GUILTY PA - Carlesha Freeland-Gaither, 22, Germantown, 2 November 2014 - #1

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I would think LE is getting hammered with "tips" about this guy...but hard to believe he has not been identified by now. Unless his name is buried in those tips, kind of like the call(s) about where Hannah might be, seem to have been, Imo. But if she knew him, someone she knows probably knew him too, at least by sight. Jmo
 
So they think it might be her ex boyfriend? If so then LE must have his name. Am I correct?

You know, you bring up a good point. If it is [modsnip], then why are they showing us video and asking for help ID'ing the perp ? I'm thinking it may not be him at all. I've been on the fence all night. X BF stalker dude or random thieves. I don't know . :( My fear is that the perp now has seen all this video and will do something even more rash. Hang on young lady! Keep fighting !!!!
 
I've been praying for her. Would love to see some wonderful news on this beautiful young lady today. I'm not thinking too much into how much he bought at the store (IE 1 drink, 1 bag of chips, etc.). After all, this is a person who physically took someone against their will...why should we expect he would give her such comforts as food and water?
 
I have 10 pages to catch up overnight. But I just noticed today the thread title says ' reportedly kidnapped'. Did that say reportedly yesterday ? Or did something super bizarre happen overnight? TIA

I created the thread, and yes, it's been there since the beginning. I didn't use the word because I didn't believe the story, but the story was so new at that point, and was only on local news, that there just wasn't all that much information out yet, including the video that ended up coming out.
 
Just caught up with the thread. I was hoping we'd have a name by now, but surely it won't be long. There must be so many tips coming in, I hope it doesn't slip through the net.
 
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It looks like the guy was carrying something heavy in his pockets or on his person, the way he moves and his pants sag, fwiw, imo.

Wonder if perp has committed other crimes in front of cameras and gone unidentified in the past, so he was not afraid of being recognized.
 
Anyone else think the man in the store video looks like the man hugging her mom from behind at the news presser? :eek:
I'm working on enlarging the stills. jmo
 
I have a hypothetical legal question: If the initial crime, in this case the kidnapping, happened in PA but subsequent crimes eg: robbery (and let's hope that's all) happen in another state, what happens in a court of law? Are they tried for all crimes in the initial originating state?

If the person does a crime and cross state lines, all states/city/county's have the right to press those charges( crimes committed). In court he will be in each state to stand for them unless those states come to deal of sorts.
 
I've spent all night catching up on this thread, so I reckon it's time to make a contribution.

Firstly, Carlesha is AMAZING. Regardless of what the outcome is for this incredible woman, I can definitely say she will have made a great impact on the world. She is definitely my new hero after how she fought this man - she's a similar size to me and I couldn't even imagine doing what she has done.

With regards to what the perp purchased, I don't think focusing on the "buying for one" concept is going to be of much consequence. As Chickaroo stated earlier on, I couldn't see someone who so forcefully abducted a woman on the street stopping to buy her a sandwich and a drink. If it was planned out as meticulously as many of us have assumed, maybe there was already water for her in the back? And if she's unconscious at this point, would he have bothered to buy anything for her?

I'd like to think that if this man is so obsessed with her, he's going to keep her alive.
 
Anyone else think the man in the store video looks like the man hugging her mom from behind at the news presser? :eek:
I'm working on enlarging the stills. jmo

Other people have commented on that, yes. Not sure I see it, but there are others who agree with you.
 
You know, you bring up a good point. If it is [modsnip], then why are they showing us video and asking for help ID'ing the perp ? I'm thinking it may not be him at all. I've been on the fence all night. X BF stalker dude or random thieves. I don't know . :( My fear is that the perp now has seen all this video and will do something even more rash. Hang on young lady! Keep fighting !!!!

I'm puzzled about the same thing. Yesterday during the presser the Grandma had no problem at all labeling this [modsnip] guy as the one she thought was responsible. But then, media reports come out saying that the family was shown the surveillance tapes and they didn't recognize the guy in the videos. In the same article it said that the grandma didn't recognize him either. So........?

To complicate things more...........Grandma said that her and Carlesha had lived in Maryland for 4 years. Carlesha had moved back recently for a job and to be closer to her family. The guy that grabbed her, drove BACK to Maryland and is hopping all over town like the energizer bunny. So, it stands to reason that through whatever means, this perpetrator would have almost had to have known Carlesha through some means, otherwise why drive two states over to abduct a total stranger just to get some spending cash ?

