PA - Five girls dead, 5 injured in Amish school shooting, 2 Oct 2006

[Floh]

"the daughter of this crazy minister" never stood a chance. she must have been brainwashed since birth and is a product of her upbringing. she's to be pitied for the pathetic human being she is.

 

[christine2448]

Anyone who is a baptist should be hammering the baptist convention to make sure these people are not charter members and to make sure they receive nothing from the national convention. The president of the baptist convention needs to come out and make a very public statement that these people do not represent the baptist faith in any way. I have been dumbfounded by the collective silence of the baptist church in this matter.
I am not a baptist, but I guaruntee that if these people called themselves catholic or presbyterian or methodist someone somewhere would be screaming "no way, these people don't represent us!"
The cry of millions of baptists in this united states of america should be loud and deafening.

No kidding! I am also shocked, I have never heard of this group, but I can tell you, no baptist I know hates ANYONE, and this is just terrible behavior. This is a horrible cult, not baptist, that is just a front, IMO.

 

[Indy Gal]

I don't like Fox, but they have done a good deed this time. I noticed that the air time is radio instead of tv. That is also good.

i was about to write that exact statement....great job fox

 

[PlasmaFiend024]

Okay, sorry I got so bothered by the comment. It just seemed like you were pointing out the fact that he was homeschooled, like it is some evil thing. There was a situation here in Indiana in the past year where some young man and his girlfriend ran off and got into some major problems with the law. The one thing the news kept saying over and over was the fact that he was homeschooled. I have met homeschooled kids who are the most well adjusted kids I know, and I have met kids who attend the public schools, and they are social misfits. (Take a look at the killers of the Columbine killing...both of them attended the school there, but they were still social "outcasts").

My heart goes out to the victims of another senseless tragedy here. I imagine the Amish community must be shocked beyond all belief in how their world has been forever changed.

youre opinion.but homeschooling is not best for everyone.heres a link for ya..http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0006/02/cf.00.html

 

[BarnGoddess]

As to why I searched his sight, it was to see what convoluted, assinine, off the wall reason he could come up with to justify protesting this funeral. I wasn't fully aware of his hatred for the Pennsylvania governor.

We all need to be aware of groups like this. IMO, this so-called Baptist church is nothing but a cult.

 

[Sundayrain]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html

They bargained with Fox News for one hour of air time in exchange for promising not to protest at the funerals.

I love FOX and if this is what they did.......I LOVE them more.
Don't forget they have Americas Most Wanted ,and they came through for us with a missing one, in an instant. All of their News people and shows do a great job. If this works then more power to them.......Love You Fox!

 

[deespoohbear]

youre opinion.but homeschooling is not best for everyone.heres a link for ya..http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0006/02/cf.00.html

Well, public education doesn't seem to be the answer for all the world's problems either.

If people are screwed up in the head, they are screwed up in the head. It doesn't matter if they are publically educated or if they are homeschooled. If they are going to snap, they are going to snap.

The question at hand now is how to protect ALL of our children...public, private, and homeschooled.

 

[shdbepaintin]

I just heard on Abc Evening News that one of the Families of one of the little girls has reached out and invited the Family of the shooter to attend the funeral and grieve with them.

So much faith, trust and compassion. I am impressed and moved beyond words.

 

[deespoohbear]

I just heard on Abc Evening News that one of the Families of one of the little girls has reached out and invited the Family of the shooter to attend the funeral and grieve with them.

So much faith, trust and compassion. I am impressed and moved beyond words.

I am not surprised. The Amish are not vengeful. I had read that a member of the Amish community has already visited with the wife of the shooter to comfort her.

 

[Texana]

One of these days Fred and his daughter Shirley (Phelps) are going to meet up with the God whose opinions and name they throw around so freely, and it is not going to be a pretty sight...

 

[deespoohbear]

One of these days Fred and his daughter Shirley (Phelps) are going to meet up with the God whose opinions and name they throw around so freely, and it is not going to be a pretty sight...

Yeah, that will be quite the shock for that bunch. And it will be just a little too late for explaining things then! :furious:

 

[Shadow205]

I have heard several times on FOX news this morning that another child has been removed from life support. They are saying that the family is taking her home to die. I cannot find a link to this information. I know there was a mention of this yesterday too.

eta: I found a link

Girl to Be Taken Off Life Support

As the Amish gathered Thursday to bury four of the five young girls who were shot to death inside their Lancaster County schoolhouse this week, one of the five girls injured in the shootings was being taken off life support to come home to die.

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The country coroner, G. Gary Kirchner, said he was contacted Tuesday by a doctor at Penn State Children's Hospital in Hershey who said doctors were planning to take one victim off life support so that she could be brought home. He said he was told Dr. D. Holmes Morton, who runs a clinic that serves Amish children, would be the clinician in charge.

Morton said Thursday that published reports that a 6-year-old had been taken off life-support and taken home to die were accurate "as far as I know."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217941,00.html

 

[cheko1]

I have heard several times on FOX news this morning that another child has been removed from life support. They are saying that the family is taking her home to die. I cannot find a link to this information. I know there was a mention of this yesterday too.

Shadow I also heard this on Fox news.

 

[Shadow205]

Shadow I also heard this on Fox news.

I edited my post above after finding an article and link.
So sad that another little girl is going to die.

 

[cheko1]

Shadow, I thought they said 1 was taken off life support yesterday to be taken home. Then 1 was taken home today but I may of been mistaken. Was that your understanding too? Could be the same child.

 

[2luvmy]

Just a simple question...I read in one of the articles that a boy was riding a bike, but the pedals were removed and therefore he was basically pushing it along. Can someone tell me what the Amish belief or rationale for removing pedals is? I was just curious.

