Identified! PA - Perry Co, Rte 322, WhtFem 15-38, 11UFPA, UP5166. turquoise jewelry, clothes, Jun'79 Doris Joanne Girtz

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  • #221
Very glad to see this ID finally happen. As soon as Othram got involved I knew it wasn't if, but when. Isotopes were actually somewhat accurate for once, but I'd say it's more than likely just a coincidence. I'd consider the Carl Koppelman recon the most accurate, but of course, thats just my opinion.
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May be an image of 1 person, bangs and smiling
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Rest in peace, Doris.
Carl your skills are incredible - the resemblance of your recon to Doris is mind blowing . Just echoing a lot of comments on here but I hope you are proud of your efforts and giving these does a fighting chance at being recognised . (First attachment - my quote hasn’t copied Carls recon across )

May Doris rest in peace , I hope the rest of the puzzle is pieced together and justice achieved .
 
  • #222
It looks like there is more information about her and her family on the find a grave site. Linking her to parents and siblings. She had a pretty big family. RIP Doris.

 
  • #223
It looks like there is more information about her and her family on the find a grave site. Linking her to parents and siblings. She had a pretty big family. RIP Doris.


I wonder what happened to her daughter when she went missing? I assume she didn’t take her daughter with her. It seems odd that she was never reported missing. The findagrave link say she disappeared sometimes, but to never come back, you would think it would have been reported.
 
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  • #226
Great article. Thanks for sharing.

I wonder if anyone had a description of this last man she was seen with?
From the article: "That’s about the time Doris’ sister Audrey got married, in January 1979. Doris attended the wedding, then left town with a new man she had met."

It doesn't say specifically the man attended the wedding with her, but I wonder. If so, there might be a photo.
 
  • #227
From the article: "That’s about the time Doris’ sister Audrey got married, in January 1979. Doris attended the wedding, then left town with a new man she had met."

It doesn't say specifically the man attended the wedding with her, but I wonder. If so, there might be a photo.
The article talks about how her mother "didn’t seem too worried about him" so they must have met him at some point.
 
  • #228
This is a really good article. It explains a lot. I hope they find who she left town with. I hope she see justice.
 
  • #229
Obviously, in the last few years before her death, she moved around. That's why her absence didn't worry her family, nor were they concerned with who she left with. She just met the wrong person, probably the guy she left with. I wonder if she was living in PA when she died, or if the guy dumped her there to hide her identity better-not that she was ever reported missing, so it didn't really matter.
 
  • #230
Obviously, in the last few years before her death, she moved around. That's why her absence didn't worry her family, nor were they concerned with who she left with. She just met the wrong person, probably the guy she left with. I wonder if she was living in PA when she died, or if the guy dumped her there to hide her identity better-not that she was ever reported missing, so it didn't really matter.

Agree. From the article they had a rough upbringing with alcoholic parents, and obviously many kids. In households such as this, the alcohol is a priority due to addiction, other life aspects, like kids, family, etc are secondary. There can be a lot of denial and complicated issues. Kids learn to be in survival mode. She spent time in jail as well, so being gone more than present can easily be summed up as she's gone again voluntarily. Sad situation.
 
  • #231
Agree. From the article they had a rough upbringing with alcoholic parents, and obviously many kids. In households such as this, the alcohol is a priority due to addiction, other life aspects, like kids, family, etc are secondary. There can be a lot of denial and complicated issues. Kids learn to be in survival mode. She spent time in jail as well, so being gone more than present can easily be summed up as she's gone again voluntarily. Sad situation.
She probably had gone away voluntarily, at least in the beginning, and caught up with who knows what kind of monster afterwards.
 
  • #232
She probably had gone away voluntarily, at least in the beginning, and caught up with who knows what kind of monster afterwards.

Oh absolutely. It sounds like from when she was last seen to when her body was found, it wasn't much time.
 
  • #233
That article really sheds a lot of light on the circumstances of her life around when she was killed. How sad for her two daughters - I wonder if the one who was adopted out has done dna and managed to find out her mother’s fate. How tragic for her.
 

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