Othram - General Discussion - #3

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Honored that Othram could assist the Sonoma County Sheriff's Office and California DOJ in identifying a 1998 John Doe as Robert Michael Ream.

Sonoma County John Doe (1998) is now Identified

Sonoma County Sheriff's Office & California DOJ Team with Othram to Identify a 1998 John Doe

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[iamshadow21]

Honored that Othram could assist the Sonoma County Sheriff's Office and California DOJ in identifying a 1998 John Doe as Robert Michael Ream.

Sonoma County John Doe (1998) is now Identified

Sonoma County Sheriff's Office & California DOJ Team with Othram to Identify a 1998 John Doe

dnasolves.com

Not finding any existing threads for Robert, Doe or Missing.

Looks like his NamUs number was UP85273. You can view his page using the Wayback Machine, I went back to a capture from January last year.

 

[dotr]

Honored that Othram could assist the Sonoma County Sheriff's Office and California DOJ in identifying a 1998 John Doe as Robert Michael Ream.

Sonoma County John Doe (1998) is now Identified

Sonoma County Sheriff's Office & California DOJ Team with Othram to Identify a 1998 John Doe

dnasolves.com

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CA Thread 'CA- Santa Rosa, N.E. of Hearn Avenue/ US 101, Sonoma County John Doe # UP85273, skeletal, Feb. '98, Dna- Robert Michael Ream, born 20 Feb.'54, 2025.'

Mar 5, 2025

Sonoma County John Doe (1998) is now Identified

Sonoma County Sheriff's Office & California DOJ Team with Othram to Identify a 1998 John Doe

dnasolves.com

''In February 1998, human skeletal remains were found near at the northeast quadrant of the intersection of Hearn Avenue and US 101 in Santa Rosa, California. Forensic examination determined that the remains belonged to an adult white male, estimated to be about 50 years old who was likely transient or homeless. Despite extensive investigative efforts, the man's identity was unknown for more than two decades.''

''In 2022, the Sonoma County Sheriff’s Office and California Department of Justice partnered with Othram to employ...

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[DS2021]

Rankin County John Doe (2022) is now Identified

Rankin County Coroner's Office and MS State Medical Examiner Team with Othram to Identify a 2022 John Doe

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Rankin County Coroner's Office and MS State Medical Examiner Team with Othram to Identify a 2022 John Doe
A man whose remains were found in Pearl, MS in 2022 has been identified as Robert Dale Hawthorne.



Im not seeing a thread, and it doesnt appear that the UID was in NamUs

 

[othram]

Rankin County John Doe (2022) is now Identified

Rankin County Coroner's Office and MS State Medical Examiner Team with Othram to Identify a 2022 John Doe

dnasolves.com

Rankin County Coroner's Office and MS State Medical Examiner Team with Othram to Identify a 2022 John Doe
A man whose remains were found in Pearl, MS in 2022 has been identified as Robert Dale Hawthorne.



Im not seeing a thread, and it doesnt appear that the UID was in NamUs

You beat us!

 

[DS2021]

He was in NamUs

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP124875

View NamUs unidentified persons case UP124875, for -- --, body found Pearl, Mississippi. Date body found: Dec 07, 2022. NCMEC case number: --.

namus.nij.ojp.gov

https://archive.ph/KyfvY

Circumstances of Recovery
Assemblage of skeletal elements found by a utility worker in a wooded area near 107 S. Sweet Home Church Road, Pearl, MS. Lower body appeared skeletonized but intact and still encased in clothing; upper body was skeletonized and scattered. ID found on body is that of Robert Dale Hawthorne.

 

[DS2021]

You beat us!

I only noticed because of the app

 

[dotr]

Rankin County John Doe (2022) is now Identified

Rankin County Coroner's Office and MS State Medical Examiner Team with Othram to Identify a 2022 John Doe

dnasolves.com

Rankin County Coroner's Office and MS State Medical Examiner Team with Othram to Identify a 2022 John Doe
A man whose remains were found in Pearl, MS in 2022 has been identified as Robert Dale Hawthorne.



