PA PA - ANTONIO RODRIGUEZ Kensington Strangler

[J. J. in Phila]

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7865843

Police: Woman dead in Kensington was not strangled

I'm guessing, since they are doing toxicology, it was an overdose.

From the surname, I'm guessing she was Caucasian. Her age was 25. I'm guessing those two things really raised the possibility she was a victim in the mind of LE.

 

[Filly]

RIP Crystal.

This poor girl comes from basically around the same neck of the woods as Elaine did. They're way younger than I and I never knew the young ladies. However, it hits hard no matter what and that they hail from near where I have grown up.

So, so sad. Beautiful, intelligent young women.

 

[bessie]

RIP Crystal.

This poor girl comes from basically around the same neck of the woods as Elaine did. They're way younger than I and I never knew the young ladies. However, it hits hard no matter what and that they hail from near where I have grown up.

So, so sad. Beautiful, intelligent young women.

I hear ya, Filly. On the one hand, we're relieved that the SK hasn't hit again. But on the other hand, does it really matter when another young woman has met an untimely death. When it hits close to home, it hurts. May she RIP.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Another choking (after consensual sex). Perp didn't match the description.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/breaking/Kensington-Woman-Choked-Orleans-112685129.html

Kensighton Ave. and Orleans was the location. It's a bit outside of the area, but still close.

 

[tfrohning]

Another choking (after consensual sex). Perp didn't match the description.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/breaking/Kensington-Woman-Choked-Orleans-112685129.html

Kensighton Ave. and Orleans was the location. It's a bit outside of the area, but still close.

was this today oh let me read your link. didn't you think by his pattern the next attack would be the 29th?

how far out the area?

 

[tfrohning]

hmmm J.J
c&p
The alleged attacker was described as a clean-shaven Hispanic male, about 5-foot-9 with a medium build. There was no clothing description given.

I think we read that he might Hispanic he could change and clean up a little.

in fact I think from the drawing he didn't look dirty....he could had shave knowing how hot this case is. It would be the thing to do.

hmmmm the date fit with his pattern. IMO the pants down hmm

so she went willing ....speechless.

 

[tfrohning]

I wish we know if she was white? I don't think that part of the Mo will change but I can see him moving out the area but not far.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

was this today oh let me read your link. didn't you think by his pattern the next attack would be the 29th?

how far out the area?

No, the bimonthly pattern would put it into next weekend.

It was more than a half mile, so not too far.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

hmmm J.J
c&p
The alleged attacker was described as a clean-shaven Hispanic male, about 5-foot-9 with a medium build. There was no clothing description given.

I think we read that he might Hispanic he could change and clean up a little.

in fact I think from the drawing he didn't look dirty....he could had shave knowing how hot this case is. It would be the thing to do.

hmmmm the date fit with his pattern. IMO the pants down hmm

so she went willing ....speechless.

The MO is a bit different than the survivor reported. They had consensual sex first.

 

[tfrohning]

After latest assault, police say there could be two Kensington Stranglers

Read more: http://www.philly.com/dailynews/loc...ranglers.html?jCount=2#comments#ixzz19oq7b68g


I been thinking the same thing

 

[J. J. in Phila]

After latest assault, police say there could be two Kensington Stranglers

Read more: http://www.philly.com/dailynews/loc...ranglers.html?jCount=2#comments#ixzz19oq7b68g


I been thinking the same thing

Well, I need a haircut, so that leaves me out.

The second assailant would explain a lot. Four of those could be by KS; the other for by someone that gets his jollies assaulting and robbing hookers.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

If I'm about KS's pattern, we should get another serious attempt at murder sometime this week.

(I kinda hope I'm wrong.)

 

[tfrohning]

If I'm about KS's pattern, we should get another serious attempt at murder sometime this week.

(I kinda hope I'm wrong.)

I hope your wrong too! but are you thinking the 5th which is Wed...

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I hope your wrong too! but are you thinking the 5th which is Wed...

I'd guess by the 13th, but probably the weekendm, if there is a bi-weekly pattern.

 

[Sonya610]

The police always knew the guy from the composite might not be the killer. One leaves live victims (and presumably no dna?) the other leaves dead victims full of dna. Pretty big difference imo, assuming the live victims did have a rape kit done that is a pretty dramatic change in behavior for the killer.

I have been waiting for the police to release the race of the killer based on his dna and have not seen that come up. They supposedly were running tests why haven't they released that info?

