PA - Conner Snyder, 8, & Brinley, 4, hangings, Berks Co., 23 Sept 2019 *Mom arrested* *GRAPHIC* #2

[imstilla.grandma]

Since Witness 3 stated the two kids had only played once in the basement last Christmas riding scooters - what was basement used for? It makes me wonder what room the sicko photos were taken in.

 

[Kadoober]

Thank you JerseyGirl!!!

This:
Sept 23 at 15:49 - Connor arrives home from school on the school bus (video)
Sept 23 at 16:30 - called 911 to report the hangings

Is just horrendous.
41 minutes from the time Conner gets home, he and Brinley have been hung downstairs.
She must have had the stage set and was ready to go, just waiting for him to get home from school.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Snip:
Sept 19 at 21:24 - Text, "You'll hopefully see Sunday"
Sept 19 at 21:25 - Text,"Just found out [] goes to work ... gonna be mom ... she's a ***** when it comes to babysitting"
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/dacopy0340countyofberks.com_20191202_121314.pdf
Sunday is the 22nd - when she placed Walmart order.

 

[oviedo]

Tried to put together a timeline based on the Affidavit:

Three Weeks prior to Sept 23 incident: Defendant came over and told Witness 1 and her mother that she is depressed and can't get out of bed and does not care anymore about her kids.
Sept 3 at 03:03 - text, "He's eating...."
Sept 3 at 03:05 - text, "He keeps moving..."
Sept 3 at 11:28 - photo with dog
Sept 3 at 21:23 - text, "He did good..."
Sept 15 at 23:29 - Text, "Sorry...kid problems"
Sept 15 at 23:30 - Text, "Major kid problems"
Sept 16 - Witness 1 received text message that Victim 2 was suicidal. Witness 1 said they picked up Victim 2 from school that day and he was fine, laughing and sitting with friends when picked up.
Sept 17 at 07:21 - Text, "Things are bad.... Bullying... I just wanna cry."
Sept 17 at 11:14 - Text, "Oh Daddy ... just took good pics for you..."
Sept 17 at 22:21 - internet search, "carbon monoxide in a car how long to die"
Sept 18 at 23:10 - Sent 2 pictures with the dog, another picture in lingerie
Sept 18 at 23:27 - Text, "He actually went for it..."
Sept 18 at 23:27 - Text, "Laying"
Sept 19 at 21:24 - Text, "You'll hopefully see Sunday"
Sept 19 at 21:25 - Text,"Just found out [] goes to work ... gonna be mom ... she's a ***** when it comes to babysitting"
Sept 20 at 18:58 - internet search, ""almost got away with it" and "almost got away with it best episodes"
Sept 22 at 11:19am - internet search, "hanging yourself" and "short drop/simple suspension" describes effective way to hang someone
Sept 22 - placed order for dog lead online at Walmart
Sept 23 at 09:30 - online pick up of dog lead
Sept 23 at 11:27 - internet search, "do a hybrid car produce carbon monoxide"
Sept 23 at 11:28 - internet search, "do a hybrid car produce carbon monoxide while idling"
Sept 23 at 15:49 - Connor arrives home from school on the school bus (video)
Sept 23 at 16:30 - called 911 to report the hangings
Sept 23 - questioned about cell phone (--2280), said she left it at the residence.
Sept 25 - provided police with new cell phone (--8419) which was also used to place Walmart online order.
Oct 4 - defendant claims she lost Galaxy Note 9 phone, although 5 other cell phones were located, one which included 8419, the only activity started after Sept 23.

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/dacopy0340countyofberks.com_20191202_121314.pdf

thanks for doing this and for putting it in the media thread. Looks like poor Conner just had a few minutes before she killed him.. poor thing.

 

[TTF14]

Since Witness 3 stated the two kids had only played once in the basement last Christmas riding scooters - what was basement used for? It makes me wonder what room the sicko photos were taken in.

Houses of that type usually have the washer/dryer in the basement, but of course I can't be sure. Also, hot water heater, furnace, sump pump, storage.....

 

[Jealoushe]

It looks like she wanted them out of the way so she could be a pervert without interruptions.

Now excuse me for not knowing a lot about bondage and such, but the way she calls him "daddy" does that indicate she's being someone's slave? And if so, is it possible she will blame this on her phone partner by saying he ordered her to get rid of the kids?

The daddy thing could be afetish but it is also reference to how some people now refer to their lovers, it can be for fun or for fetich. Theres also a Podcast "Call her Daddy", where women take back their sexuality.

