PA - Kaiyah Beck, 2, dies of head trauma, Pittsburgh, 29 Nov 2009

  • #41
I completely agree about the BF. Seeing as he abused a prior GF just months before. no way she knew him enough to leave the most important gifts she had her children with him.
As for bingo I loved going to bingo at that age. I left my children with their father though..

I'm glad that worked out well for you. Sadly, a brief spin through the pages of Websleuths tells us this doesn't work out well for everyone. In my own life, I know of more than one situation where a child I care about is in better hands with a boyfriend than with his/her bio Dad.

I'm of the belief that most parents do their best to leave their children in safe hands. Without a lot more information, I cannot throw stones at the Mom in this case. My prayers go out to her.
 
  • #42
it's sad this had to happen. But it's still allegedly that this 20 year old is guilty.

Sorry I just respectfully have to disagree to a few things I've seen written here.

My babysitter's son is young, like me, and he takes wonderful care of the children in the daycare when she's out.

I think it's just silly that everyone is attacking 20 year old boyfriends and her judgment. Has there been something I missed that spoke about the mom knowing her boyfriend could cause harm to the child? Do we know if they have been dating for a few years or not? Abuse happens from HUSBANDS as well as boyfriends. And some people don't believe in marriage so their boyfriends are just like husbands. I think that it is just silly to think once you're married it's okay to let your husband watch your children but not your boyfriend. I let my boyfriend watch my child. I use my judgment as best as I can. Just like I use my judgment when I leave my child in a daycare. I can't take him to work with me. And there are times in my life my child has to go to people I use my judgment to take care of him. I don't think it's the mother's fault at all at this point. Unless she saw and knew he was a danger to her children and knew he wasn't capable of watching them. If you really think a label is going to change who a person is towards your children, I just personally think that is silly. If someone is capable of hurting a child, it probably isn't going to matter if they are the biological father or the stand-in father.

Just my honest opinion. Again I mean no disrespect.
 
  • #43
it's sad this had to happen. But it's still allegedly that this 20 year old is guilty.

Sorry I just respectfully have to disagree to a few things I've seen written here.

My babysitter's son is young, like me, and he takes wonderful care of the children in the daycare when she's out.

I think it's just silly that everyone is attacking 20 year old boyfriends and her judgment. Has there been something I missed that spoke about the mom knowing her boyfriend could cause harm to the child? Do we know if they have been dating for a few years or not? Abuse happens from HUSBANDS as well as boyfriends. And some people don't believe in marriage so their boyfriends are just like husbands. I think that it is just silly to think once you're married it's okay to let your husband watch your children but not your boyfriend. I let my boyfriend watch my child. I use my judgment as best as I can. Just like I use my judgment when I leave my child in a daycare. I can't take him to work with me. And there are times in my life my child has to go to people I use my judgment to take care of him. I don't think it's the mother's fault at all at this point. Unless she saw and knew he was a danger to her children and knew he wasn't capable of watching them. If you really think a label is going to change who a person is towards your children, I just personally think that is silly. If someone is capable of hurting a child, it probably isn't going to matter if they are the biological father or the stand-in father.

Just my honest opinion. Again I mean no disrespect.

Great post and I totally agree. We have a tendency to jump from "allegedly" to "all the adults failed this child" too quickly, IMHO.
 
  • #44
I suppose it's possible the mother wasn't aware of his violent streak and past. But, I'm sorry, I don't know many 20-year-old guys who are mature enough and equipped to care for 2-year-old triplets. In fact, I have a 20-year-old daughter who would probably be pulling her hair out after 15 minutes! But she would never hurt a child. Ever.

I'm 40 years old and I can barely handle my 3 year old twins and my 4 year old!:innocent:
 
  • #45
What's up with this? I wonder why the mom called a neighbor to check on them.

