Identified! PA - White Haven, 'Beth Doe' & Unborn Baby 169UFPA, 16-22, Dec'76 - #2 - Evelyn Colon

[ihavehope2]

No, Bit of hope, I didn't receive your message. Thank you though for your feedback. It's tough looking at the older cases, as the pictures are not the best, and sometimes the details are not very clear. I did not find a European link.

 

[Bit of hope]

No, Bit of hope, I didn't receive your message. Thank you though for your feedback. It's tough looking at the older cases, as the pictures are not the best, and sometimes the details are not very clear. I did not find a European link.

I don't know where concentrations of people with European decent are living in America. I learn along the way....They teached me America is a melting pot....

 

[Sweetluv]

Does anyone know if the suitcases were ever fingerprinted?

 

[Owutatangledweb]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/White-Haven-Water-Tower/269364056533093

Thank you. I was wondering if there would be one that said WSR on it? Like one in Bethlehem.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Bethlehem, PA is one hour south of White Haven, also along a highway. Interestingly, there is a coca cola plant there that loves to use Bethlehem's pristine water. http://www.bethlehem-pa.gov/water/

I'm back to thinking Trucker.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Okay, different direction. Please look at this link and look for WSR in a November 2008 comment and in the section of the year 1979. WSR - World Series of Rock.. Should we be looking for concerts? Spouse just said World Series of Rocks were big concerts back then.

https://doclehman.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/1970’s-outdoor-rock-concertsfestivals-how-did-i-survive/

Nevermind. Probably a deadend. No concerts in 1976.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series_of_Rock

 

[dotr]

Have not yet found this organization closer to where Beth was found, but thinking that a place like this might be an intended destination for a young woman in the late stages of pregnancy, fwiw, imo.
WSR
https://wsr.byu.edu/content/pregnancy-reproductive-health

[h=1]Women's Services & Resources[/h]

[h=1]Pregnancy & Reproductive Health[/h]

 

[shadowdancer]

A little girl missing from Croatia -

Lidija Pale, missing since 1965 and aged 7 at the time.

If she was trafficked, then she could fit Beth's description. Perhaps if she had been kept captive, she had outlived her usefulness once she became pregnant.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/3556dfhrv.html

 

[dotr]

A little girl missing from Croatia -

Lidija Pale, missing since 1965 and aged 7 at the time.

If she was trafficked, then she could fit Beth's description. Perhaps if she had been kept captive, she had outlived her usefulness once she became pregnant.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/3556dfhrv.html

Interesting possibility!
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/3556dfhrv.html

Lidija Pale

 

[Bit of hope]

Still thinking about her European background..... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-melting-pot-ethnicities-make-USA-today.html I found this site where you can (also) European settlement in America.

 

[Bit of hope]

The main ancestries reported by White Haven residents on the 2000 Census were Polish, with 17% of the population, Italian with 13%, Irish with 10%, Slovak with 8%, and German with 6%. However, Czechoslovakian, Carpatho Rusyn, Eastern European and Slavic were all reported by about one percent of the population, so the Slovak population might have come in second to Polish if the census had allowed reporting of more than two ancestries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Haven,_Pennsylvania

 

[Bit of hope]

I don't want to post the half post mortem pic (it would be disrespectful so horrible), but only to show you her hair.

 

[Dr.Strangelove]

I don't want to post the half post mortem pic (it would be disrespectful so horrible), but only to show you her hair.

Do you happen to know where the photo is available? I saw you mention it was online

 

[Bit of hope]

https://alchetron.com/Beth-Doe-745141-W

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Have not yet found this organization closer to where Beth was found, but thinking that a place like this might be an intended destination for a young woman in the late stages of pregnancy, fwiw, imo.
WSR
https://wsr.byu.edu/content/pregnancy-reproductive-health

THere is a place like this discussed on another website that discusses this:

http://leperwitch.tumblr.com/post/147719539730/reallifeishorror-incident-non3-27244-on-the

http://ccwrc.org/about-ccwrc/founding-philosophy

 

[Sweetluv]

My thought.....the killer knew her and planned this out. He removed certain features and dismembered her body to make identification difficult...
Three, painted black, suitcases for camoflauge which im sure he didnt expect all 3 to be found mking it hard to put a body together. Handles removed since they were thrown into a waterway where branches, fishing line, and boat propellars could snag.
Bottom line, i feel the way to id beth is through her killer.

 

[ihavehope2]

I think that you have to accept my friend request for me to PM YOU? Although I just resnt the pm to you.

 

[Sweetluv]

Could the killer be a married man she was seeing or a well known figure in the community who did not want this child? Poss DR or hunter with surgical skills..

 

[dotr]

My thought.....the killer knew her and planned this out. He removed certain features and dismembered her body to make identification difficult...
Three, painted black, suitcases for camoflauge which im sure he didnt expect all 3 to be found mking it hard to put a body together. Handles removed since they were thrown into a waterway where branches, fishing line, and boat propellars could snag.
Bottom line, i feel the way to id beth is through her killer.

rbbm.
Removing the ears and nose to prevent identification seems like something someone would do if the victim's identity would lead right to the perp. but the mutilation of her chest area , does not make sense unless Beth had a tattooed chest or other anomaly, imo.
Or the perp was really, really angry and jealous.
If this was a sexually motivated crime by a stranger, the removal of chest area might be part of the nastiness.
imo, speculation.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/169ufpa.html

She had been strangled, then shot in the neck and then dismembered with a fine, serrated tool. Her killer had removed her nose, ears, and breasts.

 

[Alleykins]

rbbm.
Removing the ears and nose to prevent identification seems like something someone would do if the victim's identity would lead right to the perp. but the mutilation of her chest area , does not make sense unless Beth had a tattooed chest or other anomaly, imo.
Or the perp was really, really angry and jealous.
If this was a sexually motivated crime by a stranger, the removal of chest area might be part of the nastiness.
imo, speculation.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/169ufpa.html

I think you're right, Dot. The mutilation was either due to someone trying to prevent the victim from being identified, a horrible rage or some sort of sick penchant. Her breasts would have been enlarged and possibly leaking collostrum at that stage of pregnancy, which could have added to them being targeted.