PA PA - District Attorney Ray Gricar Mysteriously Disappeared - Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 *NamUs #MP1982* #18

[Same Old Stella]

This podcast is the first good news we've had in a while on the Gricar case. I've listened to the first 4 episodes but will finish the others tomorrow as I'm starting to nod off. That is if my computer fix isn't temporary.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

This podcast is the first good news we've had in a while on the Gricar case. I've listened to the first 4 episodes but will finish the others tomorrow as I'm starting to nod off. That is if my computer fix isn't temporary.

Knight has not updated anything in several years.

 

[Betty P]

Knight has not updated anything in several years.

I think its been a couple of years.

She's still writing and reporting on other subjects. Here's a link to a recent article of hers that appeared in the Harvard Business Review

The Delicate Politics of Hiring Someone from Another Team

You have an opening, and you know exactly who you want: that person on another team who always seems to get it. But before you make a move, you need to navigate some complications. Due diligence is tricky when everyone involved still works together. Then there’s the organizational politics: You...

hbr.org

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I think its been a couple of years.

She's still writing and reporting on other subjects. Here's a link to a recent article of hers that appeared in the Harvard Business Review

The Delicate Politics of Hiring Someone from Another Team

You have an opening, and you know exactly who you want: that person on another team who always seems to get it. But before you make a move, you need to navigate some complications. Due diligence is tricky when everyone involved still works together. Then there’s the organizational politics: You...

hbr.org

That is not the same Rebecca Knight.

The one that did the podcast lives in CA

 

[Betty P]

That is not the same Rebecca Knight.

The one that did the podcast lives in CA

Ok. Are you sure? Who is she, then. I assume she's a journalist.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Ok. Are you sure? Who is she, then. I assume she's a journalist.

She isn't. I know her slightly.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I think its been a couple of years.

She's still writing and reporting on other subjects. Here's a link to a recent article of hers that appeared in the Harvard Business Review

The Delicate Politics of Hiring Someone from Another Team

You have an opening, and you know exactly who you want: that person on another team who always seems to get it. But before you make a move, you need to navigate some complications. Due diligence is tricky when everyone involved still works together. Then there’s the organizational politics: You...

hbr.org

I just checked, she has not does a podcast since May of 2022.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Nothing new, but pretty well done:

 

[J. J. in Phila]

One think he did add. In 2014 a woman, Elizabeth Dorsaneo, drown in a boating accident in the lower Susquehanna with her boyfriend. The boat and the boyfriend's body was found, but not hers.

 

[wibbleflea]

Nothing new, but pretty well done:

One YouTube commenter says "footage DOES exist of Gricar with the "unknown" dark-haired woman in the Street of Shops. I saw the footage on local TV @ the time. As quickly as it was shown it was WIPED from all sources (internet, TV etc.) Somebody may have it but I unfortunately don't. It might be worth seeking out."

Another says "my mother and her friend saw Ray Gricar in the antique shop the day of his appearance. She still brings it up to this day and how people seemed to be following him in the store."

 

[J. J. in Phila]

One YouTube commenter says "footage DOES exist of Gricar with the "unknown" dark-haired woman in the Street of Shops. I saw the footage on local TV @ the time. As quickly as it was shown it was WIPED from all sources (internet, TV etc.) Somebody may have it but I unfortunately don't. It might be worth seeking out."

Another says "my mother and her friend saw Ray Gricar in the antique shop the day of his appearance. She still brings it up to this day and how people seemed to be following him in the store."

The video has never been mentioned or suggested and there were no cameras there.

No one else reported "following," but a lot reported seeing him.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

There are three key points (so far) on RFG's financials:

1. RFG paid capital gains tax in 2004-5. The tax was in excess of $10 K. At the tax rates at the time, this would be a profit of $65,000+. This would mean he liquidated something, e.g. stocks, got the purchase price plus $65 K. If he did really well and doubled his money, he would have a total $130,000 minus the $10,000 tax. If he just made a 50% profit, he would have $195,000 minus the tax ($10,000), or $185,000.

Selling his house, as his residence for more that a year, would have the first $200 k is profit exempt. The house was sold for less than $200,000 net, as it still had a mortgage.

2. RFG's check register showed that he was making telephone transfers from his "SAV" account to "VG." There is no account under his SSN, nor did PEF know anything about it. VG is the banking preface for the British Virgin Island.

3. At some point, a check was written on RFG's account for $10,000 to cash. That is the maximum amount that someone can get in cash (except for some businesses), without it triggering Treasury reports. We know that this was not part of the car payment for the Mini, as RFG wrote a check for $25 k for that.

 

[minazoe]

weird.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

weird.

Not weird, if this was someone planning to leave the country, clandestinely.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Another one:

It is well balanced, but the guy cannot pronounce Gricar (GrEE -Ker) or Bellefonte (Bell Font).

He also said that there was no financial trail. At this point, there is prima facie evidence that there is.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

A very bad podcast series from last year: The Path Went Chilly | iHeart

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I have mentioned this case before, but RFG conduct is very damning: Subramanyam Vedam | National Registry of Exonerations

This could obviously be a motive for walkaway or even suicide. I did not realize the extent and that he tried Vadum twice.

 

[Rikissa]

His NamUs page:

Missing Person / NamUs #MP1982

View NamUs missing person case MP1982 for Ray Frank Gricar missing from Bellefonte, Pennsylvania. Date of last contact: Apr 15, 2005. NCMEC case number: --.

namus.nij.ojp.gov

 

[Sleuth2010]

This man deserves a Memorial…something really nice.

 

[Betty P]

I have mentioned this case before, but RFG conduct is very damning: Subramanyam Vedam | National Registry of Exonerations

This could obviously be a motive for walkaway or even suicide. I did not realize the extent and that he tried Vadum twice.

The exoneration above didn’t happen until several years after Gricar disappeared.

We keep hearing both arguments from people who insist Gricar didn’t meet with foul play. You argue that evidence shows he disappeared on purpose and also that he committed suicide. Which is it? He couldn’t have done both. What do you believe the preponderance of the evidence shows?