How do these sick creeps find each other? It's gross enough that she was sexually abusing her dog and sending pictures of it, but the fact that the dude that received it didn't say "ew, gross don't do that" and just went along with it... My God, this is so disgusting.
It does seem like Conner and Brinley became a big nuisance, when she was talking about babysitting arrangements so she could meet up with the guy she was sending all of those pictures to. And it's not the fact that a single mother was trying to find someone to babysit her kids so she could go on dates (which, by all means, it's totally normal and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it), it's the way she talks about it. She's a creep, ew.

It is typically the woman on the end, doing things that have been requested to please the man.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Why does affidavit read as killer psycho mom omits/avoids speaking of Victim 1 daughter? Brinley is briefly mentioned when mom speaks of trying to lift her. That single ‘one-on-one’ interaction with seeing and touching Brinley is when her “anxiety spikes”. She starts to sweat profusely and can’t get the latch off. Imo, this is probably one of the few true portions of her statement. Did reality and panic hit her like a lightening bolt when she cowardly crept downstairs? Or is she too cold and black hearted for even the most basic human emotion of fear? Of love and emotional pain? When she saw her daughter ~ Brinley?

I believe her problem is psychopathic who doesn't have an ounce of conscience.

Imo, that part was a concocted lie. She never touched either one in order to save them. If she broke a sweat it may have been from aggravation they weren't dying quick enough.

I think there is one or two possibilities. 1. They were so terrified of mommy dearest they did as she demanded, and stood on the chairs letting her put the mechanism around their necks. 2. She evilly tricked them both into thinking it was some kind of game.

To do what she did she has to be diabolically evil.

It makes me shudder to think of what else she had done to all three of her children in their lives before she murdered her two youngest children.

They both had to be terrified knowing it wasn't a game at all but couldnt do anything to save themselves or Conner knowing he wouldn't be able to save his little sister either.

Jmho

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Tried to put together a timeline based on the Affidavit:

Three Weeks prior to Sept 23 incident: Defendant came over and told Witness 1 and her mother that she is depressed and can't get out of bed and does not care anymore about her kids.
Sept 3 at 03:03 - text, "He's eating...."
Sept 3 at 03:05 - text, "He keeps moving..."
Sept 3 at 11:28 - photo with dog
Sept 3 at 21:23 - text, "He did good..."
Sept 15 at 23:29 - Text, "Sorry...kid problems"
Sept 15 at 23:30 - Text, "Major kid problems"
Sept 16 - Witness 1 received text message that Victim 2 was suicidal. Witness 1 said they picked up Victim 2 from school that day and he was fine, laughing and sitting with friends when picked up.
Sept 17 at 07:21 - Text, "Things are bad.... Bullying... I just wanna cry."
Sept 17 at 11:14 - Text, "Oh Daddy ... just took good pics for you..."
Sept 17 at 22:21 - internet search, "carbon monoxide in a car how long to die"
Sept 18 at 23:10 - Sent 2 pictures with the dog, another picture in lingerie
Sept 18 at 23:27 - Text, "He actually went for it..."
Sept 18 at 23:27 - Text, "Laying"
Sept 19 at 21:24 - Text, "You'll hopefully see Sunday"
Sept 19 at 21:25 - Text,"Just found out [] goes to work ... gonna be mom ... she's a ***** when it comes to babysitting"
Sept 20 at 18:58 - internet search, ""almost got away with it" and "almost got away with it best episodes"
Sept 22 at 11:19am - internet search, "hanging yourself" and "short drop/simple suspension" describes effective way to hang someone
Sept 22 - placed order for dog lead online at Walmart
Sept 23 at 09:30 - online pick up of dog lead
Sept 23 at 11:27 - internet search, "do a hybrid car produce carbon monoxide"
Sept 23 at 11:28 - internet search, "do a hybrid car produce carbon monoxide while idling"
Sept 23 at 15:49 - Connor arrives home from school on the school bus (video)
Sept 23 at 16:30 - called 911 to report the hangings
Sept 23 - questioned about cell phone (--2280), said she left it at the residence.
Sept 25 - provided police with new cell phone (--8419) which was also used to place Walmart online order.
Oct 4 - defendant claims she lost Galaxy Note 9 phone, although 5 other cell phones were located, one which included 8419, the only activity started after Sept 23.

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/dacopy0340countyofberks.com_20191202_121314.pdf

I appreciate this timeline (thank you, JerseyGirl) as it is so telling of the premeditation. Rethinking, she’s probably the one who took the chairs down. Everything's setup and ready to go. Her mind is prepared. Now, it’s time for action. She’s probably rehearsed it plenty of times. I’d like to know if a tox screen was performed on her at time of initial statement. Though, I haven’t heard anything as of yet re: substance abuse. I suspect so.

