GUILTY PA - Carlesha Freeland-Gaither, 22, Germantown, 2 November 2014 - #1

[Minette]

Sorry, double post

 

[Victory]

[modsnip]

http://instagram.com/p/u8sWA5A4-u/

Here's a link to victim's current FB...I think this is a different one than has been posted (only one photo and 2 liked groups, one of which is very interesting. It seems she locked her page down tight):
https://www.facebook.com/Carlesha1331?pnref=story. Not really a lot on her FB page other than a couple of reviews. One to a juice bar a week ago and almost a year ago she reviewed a Bar school (I'm wondering if she had any previous experience as a bartender? That would open her up to meet a whole slew of people).

On an added note...I took one for the team and clicked those groups (I really hope that doesn't show up in my feed. I have all my church family on my page. Ach, can you imagine talking your way out of that). Both are very unsavory pages and look to be hook up pages (I didn't delve into the local area). I did do the group's search feature and it does NOT look like Carlesha posted in either group. However, it does look like these are very old pages with hardly any activity on them. Maybe someone else can sleuth them further. It's possible a friend liked those pages, she received an invite to like, and blindly did so. I have a family member that likes every group I do...I have no idea why..lol.

Did anyone click on this Instagram link and notice the comment about the gun shots? Maybe that is how he subdued her so quickly? LE didnt mention gunshots so maybe that is a fake post?

 

[verbonica]

Not finished reading to the end yet but I noticed in the store video. Dude opens the refrigeration door with his left hand. Grabs drink with his left hand. Pays at cashier with his left hand. He's left handed.

Good observing! I'm not so sure he's left handed, though. He uses his right at the ATM and in the street corner reach out.

 

[maureen718]

How he controlled her in the car really is very puzzling and bugging me! I was thinking if he had a stun gun he would have used it in the street surely? He was brazen. Jmo...I think there's much more to this than meets the eye.

ugh I have thought about a stun gun or taser since the beginning mainly because both back windows have been reported to be kicked out, that would mean in the short time he has her in the car she is able to kick out one window and turn around and kick out the other one, possible but I don't know if it's likely. However if he tries to stun her and hits the window it breaks and she breaks the other one when she is hit with the charge. disgusting

 

[FormerOakParker]

Good observing! I'm not so sure he's left handed, though. He uses his right at the ATM and in the street corner reach out.

Maybe his right hand was injured from when he beat Carlesha's head (I think we saw partially at end of 1st video) or something afterward, and he wanted to somehow conceal any wounds from cashier.

 

[mpnola]

ugh I have thought about a stun gun or taser since the beginning mainly because both back windows have been reported to be kicked out, that would mean in the short time he has her in the car she is able to kick out one window and turn around and kick out the other one, possible but I don't know if it's likely. However if he tries to stun her and hits the window it breaks and she breaks the other one when she is hit with the charge. disgusting

I hate to even type this, but I think she kicked the first window and the second one was hit with a gunshot that subdued her. Of course, this would mean that they had her pin from a different source, other than her. It wasnt her phone, since that was dropped on the street. An ex-boyfriend might have it, though! Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[Abstar80]

I have just forwarded a tip to the Philly PD on a person who could be the person in the videos

 

[CHERIE.T]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsuY6zze1Zs&app=desktop

Imo there's a possibility he hit her. I've watched the video so many times, maybe I'm seeing things.

To me it looks like he draws back his arm to hit her.

 

[FindHG]

Due to how hard she fought, how did he control her in the car? Possibly 2 perps involved here?

I don't think so, another perp would have helped him and minimize exposure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RxBZY7j_dM
He turns the corner, parks, comes out of his car. I think he emerges from the car at about 1:05 as you see the tail lift and a reflection of sorts on the rear side that's all shiny. Then at about 1:20 he starts to cross the street, adjusts what may have been a knife in his right pocket, his hand remains there, he is looking at the top left corner of the screen timing his walk to a a figure that emerges near the corner around 1:43 to 1:45. His right hand hidden the whole time. He may have been tracking her before he turned the corner, she may have gotten past him in the dark spot to the corner, foiling his plan. He doesn't seem to have gloves on as they struggle near the car.

Next we see her rush one way then abruptly turn right forcing him to turn. She at that point gets to the corner across the street, I'm guessing sure that he's following her and puts out her hand to draw out his hand. She starts to struggle, he grabs her with his right hand, something gets knocked out and flies toward the street that you see land eventually, and I think something else that you don't see land, he subdues and struggles with her for a while judging by the tail of the car moving. In the distance you see a lone walker getting closer as they struggle towards the car. I guess that's the witness who may have called?

She was reported to have knock out the driver side rear window which would explain the tail moving for such a long time. She may have knocked the knife out his hand thus he had to use his bare hands to subdue her as she struggled.

 

[maureen718]

I have just forwarded a tip to the Philly PD on a person who could be the person in the videos

wow that's awesome!! thanks for your dedication Abstar80!!!

 

[FormerOakParker]

I have just forwarded a tip to the Philly PD on a person who could be the person in the videos

Wow. Really?

 

[katydid23]

I hate to even type this, but I think she kicked the first window and the second one was hit with a gunshot that subdued her. Of course, this would mean that they had her pin from a different source, other than her. It wasnt her phone, since that was dropped on the street. An ex-boyfriend might have it, though! Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I thought it WAS her phone. If it was his then they would know who he was already, right? I think so anyway.

 

[katydid23]

I have just forwarded a tip to the Philly PD on a person who could be the person in the videos

Is it the look-alike in the pix with her mama?

 

[Abstar80]

Yep....By going through particular social media sites....I also spoke to another sleuther on whether this could the person.

I am working on the theory that this is a known person to her. I could be completely wrong, but its too important not to try.

 

[Abstar80]

Is it the look-alike in the pix with her mama?

No, I don't believe that person is the same person. He is much taller. Although he displays "nervous" body language...he doesn't seem like the guy.

 

[imjustagirl123]

Well done Abstar! Hopefully they can get his a@@ in a PD soon and he starts talking...don't think he will be able to deny the numerous amounts of CCTV.

 

[Abstar80]

Is it the look-alike in the pix with her mama?

No, I don't believe that person is the same person. He is much taller. Although he displays "nervous" body language...he doesn't seem like the guy.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Yes, after I rewatched it, it no longer looks like she is going to shake his hand. It looks more like he was saying he was just offering her a business card or something and she realized mid-reach something was not right but he got her. He freaking got the poor girl.

I feel like it was just him seeing someone to grab, but if it was someone from the party, it is possible they went with her to the ATM earlier and saw her pin number. Every theory here is just a little more uncomfortable than the last. Yikes.

Not sure but it looks to me like he planned on grabbing her. He pulls onto that street, parks his car and takes off walking across the street while putting on gloves?? :thinking: Did he see her at her cousins house? idk

 

[imjustagirl123]

Yep....By going through particular social media sites....I also spoke to another sleuther on whether this could the person.

I am working on the theory that this is a known person to her. I could be completely wrong, but its too important not to try.

Even if you are wrong, it's better to be safe than sorry!! There's a life in danger so do not worry, I am sure they value all tips they are receiving.

 

[Advocate1]

This article says the witness described the attacker as having a "large knife. "

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/11...fe-return-of-woman-kidnapped-in-philadelphia/