GUILTY PA - Christina Regusters for kidnap, rape of 5yo girl, Philadelphia, 14 Jan 2013 - #1

[Jules71]

I fear that other girl/teen/young woman is in grave danger.

 

[tlcya]

I tend to think the young woman (teenager?) who reportedly took N to the park and told her run, go call police in the wee hours of the morning wearing only a thin adult size tee shirt did so without the others involved's knowledge.

If it was always their plan to let her go, 4am in the morning dressed in such a way as to suggest possible sexual assault, with instructions Go! Run! Call police! is an unusual way to willingly release your kidnap victim.

I would think that her captors would allow her to cloth herself prior to willingly releasing her and further, would think they might drop her off in front of a hospital or other public building far from their lair - not just dump her in a park within blocks of where she was held.

Based on what we have right now I strongly believe the person who released her has probably gotten h*ll or worse for it from her companions.

 

[belimom]

I fear that other girl/teen/young woman is in grave danger.

I believe that may be true, if she did in fact tell Nailla to call the police. That doesn't sound like part of a 'let her go' plan. JMO

 

[Cappuccino]

I fear that other girl/teen/young woman is in grave danger.

I've feared that for a while now. At this stage I'm hoping she was acting under their orders because otherwise she might be in a very bad situation indeed.

 

[katydid23]

I struggle with this question, because if the teen did help the child against their wishes, then why did she go back there. She was free herself at that point. She could have gone to the cops with the child and turned state's evidence. So I don't really understand how it all happened.

 

[ozazure]

I can't see why he would conspire to boost his cause with more of what he is trying to stop. If he was outspoken about discouraging women covering themselves because criminals take advantage of that, well then sure, this might be upping the ante to make a point to stop the covering.

My gut is it is going to be a dynamic like Elizabeth Smart's abductors. Religion will be the stated cause but depravity the actual one. Sadly I think her grandfather's position will have led to her being the target.

I really hope the person who may have assisted freeing her is safe.

 

[matou]

I hope that tshirt belongs to the male and that any DNA from his sweat and underarms can get him identified and arrested.

 

[Cappuccino]

I struggle with this question, because if the teen did help the child against their wishes, then why did she go back there. She was free herself at that point. She could have gone to the cops with the child and turned state's evidence. So I don't really understand how it all happened.

We don't know the relationship between the teen and the adults. She could under their control mentally as well as physically.

We also don't know that she went back there, she might have run away herself.

 

[tlcya]

The only reason I can imagine that she was purposely released by all her captors at that time, in that place and under those circumstances is if someone unexpectedly arrived at the home and they panicked, telling the young woman "get her out of here now" and that the young woman had no access to a car with which to transport her further than walking distance.

I find this less likely than the young woman taking it upon herself to sneakily get N out of the house in the wee hours of the morn as the others still slept.

 

[tlcya]

I struggle with this question, because if the teen did help the child against their wishes, then why did she go back there. She was free herself at that point. She could have gone to the cops with the child and turned state's evidence. So I don't really understand how it all happened.

I am wondering if she ran off herself. If she was with those people unwillingly or is another victim of sorts, she may have gotten in their company because she was a runaway, thus would not want to go to the police.

Or she could be a family member of one of the others and therefore, be torn between doing what is right and not wanting to get relative(s) in trouble with the law.

 

[O'Really]

I think there's a good chance the police are mentioning a teen girl letting little NR go to encourage that teen girl to contact them. You know? "Hey, you let her go. That's a good thing. You aren't in trouble, just give us a call and tell us about the kidnappers."
I have a good feeling about this case being solved.
I hope NR lives a happy, peaceful life. Poor kid isn't gonna look at playgrounds the same ever again.

 

[Cappuccino]

I am wondering if she ran off herself. If she was with those people unwillingly or is another victim of sorts, she may have gotten in their company because she was a runaway, thus would not want to go to the police.