Im not seeing a thread, and it doesnt appear that the UID was in NamUs

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MS Thread 'MS-Near 107 S. Sweet Home Church Rd, Pearl, Rankin County John Doe #124875, partially skeletonized,7/11/22,Dna- Robert Dale Hawthorne, born '68, 2025'

Mar 6, 2025

Rankin County John Doe (2022) is now Identified

Rankin County Coroner's Office and MS State Medical Examiner Team with Othram to Identify a 2022 John Doe

dnasolves.com

''On December 7, 2022, a utility worker discovered an assemblage of skeletal remains in a wooded area near 107 S. Sweet Home Church Road in Pearl, Mississippi. The remains were partially skeletonized, with the lower body still intact and clothed, while the upper body was scattered. It was determined that the remains were that of an adult male, whose height and weight could not be determined. Traditional forensic methods were unable to confirm the man’s identity. Despite investigative efforts, no definitive...

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[othram]

Honored that Othram could assist the Arkansas State Police in identifying a 1984 homicide victim as Earl James McDaniel.

After 40 years, Lonoke County John Doe (1984) is Identified

After more than 40 years, the victim of a 1984 homicide has been identified as Earl James McDaniel.

dnasolves.com

 

[lightofmine99]

Honored that Othram could assist the Arkansas State Police in identifying a 1984 homicide victim as Earl James McDaniel.

I can't find that he has a thread here.

NamUs (ARCHIVE)
Doe Network (ARCHIVE)

 

[dotr]

Honored that Othram could assist the Arkansas State Police in identifying a 1984 homicide victim as Earl James McDaniel.

After 40 years, Lonoke County John Doe (1984) is Identified

After more than 40 years, the victim of a 1984 homicide has been identified as Earl James McDaniel.

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AR Thread 'AR- Interstate 40, west of Carlisle, Lonoke County John Doe, #UP 2823, strangled, Oct., 1984, DNA- Earl James McDaniel, 53, 2025.'

Mar 6, 2025

Kansas City man identified as victim in cold case 40 years later

Forty years after his death in Arkansas, the identity of a homicide victim has been confirmed as a Kansas City, Missouri, man.

www.kmbc.com

After 40 years, Lonoke County John Doe (1984) is Identified

After more than 40 years, the victim of a 1984 homicide has been identified as Earl James McDaniel.

dnasolves.com

"In October 1984, Arkansas Department of Transportation workers discovered a man’s body while mowing grass along Interstate 40, approximately 4.5 miles west of Carlisle in Lonoke County, Arkansas. The man's body was sent to the Arkansas State Crime Laboratory, where an autopsy revealed that the cause of death was strangulation, indicating homicide as the manner of death. Despite extensive investigative efforts at the...

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[dotr]

Some exciting news. This Friday, March 7th, we will be featured on 20/20 for two cases we were involved in.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896702816347197834

Cold cases that once baffled investigators are getting solved with help of cutting-edge DNA technology

A forensic lab in Texas focused solely on cold case investigations is gaining attention for its ability to use powerful DNA testing to help crack unsolvable cases.

abcnews.go.com

March 7, 2025,
''In a new "20/20" episode, "The Code Breakers," airing March 7 at 9 p.m. ET on ABC, and streaming the next day on Hulu, David Muir explores the innovative DNA technology Othram used to crack the murder cases of two young women, Catherine Edwards and Cathy Swartz, that haunted their small communities for decades.

"20/20" features Muir's exclusive interviews with Cathy Swartz's daughter, law enforcement, as well as interviews with prosecutors and a prior victim speaking out for the first time on television about her assault by Edwards' killer.''

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Post in thread 'MI- Cathy Sue Swartz, 19, sexually assaulted, bludgeoned & stabbed @ home, Three Rivers,1988,* DNA suspect arrested, Robert Waters, 53, 2023*'

Mar 7, 2025

March 7 2025

Cold cases that once baffled investigators are getting solved with help of cutting-edge DNA technology

A forensic lab in Texas focused solely on cold case investigations is gaining attention for its ability to use powerful DNA testing to help crack unsolvable cases.

abcnews.go.com

''Though Cathy Swartz's killer left behind a fingerprint on a pink phone and a bloody footprint in the bathroom, police ran thousands of prints without finding a match to the prints left at the crime scene.