I think she knows this guy in some regard, it may just be through a friend of a friend or some such thing, but there has to be a logical explanation
why he grabbed her off the street in Philly, and then drove BACK to the place that she had lived previously, most likely his old stomping ground.

It's also very possible that Grandma didn't know all of her previous friends back in Maryland, especially the ones she may have known through social media. We all know that teens are pretty good at hiding information from adults, especially adults that don't approve of the crowd they are hanging out with. Grandma made no bones about the fact that she didn't approve of this [modsnip] character, which leads one to believe that she may have not approved of a whole lot of Carlesha's friends, which may have resulted in some of these "friends" being sheltered from Grandma's scrutiny.

It seems to me that she almost would've had to know this guy through some channels, even if it was a casual acquaintance through a third party. Just because the family and Grandma don't recognize him, doesn't mean that Carlesha didn't. My guess is that once she saw who he was there on the street, it surprised the hell out of her to see him standing there, and she knew right at that moment that she was in some deep doo-doo, thus the instant resistance.
 
Other people have commented on that, yes. Not sure I see it, but there are others who agree with you.

I could be over reacting so I want to be sure no one thinks I'm falsely accusing someone....ONLY COMPARING PICTURES.
 
Message to the perp*(s) . Your photo and video are all over the WORLD now, not just locally. You will be caught. There is no way you get away with this crime. You will be caught and you will do time. Hopefully, you are still in a position to decide if you want to spend life behind bars or possibly just a few years. Let her go while you still have options. You are not getting away and living free on the streets after this. Help yourself here and do the right thing. It's not too late. :please:
 
I want her found by the end of the day, and I want this solved by the end of the day...............

You sleuthers get on it !!
 
Didn't the police state that from the audio they heard it sounded like she did not know him? Clearly with the card going back to Maryland almost immediately says something. Maybe she was being stalked and didn't even know it. We have seen that happen a lot. The video to me looks like a completely random attack. It looks to me like someone was driving around looking for a victim and he passed her and decided she was the one. Being her size myself I know what easy targets petite females make. I know I couldn't fight off a 13 year old boy if his adrenaline was pumping. If the card didn't go directly back to Maryland I would say this is random kinda like the Edwin Hall attack. The fact it went back to Maryland is throwing me and the search area with that is scary. Was the card used in Maryland and then back in Pennsylvania? If so anyone know the travel time between the two places? Any possible tolls between the two? They usually have videos and it seems a grey car with windows missing could be spotted easily.
 
The final lunge for Carlesha is horrifying!

Can someone give me the link for the new video that shows him reaching out his hand to Carlesha? On the link upthread all I can see are the video of the abductor in the mini mart and the the original video released by LE. Maybe it's my computer but I really want to see the new pictures. TIA
 
Imo there's a possibility he hit her. I've watched the video so many times, maybe I'm seeing things.

To me it looks like he draws back his arm to hit her.

You're not seeing things. He does raise his arm up over his head and bring it down rapidly, at 2:13 in the video. I posted about it here http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...apped-2-November-2014&p=11167816#post11167816

There's no way that restrained her though, since they weren't even in the car yet and the windows broke out after that.
 
NEW VIDEO, CLEAR PICTURES RELEASED OF PERSON OF INTEREST IN GERMANTOWN ABDUCTION
Updated 2 hrs 50 mins ago

The time stamp on the video shows 6:04 a.m. on November 3, 2014.

Earlier Tuesday, Action News obtained new surveillance video showing the moments just before 22-year-old Carlesha Freeland-Gaither was forcibly abducted.

The video shows the first moment Sunday night when the victim came in contact with the large man who took her.

The man is seen reaching his hand out to her on the 5400 block of Greene Street and Freeland-Gaither slowly backing away.

She tries to get around the man again, and that's when he lunges and grabs her. The two then disappear from view.

http://6abc.com/378388/
 
I could be over reacting so I want to be sure no one thinks I'm falsely accusing someone....ONLY COMPARING PICTURES.

Oh, I didn't think that! Sorry if my words came off like I did!
 
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