession about
on his equipment Friday and the 'stolen cell phone' (and the sudden return of all that equipment the same day) to be suspect.
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That interesting PIM. We DO KNOW Holt had in the SUV 3 cell phones ( Holt's, WH and Clint's). WE DO KNOW Holt did'nt call or show up at work that day. I'm wondering who was Holt calling on his cell phone Oct 16 the day of the murder? Holt's wife did'nt hear from Holt until later in the evening Oct 16 and that call came from the Judds finding Holt walking the streets(correct?).
Maybe, Holt was calling the acomplice to coordinate the murder plan? Just a hunch, I'm thinking out loud here...LOL ;
Why assume Holt was the driver? Why assume he was the triggerman with the accomplice? "Because he confessed," you say... Really?
For me, if I know for sure that someone has lied to me about ONE part of a scenario...I can also be confident that other parts could be equally suspect. So much of JH's story doesn't add up, that I, like LE find it "suspicious." Doesn't mean I'm leaping to the idea that he has to be The Killer (though that is an obvious first consideration)...it just means, at this point in time, for whatever reason, his story is Not Adding Up. And there is a reason. We just need to do more fact-finding to establish that reason for certain.
*There is more than one reason why someone might lie, even falsely implicating himself in a crime.
No. I said it was NOT found at his apt during the search warrant execution on Thursday. Amanda's computer was the only computer found and seized that day at their apt.
It's all in the pdf, which is admittedly a disjointed accounting of events. When the Judds found him wandering in the area of 257th and Stark (where so much of the action seems to take place), they heard him tell his story about his laptops and computer stuff being stolen from his back pack by those two robbers. The 'robbers' left him the black backpack (with I think some computer cables still in it), taking his leather jacket along with anything else of value from his backpack--his computer equipment, his cellphone, his wallet and the debit card he'd been planning on using when buying his train ticket to work that morning.
When the Judds (and Amanda) were relating all this to LE in their interview at the station, they did not tell LE ,"He's crazy--he had that backpack on his back and all the laptops were still in it!" Amanda also did not point out to JH that his backpack was indeed still on his back with his items intact. As I said earlier, it seems it wasn't--she called AT&T and even cancelled his cell phone acct. when it showed "data activity" on it at 7 AM (after it had been stolen from him). She apparently didn't want to accrue bills from the thief.
Because neither of these parties told police at their interviews (per pdf) that JH was delusional and in fact DID still have all his equipment...I conclude that he probably didn't have it in his possession. Because he was also under surveillance, I am also concluding he didn't have it hidden down at the police station shrubbery somewhere, either.
My opinion is that Whitney was shot and killed at the location where JH said he shot her, he then drove with Whitney's body in the rear seat area of the car to the gas station to get enough gas to drive to Larch Mountain where he disposed of her body, then drove to Walmart where he disposed of the items in the dumpster and parked the car.
I can't decide if she was in the front passenger seat when shot and then placed in the rear seat area afterwards where the majority of the blood was found. Or if he forced her into the rear seats where there would have been more room if he was planning on sexually assaulting her. The broken door glass and organic matter on the windshield suggest she was in the front passenger seat when shot. The other option would have been he folded down the seats making somewhat of a bed and then shot her there. I think he might of covered her body with the carpet and rubber mat from the rear part of the vehicle that was found on top of the lowered (folded down) rear seats when the vehicle was found at Walmart. Covering her with the mats combined with the tinted window is perhaps why she might not have been seen if her body was in the rear of the vehicle while at the gas station.
JH could have lowered the seats and placed the mats where they were found as a way to hide the blood on the rear seats also after Whitney was removed from the vehicle.
You can find reference to the rear carpet and rubber mat being found on top the "lowered" rear seats on page 23 of the affidavit pdf. http://media.oregonlive.com/gresham_impact/other/holt1.pdf
I took some pictures of the rear seat area of a similar 98 or 99 Ford Explorer at a local junk yard with the seat up and down for everyone to look at. (Sorry if I blew the margins)
A few things to note:
There is not enough room IMO to place a body on the floor in the rear seat area behind the front seats with the seats lowered or folded down. The rear seats hinge forward when folding them down almost up to the front seats. (you can see that in the last picture)
Another thing to note is that the levers to release the locks to lower the seats are on the sides of each seat and you almost have to open each rear door to access them. I was able to crawl across the seat to reach the lever on the opposite side, but if the seat was soaked in blood I might of gotten some on my pants in the knee area. Also if he was holding Whitney at gun point I doubt he could have folded down the seats by himself. She would have been able to make a break for it then. I guess it is possible he forced her to lower the seats while holding a gun on her.