Or she could be a family member of one of the others and therefore, be torn between doing what is right and not wanting to get relative(s) in trouble with the law.

Yes, people don't always act logically in that situation. Remember the case of Steven Stayner who was kidnapped aged 7, and when he was 14 his kidnapper snatched a younger child called Timmy White. Steven's masterplan to rescue Timmy was to drop him off anonymously and then run away and live on the streets somewhere.

Luckily he was spotted by a police officer and reunited with his own family straight away, but maybe this girl wasn't so lucky?

 

[matou]

Why would the girl be made to hide under a bed? Who was she hiding from? Were there other people living in the home who were unaware of what was happening? Maybe to make sure she wouldn't run up to a window and be seen by neighbors? I wonder if the windows in the home were covered with paper? That would something to look for i.e. suspicious home. JMO

 

[katydid23]

Why would the girl be made to hide under a bed? Who was she hiding from? Were there other people living in the home who were unaware of what was happening? Maybe to make sure she wouldn't run up to a window and be seen by neighbors? I wonder if the windows in the home were covered with paper? That would something to look for i.e. suspicious home. JMO

I was wondering if maybe the teen girl came to the home unannounced. Maybe she is a relative. And the couple tried to hide the kidnapped child from her.

But there were reportedly other children in the home, so maybe they told the teen and she helped the child escape. JMO

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I tend to think the young woman (teenager?) who reportedly took N to the park and told her run, go call police in the wee hours of the morning wearing only a thin adult size tee shirt did so without the others involved's knowledge.

If it was always their plan to let her go, 4am in the morning dressed in such a way as to suggest possible sexual assault, with instructions Go! Run! Call police! is an unusual way to willingly release your kidnap victim.

I would think that her captors would allow her to cloth herself prior to willingly releasing her and further, would think they might drop her off in front of a hospital or other public building far from their lair - not just dump her in a park within blocks of where she was held.

Based on what we have right now I strongly believe the person who released her has probably gotten h*ll or worse for it from her companions.

.... Or she is fearfully in hiding as we speak! :what:

 

[belimom]

I struggle with this question, because if the teen did help the child against their wishes, then why did she go back there. She was free herself at that point. She could have gone to the cops with the child and turned state's evidence. So I don't really understand how it all happened.

I am wondering if she ran off herself. If she was with those people unwillingly or is another victim of sorts, she may have gotten in their company because she was a runaway, thus would not want to go to the police.

Or she could be a family member of one of the others and therefore, be torn between doing what is right and not wanting to get relative(s) in trouble with the law.

bbm

That's what I was thinking -- if it's the older girl's family, then she would return back home, thinking she didn't have the option to leave. Kids in those situations don't always understand that what is being done to them is wrong, since it's the father or mother or brother or whatever - and that if they were to tell LE then they would just be sent right back home...

 

[watcher9]

It looks like they would have had to use a car to get across the river to the park unless there is another way around. Would there be cameras on the bridge?

 

[Gracelin]

Philly has a big brother type camera system.I am not sure if they are in use in this area.

http://www.phillytrib.com/cityandre...a-few-blind-spots-in-city’s-surveillance.html

 

[WillenFan21]

I want to bring this up again as I feel it is crucial evidence as to who might have taken this child.

Just minutes later, police said, a woman dressed in Muslim garb, which only shows her eyes, signed in with the name "Tiffany."

The girl does have relatives who are Muslim and her uncle does have a girlfriend named Tiffany who was on the list of those allowed to pick her up from school. But it wasn't learned until later that it was not her.

I truly believe that whoever took N has some sort of connection or knowledge about who is on the list of people who is allowed to N pick up at school. Otherwise why randomly throw the name Tiffany out there. They HAD to have known someone named Tiffany was on that list as it would have been the only way to get N out of school. You know what I mean?

 

[hollyblue]

Where was it stated the mother never wore traditional garb, considering she is on TV wearing what appears to be Muslim clothing?

My bad, I misread that in the article. Sorry folks...:blushing: