GUILTY Pa - One Adult, 20 Students Stabbed At Murrysville High School, 9 April 2014

[starviego]

A curious statement by a witness:

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/e...nal-victim/stories/201404240308#ixzz2zxbFsofc
To Derek, the look on Alex's face said: "I don't want to do this, but I have to."

This reminds me of the remarks of Springfield Oregon school shooter Kip Kinkel back in '98, who, when asked why he did it, said "I had to do it, I had no other choice" repeatedly.

 

[Linda7NJ]

A plebian in ancient Rome was a common person.

But it's spelled wrong ...Plebeian is a common person.


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[i.b.nora]

""I can't wait to see the priceless and helpless looks on the faces of the students of one of the 'best schools in Pennsylvania' realize their precious lives are going to be taken by the only one among them that isn't a plebian," the note said."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/25/alex-hribal-kill_n_5214696.html

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plebeian

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plebeian, also spelled Plebian, Latin Plebs, plural Plebes, member of the general citizenry in ancient Rome as opposed to the privileged patrician class.

Either way, I think it means the same thing. Was the note handwritten or done on a computer? Did the reporters see the actual note? Is that how it was spelled in the note? Anyhow, not something I am going to lose sleep over. I think the kid is mentally ill. There must have been some prior signs that went unnoticed or unrecognized.

 

[Linda7NJ]

""I can't wait to see the priceless and helpless looks on the faces of the students of one of the 'best schools in Pennsylvania' realize their precious lives are going to be taken by the only one among them that isn't a plebian," the note said."



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/25/alex-hribal-kill_n_5214696.html



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plebeian



Written by

The Editors of Encyclopædia Britannica



plebeian, also spelled Plebian, Latin Plebs, plural Plebes, member of the general citizenry in ancient Rome as opposed to the privileged patrician class.



Either way, I think it means the same thing. Was the note handwritten or done on a computer? Did the reporters see the actual note? Is that how it was spelled in the note? Anyhow, not something I am going to lose sleep over. I think the kid is mentally ill. There must have been some prior signs that went unnoticed or unrecognized.

Thank you!

I learned something!
It was driving me crazy and I woulda lost sleep over it wondering what the heck he meant!




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[faw720]

On my local news tonight....not sure what channel I had on......WTAE (I was cooking dinner) his attorney is blaming certain people in the schools admin. I guess there was warning signs ignored? What about parents, relatives, friends and neighbors? Did everyone ignor this boy???? He definitely had/has mental problems. JMOO

Sure, blame the school:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:.

Is the attorney implying that it's ok for parents to be in denial about their darling little child???????? This really steams me:tantrum:

 

[faw720]

RSBM

I'm beginning to think that this Hribal may be beyond rehabilitating and may need to be locked up for life ! :maddening:

:moo:

I agree!

 

[HMSHood]

Perfect storm leads to acts of mass violence.

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/he...to-acts-of-mass-violence/stories/201404170196

This is a very interesting & informative article. It shows just how important it is for people to be awake & aware of what is going on around them.

An all too common traits I have seen in rampage killers.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Last Victim of Pennsylvania School Stabbing Spree Leaves Hospital

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/sc...school-stabbing-spree-leaves-hospital-n108351

 

[OkieGranny]

http://www.wtop.com/1459/3710127/School-stabbing-suspect-can-move-to-psych-hospital

A judge has approved moving a 16-year-old boy charged in a high school stabbing rampage to a Pittsburgh-area psychiatric hospital indefinitely after three experts testified he was motivated by the Columbine massacre.

Alex Hribal, of Murrysville, has been held at a juvenile detention center in Westmoreland County since the April 9 attack at Franklin Regional High School.

Hribal's attorney, Patrick Thomassey, has acknowledged the boy stabbed 20 fellow students and a security guard -- all of whom have recovered -- with two 8-inch kitchen knives he sneaked from home. But Thomassey argued the boy needs serious mental health treatment until he stands trial. Prosecutors maintained he could get the care he needed with an outside doctor coming to the detention center.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Columbine-obsessed teen accused of stabbing 21 people at his high school refused admission to EIGHT Pittsburgh-area psychiatric hospitals


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...area-psychiatric-hospitals.html#ixzz3EzOZaeMl

 

[danzn16]

Columbine-obsessed teen accused of stabbing 21 people at his high school refused admission to EIGHT Pittsburgh-area psychiatric hospitals


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...area-psychiatric-hospitals.html#ixzz3EzOZaeMl

This is odd. When I rotated at a mental institution in medical school the only time they turned away patients was if they were not severely mentally ill. They took high profile cases and every patient is a security concern so I'm not sure what's going on here.


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[Indy Anna]

Suspect in Franklin Regional school attack to receive treatment at current facility

Two mental health specialists will visit the Westmoreland County juvenile detention center to treat the teenager awaiting trial on attempted homicide charges in the Franklin Regional High School knife attack.

Common Pleas Judge Christopher Feliciani ​on Tuesday reversed his earlier order that said 17-year-old Alex Hribal could transfer from the center, where he has been held since his April 9 arrest, to a mental health treatment facility.

Read more at ...

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/e...y-Murrysville-Pittsburgh/stories/201410080159

 

[OkieGranny]

http://www.dailyitem.com/news/state...cle_0943adf3-28c4-5fd4-80cd-766b098f1447.html

A 17-year-old boy charged in a stabbing rampage at his high school is responding well to mental health treatment and remains hopeful his criminal charges will be moved to juvenile court, his attorney said Friday...

"This is not a whodunit, obviously," he said after Friday's conference. The key question remains where the boy should be tried and how he should be punished or treated as a result, Thomassey said. A judge gave Thomassey until March 15 to file additional motions, including a request to move the case to juvenile court...

"Alex is doing much better. These professionals are helping him tremendously," Thomassey said. Hribal is also remorseful, though Thomassey said he still doesn't really know what motivated the boy.

 

[OkieGranny]

Trial set for August 1, but it sounds like a plea deal is likely before then:

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/w...l-murrysville-pittsburgh/stories/201606200096

http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/v...30d9016957b45634134/PA--High-School-Stabbings

 

[0101ABA]

A teen who slashed and stabbed 20 fellow high school students and a security guard wants to plead guilty but mentally ill.

Alex Hribal's attorney filed the document Friday, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review first reported.

Defense attorney Patrick Thomassey has acknowledged Hribal committed the attacks at Franklin Regional High School in Murrysville in April 2014, but he has argued it was fueled by the defendant's mental health problems. A judge must hold a hearing and agree that Hribal was mentally ill at time of the crimes in order to accept the plea.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...20-hs-students-plead-guilty-article-1.2731564

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

http://www.wacotrib.com/attorney-teen-to-plead-guilty-but-mentally-ill-in-stabbings/article_4c6bc0bf-8007-5036-afe2-3fed406b4f91.html

A teen charged with slashing and stabbing 20 fellow students and a security guard at a Pennsylvania high school is guilty but was mentally ill during the April 2014 rampage, his defense attorney said again Monday.

Trouble is, a prosecutor insists the teen is just plain guilty and wasn't unduly driven by mental illness. So a judge on Monday said he'll digest testimony from psychological experts and gave attorneys more than 40 days to file written arguments about whether he should accept the teen's proposed plea to 21 counts each of attempted homicide and aggravated assault, plus a school weapons violation.

If the judge eventually accepts that plea, Hribal will be sent to a mental hospital to begin serving what's expected to be decades of incarceration and moved to prison only if doctors determine he's no longer mentally ill. If the judge rejects the plea, defense attorney Patrick Thomassey said he'll let a jury decide whether Hribal is guilty but mentally ill, guilty or not guilty by reason of insanity.

"I tried to settle this thing by pleading guilty but mentally ill, but the DA said 'no,'" Thomassey said. "I think the general public has this idea that if it's 'guilty but mentally ill' that when he's well he gets to go home. He goes to prison. I'm not sure what we're fighting over," Thomassey said.

District Attorney John Peck acknowledged Hribal likely faces a long incarceration whether the judge accepts the plea or Hribal is convicted some other way.

