Found Deceased PA - Dakota James, 23, Pittsburgh, 25 Jan 2017 #1

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Who said they lied about everything? I don't think that is the case. I think they did plenty. But they made mistakes and had critical missed opportunities. In addition, the police did state in the 2/27 presser that they did things that the family is clear that they organized and the police did not.

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I seem to remember the police using the passive voice about the drones and possibly the search dogs. So I think they presented these things not as their own actions but as actions as part of a time line.

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There is a local rumor (I am a member of the local gay community) that an individual who owns one or more gay bars in Pittsburgh and is viewed as a community leader...has not been cooperating with the police regarding DK and his associate being in his establishments during the night in question. Whether this is true or if the police are being intentionally vague regarding the timeline of this case is VERY concerning. Are there receipts that will help establish the timeline? Aren't there cameras at these bars? I know several gay bars on Liberty do. Looking for more insight.
Maybe this is the person that Dakota's mother often addressed in her posts. When reading them initially, I assumed she was addressing police. But perhaps she was addressing the owners of those businesses.

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Maybe this is the person that Dakota's mother often addressed in her posts. When reading them initially, I assumed she was addressing police. But perhaps she was addressing the owners of those businesses.

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Oh boy- and this would fit in with a lot of public opinion in other recent cases about bartender staff throwing people out in cold weather..

It would also fit in with much discussion recently about if it is ok for establishments to just toss out people who they overserved ( don't know why I just don't think he was that blasted) and if something happens they risk the hassle of being sued.

Just doing it this way

Family of man killed in crash sues bar that served drunk driver, DOT ...

krqe.com/2016/12/27/family-of-man-killed-sues-bar-that-served-drunk-driver-dot/


Dec 27, 2016 - The family of a young man killed in September in Santa Fe by a woman drunkenly driving the wrong way on I-25 is suing the bar that served ...



"Cocktail Party Animal" Sues Bar For Serving Him Booze & Severing ...

https://consumerist.com/.../cocktail-party-animal-sues-bar-for-serving-him-booze-seve...


Sep 19, 2012 - He'd been guzzling drinks way before he walked into the bar he's ... he was being bounced, his finger was allegedly slammed in the bar door, ...



Why The Law Lets You Sue Bars For Drunk Driving Accidents

www.injuryrelief.com/blog/why-the-law-makes-bars-liable-for-drunks/


Sep 29, 2015 - Why does the law say that bars can be sued fordrunk driving accidents? Texas dram shop attorney Michael Grossman explains. Read more...



When Might a Bar Be Liable for Over-serving Alcohol?

www.slootskylaw.com › ... › AUTO ACCIDENT › WRONGFUL DEATH


Sep 15, 2014 - A bar may be liable for over-serving if a bartender continues to serve drinks to a patron who is very clearly intoxicated to the point that he or she ...



Husband sues drunk driver who killed trooper, bar that served him ...

www.9news.com/news/investigations/husband-sues-drunk...that...bar.../350778678


Nov 10, 2016 - The husband of the Colorado State Trooper killed by a drunk driver in November 2015 while she was directing traffic on Interstate 25 near ...



Can bar bouncers physically throw a drunk out without going to ...

boards.straightdope.com › Straight Dope Message Board › Main › General Questions


Jan 21, 2013 - 41 posts - ‎30 authors
Can a bar bouncer grab some drunk and run him out the door .... (I've never been a bouncer, owned a bar, been bounced out of a bar ... Bouncers don't want to use excessive force because they do get sued from time to time.



Beer Pong 'Winner' Tries to Sue Bar After Getting Run Over - Legally ...

blogs.findlaw.com/.../beer-pong-winner-tries-to-sue-bar-after-getting-run-over.html


Feb 7, 2012 - Participants bounce the ping pong ball into cups containing beer. If a ball ... Drunk Beer Pong "Winner" Tries ToSue Bar After Getting Run Over ...



Behind Bars: The Straight-Up Tales of a Big-City Bartender

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0312311036
Ty Wenzel - 2004 - ‎Biography & Autobiography
I waited months to hear that I was being sued or arrested for negligence or involuntary assault or whatever term is used for being ... Drunks bounce off the walls.



Nightclub / Bouncer Liability | LegalMatch Law Library

www.legalmatch.com › ... › Intentional Injuries › Assault and Battery - Victim

Jul 14, 2014 - ... eject a customer who becomes drunk or obnoxious, any more than a waiter ... to also include the employer (i.e. the nightclub), in your lawsuit.






 
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Maybe this is the person that Dakota's mother often addressed in her posts. When reading them initially, I assumed she was addressing police. But perhaps she was addressing the owners of those businesses.

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Maybe there will be a law suit down the road...


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Joey I am just confused. If I dropped dead from an overdose , and LE is notified within 6 hours, and helicopters are flying everywhere how do I get I found a month and half later with no water in me??

If I was submerged dead for a month some water would get in even I was already dead no?

Maybe not the quantity of breathing, but a month and a half water would seep in.

it indicates very recent "placement"

NO water is somewhat telling

As far as Joey goes its over they are no longer doing anything -- its been a year--- it goes down in history as undetermined despite the fact that he shows up in a place they have searched several times weeks apart with no water in his body. IMO that is a dump.........................

IMO only

Statistics and facts are good things.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15577518

bbm

BACKGROUND:
Drowning without aspiration of liquid, generally attributed to death from asphyxia while submerged and in laryngospasm, has been reported to occur in approximately 10% to 15% of drowning victims.

OBJECTIVES:
The occurrence of "dry-drowning" recently has been questioned and the hypothesis developed that "dry-lungs" in bodies found dead in the water could conceal more natural deaths than previously recognized.

Don't be so quick to rule JL's death a homicide.
 
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Thinking about how one would go about successfully abducting random, unknown men in their 20s, I imagine that I would prefer them to be intoxicated (so their reflexes may not be as quick, their reasoning slower, and their inhibitions down). I'd scope out a populated place but one that is off the beaten path and where I can easily see where the cameras are. I'd wait with my car nearby, on a not-freezing-cold night, and keep my eyes peeled for someone that I could corner. Maybe I'd have a badge and say I was an undercover cop and I was arresting them for public intoxication and urination. I'd bind their hands and lead them over to my car, just as a cop would, bundle them in, lock the doors, and drive off.

I have absolutely no evidence that this has occurred in any of the cases, but it's something to consider.

Good thinking. At that thought, they should scope out the cameras for cars that look similar to cop cars.


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