Detective Dale Canofari said the first call for medical assistance was made at 8:14 p.m. by Constance Johnson, a neighbor of Ms. Yali's. Ms. Johnson had received a call from Ms. Yali asking her to check on the children.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09337/1018101-53.stm#ixzz0YgoX4pMR
 
  • #46
I'm glad that worked out well for you. Sadly, a brief spin through the pages of Websleuths tells us this doesn't work out well for everyone. In my own life, I know of more than one situation where a child I care about is in better hands with a boyfriend than with his/her bio Dad.

I'm of the belief that most parents do their best to leave their children in safe hands. Without a lot more information, I cannot throw stones at the Mom in this case. My prayers go out to her.

I agree with you SCM. I always knew my own babies were NOT necessarily in better hands with their bio dad - my ex-husband. I either took them with me wherever I went or left them with my own Mommy. However, I can honestly say I never would have left them with a 20-Y-O BF. Ever.

My now hubby has always been a better Dad to my children than their bio father and has NEVER raised a hand or his voice in anger to them - ever. And he legally adopted them many years ago. I know I'm very lucky, but I wouldn't have left them alone with him when they were little bitty either. And that was looooooong before I started hanging around here!

The bottom line is, mothers need to be hyper-vigilent when it comes to the care of their babies. The maternal instinct is so powerful, yet there seem to be so many mothers lacking that instinct these days.

This mother will have to live with her poor judgement for the rest of her life. She may not be directly responsible for the death of one of her precious daughters, but she should not be let off the hook entirely, IMO.
 
  • #47
The mother already knew (didn't she?) that he had been violent previously. That, to me, means she ignored a glaringly obvious sign he had a temper and was willing to batter someone who made him mad.

How annoying and persistently aggravating can three toddlers be? Did she think they'd sit quietly with hands folded while she was away? NO she didn't think at all, except about how much she wanted to play bingo.

Three toddlers would strain the patience of Mother Theresa. She didn't leave houseplants with someone who she was pretty sure would water them now and then. If they die in someone else's care you can get new ones.

ANY person of any age with a quick temper and the willingness to smack someone around because of it is enough information for the average person to think twice about leaving tremendously, naturally aggravating TODDLERS with. Even if they were the biological children. None of the rest of it matters but taking responsibility, for the safety of your children, not living in la la land (read: he would never do that to ME/THEM, that other woman must have deserved it)
 
  • #48
The mother already knew (didn't she?) that he had been violent previously. That, to me, means she ignored a glaringly obvious sign he had a temper and was willing to batter someone who made him mad.

How annoying and persistently aggravating can three toddlers be? Did she think they'd sit quietly with hands folded while she was away? NO she didn't think at all, except about how much she wanted to play bingo.

Three toddlers would strain the patience of Mother Theresa. She didn't leave houseplants with someone who she was pretty sure would water them now and then. If they die in someone else's care you can get new ones.

ANY person of any age with a quick temper and the willingness to smack someone around because of it is enough information for the average person to think twice about leaving tremendously, naturally aggravating TODDLERS with. Even if they were the biological children. None of the rest of it matters but taking responsibility, for the safety of your children, not living in la la land (read: he would never do that to ME/THEM, that other woman must have deserved it)

It doesn't appear there are any statements if the mom knew about the boyfriend's history of the warrant that claimed he abused a previous girlfriend. I haven't seen any statements other then she left to go play BINGO.

I'm hoping for so more updates in this case to see what was going on.
 
  • #49
Police told Channel 4 Action News that when George realized one of the children wasn't breathing, he called the girl's mother, rather than 911. Police said the mother called a neighbor to check on her kids and the neighbor then called 911. It's not known how long the child wasn't breathing before emergency crews were called.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/allegheny/21781736/detail.html
 
  • #50
WHY did the mother call the neighbor BEFORE calling 911??? I know why AG didn't, because he knew he had done something horribly wrong. But, WHY didn't the mom call emergency personnel before calling the neighbor?