"But in such a serious case, I don't think we should just concede" that Hribal is mentally ill, Peck said. Four of Hribal's victims were critically injured, including one who required a liver transplant, but all survived and have since recovered.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

http://www.wacotrib.com/attorney-teen-to-plead-guilty-but-mentally-ill-in-stabbings/article_4c6bc0bf-8007-5036-afe2-3fed406b4f91.html

I don't believe the Judge will accept this plea.

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

DA against allowing Franklin Regional stabbing suspect to plead guilty but mentally ill - January 11th

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/westmoreland/2017/01/11/DA-against-allowing-Franklin-Regional-stabbing-suspect-to-plead-guilty-but-mentally-ill/stories/201701120020

DA John Peck said Wednesday that the issue isn’t whether Mr. Hribal has mental problems: "The question is whether he can appreciate the wrongfulness of his actions (and whether) he could conform his actions to the law."

"Based on his statement and his behavior, it is clear it was a carefully planned and premeditated crime," Mr. Peck said in an interview.

A guilty but mentally ill plea would allow Mr. Hribal to go to a facility for mental health treatment and then, if his condition improved, he would be transferred to a prison to finish his sentence. A straight guilty conviction would likely send Mr. Hribal to prison. Mr. Thomassey has said that if his client isn’t allowed to plead guilty but mentally ill, he will take the case before a jury.

Mr. Peck said he will press the court for a straight guilty conviction because of the seriousness of the crime.

"He inflicted a tremendous amount of trauma on the victims and their families. A number of them almost lost their child. There were students who were in the hospital in excess of a month — young, healthy people. [Because of the] seriousness of this, the requirements of the law ought to be met," he said.

Judge Feliciani has not said when he plans to rule on the matter.

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

Judge won't permit 'guilty but mentally ill' plea by Hribal

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/north/2017/02/03/Judge-won-t-permit-guilty-but-mentally-ill-plea-by-Hribal/stories/201702030253

A Westmoreland County judge will not allow Alex Hribal to plead “guilty but mentally ill” to charges that he slashed or stabbed 20 fellow students and a security guard at Franklin Regional High School nearly three years ago, setting the stage for a probable trial.

Although the 19-year-old “may have suffered from a psychotic illness,” Common Pleas Judge Christopher A. Feliciani concluded in an opinion and court order Friday, it “did not cause him to substantially lack the capacity to appreciate the wrongfulness of his conduct or conform his behavior to the requirements of the law” on April 9, 2014.

Mr. Hribal’s attorney, Patrick Thomassey, sought the plea because it would have sent Mr. Hribal first to a mental health facility and then to a state prison to complete his sentence, if his condition improves. A defendant must have a “guilty but mentally ill” designation to receive such treatment and “it’s not like he gets the treatment, and he walks out,” Mr. Thomassey said.

“I’m very disappointed. I assume now we’ll proceed to trial, and I’ll see if 12 citizens from Westmoreland County believe he’s mentally ill or not,” he said. “My conscience won’t let me” allow him to plead guilty now.

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

Hribal trial set for August in Franklin Regional knife attack case

http://triblive.com/local/westmoreland/12097772-74/hribal-trial-set-for-august-in-franklin-regional-knife-attack-case

A former Franklin Regional High School student accused of attacking classmates and a security guard in a 2014 knife rampage is scheduled to stand trial in August, a judge ruled Tuesday.

Westmoreland County Common Pleas Judge Christopher Feliciani tentatively set the trial for Alex Hribal to begin Aug. 7 for the start of jury selection.

Defense attorney Pat Thomassey, during a pretrial conference Tuesday, said he may seek to have a jury selected in another county due to publicity generated by the case.

“I haven't decided to file that motion or not, but I think it would be rather difficult to pick a jury in this county,” Thomassey said.

District Attorney John Peck said he will oppose such a request, noting that publicity about the case has waned in the three years since Hribal was arrested.

“We've had cases with far more publicity than this one, and we've had no difficulty picking juries in those cases,” Peck said.