The Hispanic guy that had sex and then got into an argument with the female just doesn't sound like a serial killer to me. Most serial killers don't target their victims so they can argue with them.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I have been waiting for the police to release the race of the killer based on his dna and have not seen that come up. They supposedly were running tests why haven't they released that info?

That is much easier said than done. There isn't a single "race gene." Most black people in the US have a reasonably large percentage of European origin genes, where there is a difference in genetics. (Which explains why an old girlfriend can trace her lineage back to someone who crossed the Channel with William the Conqueror.)

Being Hispanic is a cultural and language designation that isn't genetically based.

The Hispanic guy that had sex and then got into an argument with the female just doesn't sound like a serial killer to me. Most serial killers don't target their victims so they can argue with them.

Yes, some of those seem to have a different MO. I was focusing on the deaths.

 

[Sonya610]

That is much easier said than done. There isn't a single "race gene." Most black people in the US have a reasonably large percentage of European origin genes, where there is a difference in genetics. (Which explains why an old girlfriend can trace her lineage back to someone who crossed the Channel with William the Conqueror.)

DNA testing is very accurate when it comes to identifying race in most cases. Hispanic isn't a race. They caught the serial killer in Louisiana based on a racial DNA profile (they thought the killer was white, and did dna testing on over 1000 white males, finally a racial dna profile showed the killer was black which changed the entire course of the investigation and lead to the arrest of the killer).

Not only does dna show the race, but the percentage of various races. Sheesh you can have your mixed breed dog tested and the results come back showing various percentages of different breeds. Of course if someone had a very very diverse racial background it might be hard to guess their appearance but most people don't fall into that category, if the profile shows 94% white european genes we can be pretty sure the killer appears to be a regular white guy, if the profile shows 85% African/Caribbean genes then the killer looks black.

It is quite accurate, and as it stands now if the potential victims are worried about the killer being a young black male and it turns out the killer is really a 50 year old white guy, with holding the dna evidence is putting the public at risk.

The Inconvenient Science of Racial DNA Profiling
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/10/dnaprint

 

[J. J. in Phila]

DNA testing is very accurate when it comes to identifying race in most cases. Hispanic isn't a race. They caught the serial killer in Louisiana based on a racial DNA profile (they thought the killer was white, and did dna testing on over 1000 white males, finally a racial dna profile showed the killer was black which changed the entire course of the investigation and lead to the arrest of the killer).

The guy in that case was apparently identified as white. What the genetics are often does not translate into outward appearance (me, for example, or the actress Maya Rudolph, though we have different ethnic backgrounds). Tossing in a Mediterranean European origin population (i.e. the Iberian Peninsula) just confuses it even more.

I'd be happy if they could identify the sex for certain.

 

[Sonya610]

The guy in that case was apparently identified as white. What the genetics are often does not translate into outward appearance (me, for example, or the actress Maya Rudolph, though we have different ethnic backgrounds). Tossing in a Mediterranean European origin population (i.e. the Iberian Peninsula) just confuses it even more.

Even if the general appearance is vague (and most of time it isn't so vague, most people can be visually identified as belonging to a certain race or sub-race) it is still extremely valuable.

Haplogroup testing can determine whether an olive skinned male is Middle Eastern, Italian, South American, Indian, etc.... If LE had a list of 15 suspects knowing the killer came from a Middle Eastern family vs South American would shorten the list dramatically, in fact the names alone would help narrow down the list.

When asking for help from the general public identifying the ethnic background would help tremendously as well.

(PS the Louisiana serial killer was never identified as white, the police just profiled him as white and stubbornly stuck to that idea until the DNA test proved otherwise).

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Even if the general appearance is vague (and most of time it isn't so vague, most people can be visually identified as belonging to a certain race or sub-race) it is still extremely valuable.

Haplogroup testing can determine whether an olive skinned male is Middle Eastern, Italian, South American, Indian, etc.... If LE had a list of 15 suspects knowing the killer came from a Middle Eastern family vs South American would shorten the list dramatically, in fact the names alone would help narrow down the list.

When asking for help from the general public identifying the ethnic background would help tremendously as well.

(PS the Louisiana serial killer was never identified as white, the police just profiled him as white and stubbornly stuck to that idea until the DNA test proved otherwise).

I think there is big difference between sub-Sahara Africa and Italy. They can determine groups, but not down to that level, as of this point.

Ethnicity is very different than genetics, especially with the fairly large Hispanic population.

It could eliminate some people, i.e. they could eliminate the Irish or Black populations, but that still leaves a lot of people left, even in those groups.