Similarly, the suspect's DNA left on the phone generated no matches in CODIS, the national criminal offender DNA database. Detectives worked the case for decades without identifying the perpetrator as Cathy Swartz's family waited for answers...

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[othram]

Hope everyone gets to watch 20/20 tonight. If not, the episode will stream on Hulu after.

 

[othram]

A first-of-its-kind case in the Maine court system is combining forensic genetic genealogy with a John Doe warrant to seek justice for a survivor of a 1996 sexual assault. This case sets a precedent, offering much-needed hope to other sexual assault survivors whose cases have gone cold. Justice for sex assault survivors is no longer out of reach.

Using John Doe Warrants and Forensic Genetic Genealogy to Keep Justice Within Reach

A first-of-its-kind case in the Maine court system is combining forensic genetic genealogy with a John Doe warrant to seek justice for a survivor of a 1996 sexual assault.

research.othram.com

 

[othram]

Honored that Othram could assist the Clallam County Sheriff's Office in identifying a 2008 John Doe as 17-year-old Jeff Surtel. This case was a DNASolves crowdfund and solved because of all of you! Public support really works!

After 17 years, Clallam County Doe (2008) is Identified

Clallam County Sheriff’s Office Teams with Othram to Identify a 2008 Doe

dnasolves.com

 

[iamshadow21]

Honored that Othram could assist the Clallam County Sheriff's Office in identifying a 2008 John Doe as 17-year-old Jeff Surtel. This case was a DNASolves crowdfund and solved because of all of you! Public support really works!

After 17 years, Clallam County Doe (2008) is Identified

Clallam County Sheriff’s Office Teams with Othram to Identify a 2008 Doe

dnasolves.com

Here's Jeff's Doe thread: WA - WA- Clallam County, old Silver King Resort w, of Port Angeles, remains of foot in size 11 (right) Everest brand shoe, Aug '08 *DNA*

I didn't know if he'd have a missing thread, too, given his young age, but I couldn't find one.

 

[Caring1]

Here's Jeff's Doe thread: WA - WA- Clallam County, old Silver King Resort w, of Port Angeles, remains of foot in size 11 (right) Everest brand shoe, Aug '08 *DNA*

I didn't know if he'd have a missing thread, too, given his young age, but I couldn't find one.

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Found Deceased Post in thread 'Canada - Jeff Surtel, 17, Mission, BC, 29 Apr 2007'

Mar 6, 2025

So according to the Facebook group Help Find Jeff Surtel the remains of Jeff have identified through DNA testing. This was said in a Facebook post by Gary Surtel, whom I assume is his dad.

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[iamshadow21]

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Found Deceased Post in thread 'Canada - Jeff Surtel, 17, Mission, BC, 29 Apr 2007'

Mar 6, 2025

So according to the Facebook group Help Find Jeff Surtel the remains of Jeff have identified through DNA testing. This was said in a Facebook post by Gary Surtel, whom I assume is his dad.

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Thank you, I think I must have misspelled his name whilst I was searching. I'm only just barely woken up.

 

[HopeRains]

Honored that Othram could assist the Clallam County Sheriff's Office in identifying a 2008 John Doe as 17-year-old Jeff Surtel. This case was a DNASolves crowdfund and solved because of all of you! Public support really works!

After 17 years, Clallam County Doe (2008) is Identified

Clallam County Sheriff’s Office Teams with Othram to Identify a 2008 Doe

dnasolves.com

So grateful for the work you all do, the coordinated efforts of agencies crossing international boundaries, the shoes young Jeff was wearing. As a Mom, I can only imagine the heartbreak of his family - so much life ahead of him - he's been missing as long as he lived. Thank you <3

 

[Oliverleo]

His Doe thread:

FL - FL - Pensacola, WhtMale, 25-45 - Lion, Cross with Halo and "ex-con" tattoos- UP103127- March 8, 1989 - Charles E. Collier - NamUs Reinstated

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) 0 Missing Person Exclusions Estimated Year of Death 1988-1989 Estimated PMI 2 Months Height 5' 9"(69 inches) , Estimated Circumstances of Recovery- Unidentified white male found extremely decomposed and partially skeletonized...

www.websleuths.com

Hey Dear, the link you attached here is not working properly, do you have another link?