 

[squareandrabbet]

I believe her problem is psychopathic who doesn't have an ounce of conscience.

Imo, that part was a concocted lie. She never touched either one in order to save them. If she broke a sweat it may have been from aggravation they weren't dying quick enough.

I think there is one or two possibilities. 1. They were so terrified of mommy dearest they did as she demanded, and stood on the chairs letting her put the mechanism around their necks. 2. She evilly tricked them both into thinking it was some kind of game.

To do what she did she has to be diabolically evil.

It makes me shudder to think of what else she had done to all three of her children in their lives before she murdered her two youngest children.

They both had to be terrified knowing it wasn't a game at all but couldnt do anything to save themselves or Conner knowing he wouldn't be able to save his little sister either.

Jmho

Yeah, whatever she did, she had thoroughly mentally separated herself from the kids and was already alibi-building, up to 2 weeks in advance minimum, IMO. I should think a judge would find it hard to determine her legally insane with all this evidence.

I mean... what an idiot. "I stopped trying to save my precious daughter's life because I get steeped in 'anxiety sweats', and couldn't get a purchase on her." I hope she suffered mightily in her mind when they were in the hospital struggling to survive; but I doubt it. Now I'm doubly convinced that police wanted the X-Box to see who she was messaging with using it, and what was being said.

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

So utterly saddened and sickened by this case and the details. One of those cases that you think you've heard it all and then...

I haven't read all the posts but I just keep thinking about and all those touched by this - their friends and teachers, others who really loved these 2... ugh, how, how, how?... how do does humanity do this and continue to do these kinds of things to each other... so far beyond the pale...

Thanks for all the updates here. Hard to Like every post when they are so filled with awful, awful details... but appreciation to all. Hug those kiddos and doggos.

 

[neesaki]

The Morning Call on Twitter

Mother charged with murder in deaths of children found hanged in basement of Berks County home

“Lisa Rachelle Snyder, 36, was charged Monday with first-degree murder, endangering the welfare of children and sexual intercourse with a dog. A news conference is planned for 2 p.m”

OMG.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I’m a bit confused as I’ve read articles with different descriptions/color markings of dog. Did the family own only one dog?

 

[fred&edna]

Snip:
Sept 19 at 21:24 - Text, "You'll hopefully see Sunday"
Sept 19 at 21:25 - Text,"Just found out [] goes to work ... gonna be mom ... she's a ***** when it comes to babysitting"
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/dacopy0340countyofberks.com_20191202_121314.pdf
Sunday is the 22nd - when she placed Walmart order.

Every time I read more I physically shiver.

 

[JerseyGirl]

I appreciate this timeline (thank you, JerseyGirl) as it is so telling of the premeditation. Rethinking, she’s probably the one who took the chairs down. Everything's setup and ready to go. Her mind is prepared. Now, it’s time for action. She’s probably rehearsed it plenty of times. I’d like to know if a tox screen was performed on her at time of initial statement. Though, I haven’t heard anything as of yet re: substance abuse. I suspect so.

So she picked up the dog lead at 9:30am, obviously came home, then at around 11:30am she searched carbon monoxide, then about 4 hours later Connor came home from school.

Wonder why she searched carbon monoxide after picking up the dog lead.

 

[JerseyGirl]

I’m a bit confused as I’ve read articles with different descriptions/color markings of dog. Did the family own only one dog?

I only saw a reference to a black 50 pound husky-pit bull mix. I think that is the dog LE was looking for. I haven't seen references to other dogs.

 

[oviedo]

So she picked up the dog lead at 9:30am, obviously came home, then at around 11:30am she searched carbon monoxide, then about 4 hours later Connor came home from school.

Wonder why she searched carbon monoxide after picking up the dog lead.

It must have been part of her decision making process - her search was for a hybrid - when they are in electric mode do they emit the deadly carbon monoxide? maybe she discovered they don't and had to go to plan B - the leash? I guess I will search hybrid carbon monoxide....
JMO
ETA:
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-get-carbon-monoxide-poisoning-from-a-hybrid-car
My experience is with the Prius. If you tried the suicide scenario of leaving your vehicle running in a closed garage, it wouldn’t work because the Prius engine doesn’t run unless the gasoline engine is needed to power the car. But if you turned the heater way up, the car would have to run the gas engine to generate the heat, and that would generate Carbon Monoxide.