Regardless of a person's age or relationship to you, you DON'T leave your babies with someone you barely know or barely trust, boyfriend, family or otherwise, PERIOD. Even if they treat your babies like angels when you're around, it doesn't mean they do when you're not! I find it extremely hard to believe that there were no red flags for this young mother prior to this incident. A MOTHER'S INSTINCTS always tell the truth, if you listen. Even if your instincts end up being wrong, it's never wrong to put your child and their safety first. It was extremely irresponsible of her to leave the care of her babies up to this boy. Now she knows, I pray she learned. Hopefully, she has also learned that 911 are the FIRST numbers to dial when someone reports to you that your child may be dying!

:angel:R.I.P. Little Kaiyah:angel:
 
  • #51
So single mothers are not allowed to go play bingo?
Most boyfriends are not monsters like this one.

Of course single mothers are allowd to go to bingo, BUT this guy was
having other problems WITH THE LAW and was not a good babysitter!!
 
  • #52
Police told Channel 4 Action News that when George realized one of the children wasn't breathing, he called the girl's mother, rather than 911. Police said the mother called a neighbor to check on her kids and the neighbor then called 911. It's not known how long the child wasn't breathing before emergency crews were called.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/allegheny/21781736/detail.html


Thank you for this link. I was wondering about this last night when I read that the mom had called her neighbor to check on her kids.

WHY, WHY, WHY was 911 not called first??????
 
  • #53
Update: "Mike Manko, a spokesman for the Allegheny County District Attorney's Office, said 20-year-old Anthony George is still charged with endangering the welfare of a child, but the more serious assault charge was dropped Wednesday because the office 'cannot proceed' with that charge. He did not elaborate."

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/22050049/detail.html

:waitasec:
 
  • #54
Update: "Mike Manko, a spokesman for the Allegheny County District Attorney's Office, said 20-year-old Anthony George is still charged with endangering the welfare of a child, but the more serious assault charge was dropped Wednesday because the office 'cannot proceed' with that charge. He did not elaborate."

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/22050049/detail.html

:waitasec:

Whaaaaaat? I thought the injuries were not consistent with falling down the stairs...I hope we get some explanation.
 
  • #55
Dear Lord - what is this world coming to? My first though before reading thru the thread was "well, of course there should be gates at the top and bottom of the stairs for these little tots". If not, any one of them could fall. Then reading all 3 fell - well, my hinky meter went through the roof.

I'm sooo sorry 1 of them died - that's heartwrenching. Have the other 2 children been released to the mom. I hope not, since she may or may not have provided a secure home with property security for the children (including that monster of a boyfriend).

Hugs,

Mel
 
  • #56
  • #57
After hearing the magistrate make the significant changes in George’s case, Kaiyah’s mother left the courtroom in distress.

Mother Of Deceased Triplet In Distress After Magistrate Reduces Man’s Charges

http://www.wpxi.com/news/22048446/detail.html
 
  • #58
"Well the case has been under investigation for three weeks now and apparently the medical examiner Karl Williams I think correctly determined that this was not a homicide and therefore it could not legally be an aggravated assault," Pat Thomassey, George's defense attorney, said.


snip

The girls' grandmother is not buying his story.

"I want him to get what's coming to him. He needs to be locked up for what he's done," Felicia Williams said.



http://kdka.com/local/Anthony.George.Triplets.2.1388565.html


So good to see a grandmother standing up for her granddaughter.
 
  • #59
December 2009:

It is difficult for the county agency to determine if Kaiyah’s death is the result of
physical abuse or an accident. The physicians involved with the case are not in
agreement over whether the children’s injuries could have been caused by an
accidental fall down a flight of stairs or if they were a result of abuse, therefore
the status of Allegheny County Children, Youth and Families ( )
He was arrested and charged with Endangering the Welfare of a Child and
Aggravated Assault. The Aggravated Assault charge was later withdrawn.
At the time of the writing of this child fatality review, the two surviving sisters and
the mother are living with a maternal great uncle until they can identify a new
residence. The mother reports that she is no longer involved with ( );
however she is pregnant with his child.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...3XB6GIDUo_tOci2Zg&sig2=EDGPXK0EvCs7DFCyYlDrpw
 
  • #60

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