Identified! PA - Bensalem, WhtFem 461UFPA, 20-30, pregnant, in pumphouse, Jan'88 - Lisa Todd

[traacker13]

I looked up the brand name Braxton for the jeans to figure out if we could narrow the timeframe a little. If this is the same brand (I am assuming it is based on the font type and description of the company) then we can assume that the doe did not disappear before 2/15/1985 (as this is the first use of the brand anywhere): http://www.trademarkia.com/braxton-european-fit-jean-73562106.html

 

[joeytes]

There is a new image in NAMUS for this UID

 

[reasonableguess]

I didn't look vaguely pregnant until 6 months. I woke up one day and "poof!" Baby belly. (Then I looked enormous.)

 

[Sunshine95]

Is there any more info on Jinisina Stonehouse? She is my Aunt! I keep trying to look into links and its always back to the same ones.

I was just reading this thread for the first time, and this post stood out to me. Any more thoughts about Jan, or info that makes her not a possibility? Looks like her niece was trying several years ago to find out... TIA

 

[carbuff]

Three new names on the ruleouts since January:

The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
Katherine Anderson 1954 Maryland
Kimberly Blackburn 1958 Indiana
Tracy Byrd 1968 Pennsylvania
Bernadette Caruso 1963 Maryland
Susan Cerritelli 1956 Pennsylvania
**Evelyn Davis 1962 Ohio
**Marchelle Hansen 1964 Wisconsin
Charlotte Heimann 1954 New York
Anne Manchester 1954 Delaware
Amy Matthews 1959 Pennsylvania
Monique McClelland Pennsylvania
**Linda Peterson 1949 Utah
Michele Reidenbach 1964 Pennsylvania
Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
Barbara Shumac 1953 Pennsylvania

Also the shoe size discrepancy has been corrected: both pairs are now listed as 8-8.5.

The reconstruction shows a full range of facial views, profile, three quarters, face on. Click the attachment to enlarge. This reconstruction shows a much sharper nose and weaker chin.

 

[killarney rose]

I didn't look vaguely pregnant until 6 months. I woke up one day and "poof!" Baby belly. (Then I looked enormous.)

I was the same way with my first. wore my regular clothes till my sixth month.

 

[CarlK90245]

in the interest of continuing the dialogue, http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/riedling_susan.html

Susan Riedling lived a long distance, but in this case I am not sure that is necessarily meaningful.

She was pregnant in 1986 when she disappeared. There are some similarities with the dentals (crescent shaped front tooth visible in picture)

Hair, demographics seems to line up.

I was just looking at Susan Riedling again with regard to this case.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/riedling_susan.html
https://identifyus.org/cases/2202

I'm surprised that she isn't on the rule out list, given that not only was she pregnant - she was six months pregnant (as was the Jane Doe).

Also interesting that the bones were found on the property of a Publicker whiskey distillery. Possible Kentucky connection?

 

[jjohnston0827]

I'm surprised that she isn't on the rule out list, given that not only was she pregnant - she was six months pregnant (as was the Jane Doe).

I read that she was six to seven weeks pregnant, not months. Did I read that wrong?

 

[CarlK90245]

I read that she was six to seven weeks pregnant, not months. Did I read that wrong?

Oops :doh: Yes, you're right.

 

[carbuff]

Wait. Doenet says "Other: She was six months pregnant."

 

[jjohnston0827]

Wait. Doenet says "Other: She was six months pregnant."

Susan or the UID? Susan is said to have been 6 or 7 weeks pregnant, while the UID was 6 months pregnant.

 

[carbuff]

Susan or the UID? Susan is said to have been 6 or 7 weeks pregnant, while the UID was 6 months pregnant.

Okay, thanks, I think now I have it straightened out. I misread the pronouns in a post upthread.

 

[cvaldez1975]

i have a friend who wore heels the whole way through her pregnancy as well as flashy clothes. some women just do that. not me, i needed to be comfty lol.

 

[Tulessa]

I was the same way with my first. wore my regular clothes till my sixth month.

I wore size 5 polyester pants, maternity fell off of me, and I only weighed 136 healthy pounds when my son was born with normal birth stats. It's different in everyone.

 

[Tulessa]

i have a friend who wore heels the whole way through her pregnancy as well as flashy clothes. some women just do that. not me, i needed to be comfty lol.

I felt good wearing heels, but quit when mt OBGYN asked me not to lol

 

[Caring4Many]

This could be Rose Marie Gayhart.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gayhart_rose.html

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4934/0/

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/508dfny.html

Unidentified link is below
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/2202

Description of teeth are similar (chip on front tooth , missing teeth) Both the missing person and UID were pregnant. Rose Marie Gayhart was living in Florida, perhaps on her way home in NY when she met with foul play.

I submitted a possible match to the Doe Network. I received a reply that one has already been submitted so others are looking into this. DNA is available for both the unidentified person and Rose Marie Gayhart, so a comparison can determine if this is Rose Marie Gayhart or not.

Did you ever receive an answer on this? I'm curious because Rose now has a forum set up & I'd like to try to track which UIDs are ruled out. Seems not to be in her NAMUS at this time. Thank you!

FL FL - Rose Marie Gayhart, missing since 14 March 1985 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

The only answer was that the possible match was submitted already by someone else.

Since Rose Marie Gayhart's family set up a facebook page, I will send a private message to them about the possible match.

I haven't seen an update on this yet-has anyone else? I don't see Rose on the rule out list as of today either. Her sister has given me some things to add to her forum that may help her case but I wanted to also give her sister a list of the UIDs that were ruled out so she can keep track. In talking to her I found that she didn't know if them all. Thanks in advance!

 

[carbuff]

This is the ruleouts list from Namus https://identifyus.org/en/cases/2202.

Exclusions
The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:

First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

Katherine Anderson 1954 Maryland
Kimberly Blackburn 1958 Indiana
Tracy Byrd 1968 Pennsylvania
Bernadette Caruso 1963 Maryland
Susan Cerritelli 1956 Pennsylvania
Evelyn Davis 1962 Ohio
Marchelle Hansen 1964 Wisconsin
Charlotte Heimann 1954 New York
Anne Manchester 1954 Delaware
Amy Matthews 1959 Pennsylvania
Monique McClelland Pennsylvania
Linda Peterson 1949 Utah
Michele Reidenbach 1964 Pennsylvania
Susan Riedling 1967 Kentucky
Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia
Barbara Shumac 1953 Pennsylvania

 

[Caring4Many]

Thanks Carbuff, I had seen that but hadn't seen Rose on there but it looked like more than one person called to have her submitted. It's been over 2 years?

 

[joeytes]

The only answer was that the possible match was submitted already by someone else.

Since Rose Marie Gayhart's family set up a facebook page, I will send a private message to them about the possible match.

I IM'd Rose's sister through facebook last March, so they are aware that this is a possible match. She replied and thanked me. It has been over 2 years.

 

[Caring4Many]

I IM'd Rose's sister through facebook last March, so they are aware that this is a possible match. She replied and thanked me. It has been over 2 years.

Just to clarify-was it NAMUS it Rose's sister that said it was being considered? I only ask because her sister gave me her list today & this one wasn't on it. Is there a central number to call? I don't mind contacting someone as I know her sister takes each one of these to heart.