 

[Kiranerys]

Tried to put together a timeline based on the Affidavit:

Three Weeks prior to Sept 23 incident: Defendant came over and told Witness 1 and her mother that she is depressed and can't get out of bed and does not care anymore about her kids.
Sept 3 at 03:03 - text, "He's eating...."
Sept 3 at 03:05 - text, "He keeps moving..."
Sept 3 at 11:28 - photo with dog
Sept 3 at 21:23 - text, "He did good..."
Sept 15 at 23:29 - Text, "Sorry...kid problems"
Sept 15 at 23:30 - Text, "Major kid problems"
Sept 16 - Witness 1 received text message that Victim 2 was suicidal. Witness 1 said they picked up Victim 2 from school that day and he was fine, laughing and sitting with friends when picked up.
Sept 17 at 07:21 - Text, "Things are bad.... Bullying... I just wanna cry."
Sept 17 at 11:14 - Text, "Oh Daddy ... just took good pics for you..."
Sept 17 at 22:21 - internet search, "carbon monoxide in a car how long to die"
Sept 18 at 23:10 - Sent 2 pictures with the dog, another picture in lingerie
Sept 18 at 23:27 - Text, "He actually went for it..."
Sept 18 at 23:27 - Text, "Laying"
Sept 19 at 21:24 - Text, "You'll hopefully see Sunday"
Sept 19 at 21:25 - Text,"Just found out [] goes to work ... gonna be mom ... she's a ***** when it comes to babysitting"
Sept 20 at 18:58 - internet search, ""almost got away with it" and "almost got away with it best episodes"
Sept 22 at 11:19am - internet search, "hanging yourself" and "short drop/simple suspension" describes effective way to hang someone
Sept 22 - placed order for dog lead online at Walmart
Sept 23 at 09:30 - online pick up of dog lead
Sept 23 at 11:27 - internet search, "do a hybrid car produce carbon monoxide"
Sept 23 at 11:28 - internet search, "do a hybrid car produce carbon monoxide while idling"
Sept 23 at 15:49 - Connor arrives home from school on the school bus (video)
Sept 23 at 16:30 - called 911 to report the hangings
Sept 23 - questioned about cell phone (--2280), said she left it at the residence.
Sept 25 - provided police with new cell phone (--8419) which was also used to place Walmart online order.
Oct 4 - defendant claims she lost Galaxy Note 9 phone, although 5 other cell phones were located, one which included 8419, the only activity started after Sept 23.

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/dacopy0340countyofberks.com_20191202_121314.pdf

5 phones!!!! Who the hell needs 5 phones??, I'm really starting to wonder what this woman was involved in!

 

[Kadoober]

I only saw a reference to a black 50 pound husky-pit bull mix. I think that is the dog LE was looking for. I haven't seen references to other dogs.

I was wondering if there was another dog as well, because she mentions that she went outside for a smoke and to take the dog out, while Conner was supposedly killing himself and Brinley. Where's that dog?

 

[TTF14]

5 phones!!!! Who the hell needs 5 phones??, I'm really starting to wonder what this woman was involved in!

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I am assuming they weren't all connected to a phone number, but some were used only where WiFi was present.....but that's just my assumption. Still, I only use one . There are a couple of dead ones lying around the house here, though, so I suppose I could charge them up and use the WiFi if I had to.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I only saw a reference to a black 50 pound husky-pit bull mix. I think that is the dog LE was looking for. I haven't seen references to other dogs.

***In their application for one of the search warrants, police said they were seeking a husky pit bull mix, weighing approximately 50 pounds, that the mother told them used to be tied outside the home with a plastic-coated wire.

"By determining the dogs (sic) actual weight and sized (sic) utilizing a scale will assist in the criminal investigation," Pennsylvania State Police Trooper Ian Keck said in the warrant application. "All of this is important to the criminal investigation and reconstruction of the events surrounding this incident."

The dog, however, had been given away, Keck said.
Court papers shed light on probe of Berks siblings' deaths


***According to court records, in the weeks leading up to the children’s deaths, Snyder sent at least three sexually explicit photos of herself engaged in sexual acts with a black and white dog to an unnamed person. Adams said that the discovery of the dog abuse was something investigators uncovered during the homicide investigation that warranted additional criminal charges.

An Oct, 2 search warrant specifically mentioned a black husky-pit bull mix weighing 50 pounds. Adams said Snyder “sent the dog away,” but it has since been located.
'It hits us in the heart’: Pennsylvania mom charged with murder, accused of hanging her children


***Court documents indicate that investigators found evidence, including photos with a black and white dog, in some of Snyder’s emails that led to charges of animal cruelty and sexual intercourse with a dog.

Police began searching for the family dog shortly after the children’s death. Adams confirmed on Monday that law enforcement did eventually locate the dog alive.
Mother’s disturbing emails & online searches emerge after children, 8 and 4, are found hanging by dog cable in basement: Police