 

[christine2448]

Someone mentioned this earlier, wondering if any were related, I'm not sure if someone answered that question, sadly, yes, I see on CNN article 2 sisters, Mary Liz Miller, 8; and her sister Lena Miller, 7, will be buried today This poor family, losing 2 daughters at one time, I can't even begin to imagine losing one, but two. This is a sad day for everyone.

 

[anneoakley63]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217760,00.html

:furious:

 

[anneoakley63]

I didn't really this was already being discussed in another forum. It can be removed if the mods would like.

 

[Shadow205]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=+1]Anna Mae Stoltzfus
[/size][/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Published: Oct 04, 2006 EST

[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Anna Mae Stoltzfus

Anna Mae Stoltzfus, 12 year old daughter of Christ K. and Lizzie L. Allgyer Stoltzfus, of 1931 Mine Rd., Paradise, died Monday October 2, 2006

Anna Mae was a 7th grader at West Nickel Mine Parochial School, Paradise and attended the Old Order Amish Church.

Surviving in addition to her parents are: six brothers, Christ Jr., Samuel, Paul, Leon, John, and Steven Stoltzfus all at home; one sister, Sarah Ann Stoltzfus at home; paternal grandparents, Samuel and Lydia Stoltzfus of Quarryville; and maternal grandparents, John and Sarah Allgyer of Coatesville.

Funeral services will be held at the Ivan Petersheim residence, Mine Rd., Paradise, on Friday at 9:00 a.m. (EST). Interment in Bart Cemetery, Georgetown. Friends may call at the late home from the time of this notice until the time of the service.

Please omit flowers. Contributions for all victims may be sent to Nickel Mine School Victims Fund, c/o Hometown Heritage Bank, P.O. Box 337, Strasburg, PA 17579.

Furman Home for Funerals, Leola, Pa. [/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=+1]Marian S. Fisher
[/size][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Published: Oct 04, 2006 EST

[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Marian S. Fisher

Marian S. Fisher, 13 year old daughter of John S. and Linda Stoltzfus Fisher, of 1977 Mine Rd., Paradise, died Monday, October 2, 2006.

Marian was an 8th grader at West Nickel Mine Parochial School, Paradise and attended the Old Order Amish Church.

Surviving in addition to her parents are: four brothers, Christ, Elmer, Reuben, and Daniel Fisher all at home; two sisters, Barbara and Emma Fisher both at home; paternal grandparents, Reuben B. and Emma Stoltzfus Fisher of Paradise; maternal grandparents, Christ and Katie Stoltzfus Stoltzfus of Leola; paternal great-grandmother, Lizzie S. Fisher of Paradise; and maternal great-grandparents, Jonas and Annie Stoltzfus of Honey Brook.

Funeral services will be held at the late home on Thursday 12:00 p.m. (EST). Interment in Bart Cemetery, Georgetown. Friends may call at the late home from the time of this notice until the time of the service.

Please omit flowers. Contributions for all victims may be sent to Nickel Mine School Victims Fund, c/o Hometown Heritage Bank, P.O. Box 337, Strasburg, PA 17579.

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=+1]Naomi Rose Ebersol
[/size][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Published: Oct 04, 2006 EST

[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Naomi Rose Ebersol

Naomi Rose Ebersol, 7 year old daughter of Amos and Katie Ann Fisher Ebersol, of 1921 Mine Rd., Paradise, died Monday, October 2, 2006.

Naomi was a 2nd grade student at West Nickel Mine Parochial School, Paradise and attended the Old Order Amish Church.

Surviving in addition to her parents are: five brothers, Marcus, Ervin, James, Amos Jr., and Marvin Ebersol all at home; paternal grandparents, Isaiah and Malinda King Ebersol of Leola; and maternal grandparents, Levi and Naomi Beiler Fisher of Bird-in-Hand.

Funeral services will be held at the late home on Thursday at 8:00 a.m. (EST). Interment in Bart Cemetery, Georgetown. Friends may call at the late home from the time of this notice until the time of the service.

Please omit flowers. Contributions for all victims may be sent to Nickel Mine School Victims Fund, c/o Hometown Heritage Bank, P.O. Box 337, Strasburg, PA 17579.

Furman Home for Funerals, Leola, Pa. [/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=+1]Mary Liz and Lena Z. Miller
[/size][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Published: Oct 04, 2006 EST

[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Mary Liz and Lena Z. Miller

Mary Liz Miller, 8, and Lena Z. Miller, 7, daughters of Christ and Rachel Zook Miller, of 5070 White Oak Road, Paradise, passed away on Tuesday morning from injuries sustained from the incident in Nickel Mines Monday. Mary passed away at Christiana Hospital, Delaware, and Lena passed away at Hershey Medical Center. Both girls were born in Paradise and attended the Old Order Amish Church.

Surviving besides their parents are one sister: Susan Miller and two brothers: Lester and Abram Miller, all at home; maternal grandparents: Elmer and Mary Petersheim Zook of Drumore; and paternal grandparents: Enos and Rebecca Fisher Miller of Paradise.

Funeral service will take place on Thursday, October 5th at 1 p.m. Standard Time from their late home, 5070 White Oak Road, Paradise. Friends may call at the home from the time of this notice until time of service. Interment will be in the Bart Amish Cemetery.

Contributions for all victims may be sent to Nickel Mines School Victims Fund, Homtown Heritage Bank, PO Box 337, Strasburg, PA 17579. Arrangements by the Shivery Funeral Home, Christiana, Pa. [/font]

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http://obits.lancasteronline.com/index.php?action=view&obit_id=1749455

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Here I go quoting myself again. I wanted to bring these obits back to the top of the thread. If you click on the link under each one you can read or sign the guest books.

cheko1, in answer to your question, from what I can find, it looks like it is the same little girl.