PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #13

[Trackergd]

I don't know what bank he used, but there was no record of an unusual transaction.

Goodall's staff attorneys are entirely female.

Wolf should not make any difference. I doubt if he will step into anything overly Penn State related.

I'm just going to tuck a note in my folder to look at Goodall's staff at some point. If one of them was the mystery woman, it might explain Goodall having the tax form limited to side 1 for public disclosure (Docket No 14-0378 25 July 2011). LG may have been prompted by Goodall to do this. Continuity of finances from RG to LG without much public visibility.

 

[Trackergd]

Just make sure you get the right one she was beautiful

And you know this how? :thinking:

 

[Fromthedeepestjungle]

And you know this how? :thinking:

I would hope that to look back on 2004 up to 1 point as to when RG went missing +++++++ females who were around him hey I do think JJ went through everything about his life he could have missed some things I guess no one wants to talk about the female's must look at the smallest detail in everything

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I would hope that to look back on 2004 up to 1 point as to when RG went missing +++++++ females who were around him hey I do think JJ went through everything about his life he could have missed some things I guess no one wants to talk about the female's must look at the smallest detail in everything

Meeting a woman is one very good possibility. A murderer, accomplice, or helper would all be possibilities.

 

[Fromthedeepestjungle]

And you know this how? :thinking:

and something that is wrong with the time line on friday morning

 

[MissJ]

and something that is wrong with the time line on friday morning

Meaning?

 

[J. J. in Phila]

and something that is wrong with the time line on friday morning

As far as I know, the Friday morning timeline is complete. There are some things that were not released, but do confirm that timeline.

 

[Fromthedeepestjungle]

Meaning?

This means there is a female involved (why ?) MissJ, JJ and the others who look in on this and read what makes a person go missing sometimes a hardship they just cant deal with it there are other thing to which can leed to other pathes a female is part of this I do belive about 50% to start that she is from center county the other 50% is she maybe from the other counties around crntre I ask everyone here would RG pick up a female hitchhicker he did not even know or would RG let a stranger in his car with him and go driving this is a though all females that have been around him should be looked at even if it goes back years also case files how many females were seen with him on that weekend they were all different not one matched sit back and think about it take your time JJ went through alot of stuff I am still thinking if he is still hikeing in the mountains somewhere on this earth I still say he was over taken before he got to the SOS and someone dressed up like RG and the female helped out dressing up with big hair as to what IB said like I said could have very well been pre-planed alot of miss leeding

 

[J. J. in Phila]

This means there is a female involved (why ?) MissJ, JJ and the others who look in on this and read what makes a person go missing sometimes a hardship they just cant deal with it there are other thing to which can leed to other pathes a female is part of this I do belive about 50% to start that she is from center county the other 50% is she maybe from the other counties around crntre I ask everyone here would RG pick up a female hitchhicker he did not even know or would RG let a stranger in his car with him and go driving this is a though all females that have been around him should be looked at even if it goes back years also case files how many females were seen with him on that weekend they were all different not one matched sit back and think about it take your time JJ went through alot of stuff I am still thinking if he is still hikeing in the mountains somewhere on this earth I still say he was over taken before he got to the SOS and someone dressed up like RG and the female helped out dressing up with big hair as to what IB said like I said could have very well been pre-planed alot of miss leeding

I do agree all current/former girlfriends should be looked at.

RFG's scent was found in Lewisburg, so it couldn't be someone dressing up like him.

 

[MissJ]

I've always felt he had a meeting planned that day. Who and why is the question for me, IMO.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I've always felt he had a meeting planned that day. Who and why is the question for me, IMO.

I tend to think a meeting is likely, very likely. That would rule out suicide.

If it was a meeting, was it with a murderer or a helper?

 

[MissJ]

I tend to think a meeting is likely, very likely. That would rule out suicide.

If it was a meeting, was it with a murderer or a helper?

That is a good point about suicide. I've changed my opinion again as I often do. The big game changer would be if we knew for sure he had hidden money. I know I keep bringing up the McStay case but when they left behind money I felt there was no way they were a voluntary walkaway. Difficult to start over with no money. Now I'm thinking 50/50 walkaway/homicide. Would RFG have fallen into a trap and lured by a woman? By that I mean was he susceptible?

 

[Fromthedeepestjungle]

I do agree all current/former girlfriends should be looked at.

RFG's scent was found in Lewisburg, so it couldn't be someone dressing up like him.

Ok scent if I would put on someone's else clothes and I descent and put there clothes on would a sniffer dog pick it up or would the sniffer dog get confused to me I think someone might have made it look like RG was there but never was

 

[J. J. in Phila]

That is a good point about suicide. I've changed my opinion again as I often do. The big game changer would be if we knew for sure he had hidden money. I know I keep bringing up the McStay case but when they left behind money I felt there was no way they were a voluntary walkaway. Difficult to start over with no money. Now I'm thinking 50/50 walkaway/homicide. Would RFG have fallen into a trap and lured by a woman? By that I mean was he susceptible?

From what I've heard, no estate planning.

RFG's 2001 divorce was PA's version of a no-fault divorce. It was handled quickly, and it seems like they came to a quick agreement on the split of assets.

 

[Fromthedeepestjungle]

I tend to think a meeting is likely, very likely. That would rule out suicide.

If it was a meeting, was it with a murderer or a helper?

back to the scent again now if a female was inside of the mini would there be a scent of her? or would she have no perfume on or anything of smell and just how bad did the car smell inside of smoke did the dog sniff the inside of the car didn't IB say she seen a big haired blonde inside of the car when sitting at the SOS

 

[J. J. in Phila]

back to the scent again now if a female was inside of the mini would there be a scent of her? or would she have no perfume on or anything of smell and just how bad did the car smell inside of smoke did the dog sniff the inside of the car didn't IB say she seen a big haired blonde inside of the car when sitting at the SOS

Trackergd is the expert, but he has stated it would be unlikely that it was a false positive.

Butterworth saw a man with a blond with "big hair" in a red Mini. There were at least three red Mini's in Lewisburg on 4/15/05; that one might have been one of the others.

 

[MissJ]

Many people who have government pensions that they have worked years for don't do much in the way of formal estate planning. They depend heavily on that income
and its benefits. Many of them are worth a million in similar investments. Mine is. So while I had stock accounts I also invested in things like gold and silver. My point is even my own family knows very little about what my retirement planning was all about.
To me...JMO...the fact that the computer was disposed of and found speaks more to homicide than walkaway. If he walked away why not take it to new destination and then dispose of it? But Tracker may know more of that sort of thing.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Many people who have government pensions that they have worked years for don't do much in the way of formal estate planning. They depend heavily on that income
and its benefits. Many of them are worth a million in similar investments. Mine is. So while I had stock accounts I also invested in things like gold and silver. My point is even my own family knows very little about what my retirement planning was all about.
To me...JMO...the fact that the computer was disposed of and found speaks more to homicide than walkaway. If he walked away why not take it to new destination and then dispose of it? But Tracker may know more of that sort of thing.

There was nothing found after he disappeared.

RFG might have been worried about it being tracked by his Internet connection.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

A bit off topic, but a Happy Thanksgiving to everyone celebrating it.

 

[MissJ]

Happy Thanksgiving. I'd like to think RFG is out there and happy.