GUILTY PA - Carlesha Freeland-Gaither, 22, Germantown, 2 November 2014 - #1

[bpinkbinkie]

In Texas, beginning several years ago, we had to give a thumb print for our driver's license renewal. Whether or not LE can access THOSE prints in a case like this, I would have no idea. Whether or not PA or MD has prints on DLs , hopefully a local can answer.

I can't speak for Maryland, but PA does not fingerprint for a drivers license.

However, one new thing that has come about in recent years is anyone working in an environment with children has to have a child abuse clearance, which sometimes requires fingerprints. Just another possibility of how his prints may be on file (crossing fingers).

 

[hockeymom4]

Another thing to point out.........I was reading the "late night" posts (12 A.M. to 4 A.M.) earlier this morning, and they were pointing out that he walks with his toes pointed out, sort of waddles like a duck. It is a pretty distinguishable walk, you would think friends of his would notice it as well.

I noticed that as well. I didnt notice the walk in the abduction, but it was very fast. I also thought it looked like he was "thicker", but I think it was due to more clothes because during the struggle, you could see his waistline. I also noticed a change of shoes hours later. This could be for several reasons, but it stood out to me. Again, none of these make it that there are two people, just some reasons as to why there could have been two. When I read the article, it said LE wasn't sure if it was only person. Or something like that.

 

[bpinkbinkie]

Interesting note on the video "please note how the person of interest walks".

Boy they really scrambled that image so we can't glean any background info. License plates, store posters, etc. Most probably MD though, because of the front license plate, again.

Video here of him shopping in supermarket, cuts off at end, but hopefully they have parking lot security cams to pick up his car.

http://6abc.com/news/new-video-shows-abduction-person-of-interest-in-market/378388/

Edited because they now changed the headline to "A Philadelphia Grocery Store"

 

[Ontario Mom]

Another problem I just thought of.............he may be very young...........they may not have his fingerprints on file anyway, even if they could lift them off of something.

He does appear quite young. Very early 20's maybe?

 

[Coldpizza]

Guys, please don't post the ex bf's name unless you can link it up through MSM.

Thanks

 

[verbonica]

Another thing to point out.........I was reading the "late night" posts (12 A.M. to 4 A.M.) earlier this morning, and they were pointing out that he walks with his toes pointed out, sort of waddles like a duck. It is a pretty distinguishable walk, you would think friends of his would notice it as well.

Yeah, it's called a splay-footed walk. Not only does it look odd (and sloppy IMO), it can cause joint and even back problems later in life (not that I care about *this* doof's health!). There is treatment for it.

 

[oldwindow]

I noticed that as well. I didnt notice the walk in the abduction, but it was very fast. I also thought it looked like he was "thicker", but I think it was due to more clothes because during the struggle, you could see his waistline. I also noticed a change of shoes hours later. This could be for several reasons, but it stood out to me. Again, none of these make it that there are two people, just some reasons as to why there could have been two. When I read the article, it said LE wasn't sure if it was only person. Or something like that.

I haven't looked his shoes or in zoom but if he did change them something very bad has happened.

 

[steelman]

OMG Someone knows who he is!!
I just wish they would come forward
I find this so frustrating. LE know she was taken. They know who used her debit card, at least they know what he looks like, but they don't know where she is
Her family must be near crazy. I would be

It is incredible that they haven't gotten this guy yet. Think of the fact that this entire kidnapping was captured on video. All of it. That is about 10X more information than we normally get in a case like this. We have a car, a description, surveillance videos, still shots, last known location, evidence left at the scene, and eye witness accounts.....and on and on.........but still nothing as to who this guy is.

Doesn't this clown have an ex-girlfriend out there that watches Fox News, Nancy Grace.....HLN...........???

 

[bpinkbinkie]

Yeah, it's called a splay-footed walk. Not only does it look odd (and sloppy IMO), it can cause joint and even back problems later in life (not that I care about *this* doof's health!). There is treatment for it.

Hold on a quick second, I had an epiphany (maybe!) When you watch the video of him walking into the supermarket (not the convenience store), is that the silver car with a rear spoiler parked in the first spot, the handicapped space?!? Maybe coincides with the splay-foot walk, a disability? Keep in mind, at that point it was before the kidnapping, so the rear windows wouldn't be broken out yet...

 

[Ontario Mom]

So, who is Penguin Man?

Boyish face - likely no more than 25
Thin build, probably weighs no more than 150 pounds.
Wears a ton of bulky clothing, baggy jeans, bulky hoodies, etc.
Walks like a duck/penguin with his feet sticking outward and a stiff gait.
Drives a 4 door early 2000's silver/gray car.

I'm willing to bet there are LOTS of people who know exactly who this is. I'm also willing to bet, one of them is going to be who turns him in for that reward money.

MOO.

 

[TTF14]

How would the FBI know where to look for surveillance video of the POI *before* the abduction even took place unless they knew who he was? This is clearly several hours before the abduction. Where in Philadelphia was this grocery store?

http://6abc.com/news/new-video-shows-abduction-person-of-interest-in-market/378388/

 

[teeandcee]

Yeah, it's called a splay-footed walk. Not only does it look odd (and sloppy IMO), it can cause joint and even back problems later in life (not that I care about *this* doof's health!). There is treatment for it.

Yep, I have the back problems to prove it. The reason I noticed his walk is because one of my feet splays out like his and it kills my back. I work so hard on correcting it that I notice everyone's walk these days.

 

[steelman]

So, who is Penguin Man?

Boyish face - likely no more than 25
Thin build, probably weighs no more than 150 pounds.
Wears a ton of bulky clothing, baggy jeans, bulky hoodies, etc.
Walks like a duck/penguin with his feet sticking outward and a stiff gait.
Drives a 4 door early 2000's silver/gray car.

I'm willing to bet there are LOTS of people who know exactly who this is. I'm also willing to bet, one of them is going to be who turns him in for that reward money.

MOO.

I'd turn him in within 2 seconds flat if I knew who he was..........they could keep the money. This guy is definitely a menace to society.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Boy they really scrambled that image so we can't glean any background info. License plates, store posters, etc. Most probably MD though, because of the front license plate, again.

Video here of him shopping in supermarket, cuts off at end, but hopefully they have parking lot security cams to pick up his car.

http://6abc.com/news/new-video-shows-abduction-person-of-interest-in-market/378388/

Edited because they now changed the headline to "A Philadelphia Grocery Store"

The video of him at the supermarket is a Philly store, according to the article. So we know he was in the general area at least 8 hours before he took Carlesha.

 

[Dushi]

how would the fbi know where to look for surveillance video of the poi *before* the abduction even took place unless they knew who he was? This is clearly several hours before the abduction. Where in philadelphia was this grocery store?

http://6abc.com/news/new-video-shows-abduction-person-of-interest-in-market/378388/

yes!!!!

 

[steelman]

How would the FBI know where to look for surveillance video of the POI *before* the abduction even took place unless they knew who he was? This is clearly several hours before the abduction. Where in Philadelphia was this grocery store?

http://6abc.com/news/new-video-shows-abduction-person-of-interest-in-market/378388/

I imagine they are reviewing every video camera they can get their hands on in an attempt to track this guy. The "before" footage was probably discovered while they were looking for the "after" footage.

 

[Kaliste]

How would the FBI know where to look for surveillance video of the POI *before* the abduction even took place unless they knew who he was? This is clearly several hours before the abduction. Where in Philadelphia was this grocery store?

http://6abc.com/news/new-video-shows-abduction-person-of-interest-in-market/378388/

They may have asked shop owners to review footage or a citizen may have called in a tip that they saw the guy in such and such store earlier that day.

That is the clearest footage I've seen if him yet!! Someone knows him. He will be caught soon, he has to be.

 

[teeandcee]

So, let me get this straight; the convenience store footage of him buying the drink and things is BEFORE the kidnapping footage??

 

[Ontario Mom]

Hold on a quick second, I had an epiphany (maybe!) When you watch the video of him walking into the supermarket (not the convenience store), is that the silver car with a rear spoiler parked in the first spot, the handicapped space?!? Maybe coincides with the splay-foot walk, a disability? Keep in mind, at that point it was before the kidnapping, so the rear windows wouldn't be broken out yet...

The silver/gray 4 door I'm seeing in what appears to be the handicapped space doesn't look like it has a rear spoiler to me. I could be wrong though, and it might not even be the same car he was driving later. When he exits the store, he walks straight ahead, not toward the car in that spot.

 

[Metry504]

It is incredible that they haven't gotten this guy yet. Think of the fact that this entire kidnapping was captured on video. All of it. That is about 10X more information than we normally get in a case like this. We have a car, a description, surveillance videos, still shots, last known location, evidence left at the scene, and eye witness accounts.....and on and on.........but still nothing as to who this guy is.

Doesn't this clown have an ex-girlfriend out there that watches Fox News, Nancy Grace.....HLN...........???

I was thinking this too... I mean his family members don't watch tv and think, hey that looks like such and such.... I wonder where he's been?? So crazy... There is so much video and pics.... Shouldnt it be a slam dunk??