Parents of baby Lisa Press Release 10/21/11

[KaylynnCouture]

That press release is a little like poking a snake with a stick-- LE will strike back, I have no doubt about that.

Has Jeremy been cleared? I know he didn't take a LDT, but am unsure of how solid LE views his alibi... tia.

I don't think anyone has been cleared- including Jeremy. I've heard in some media reports (Kelly's Court on Fox News, for one source..) that LE has surveillance video of Jeremy being at work that night. However, I haven't heard whether or not he stayed at work the entire time or anything. But, he WAS at work for at least some part, if not all, of his shift that night.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

I'd also like to add that it seems (and, this press release makes it more apparent) that the parents are more concerned about defending themselves and making the public think they are doing everything right as opposed to being concerned about bringing their daughter home.

At this point, if you truly are cooperating with LE, that's fantastic..continue to do so. Continue to give 10000 more statements and interviews, pass out flyers, make public pleas, etc. Those are all things that will help bring your child home!! Hiring attorneys, going on 10,000 media blitzes informing the country that you were drunk and unable to watch your child, etc. is not going to help.

This should be about bringing Lisa home.

 

[MsMacGyver]

Lets say the parents are totally innocent of any wrong doing. Why are they acting like they are the victims and why aren't they in front of a camera EVERY morning pleading for the public to keep looking? Why are they wasting time defending themselves and their position. We have seen how innocent familys behave. Unfortunately this isn't the first time a child has gone missing. The media keeps stating, none of us can put ourselves in these parents shoes. We know what we would do for our children, public perception be da**ed!... I always remember what Dr. G said during the A trial. A parent can find their child cold and stiff and still call 911 in hopes they can be saved, revived...jmo

 

[cluciano63]

I'd also like to add that it seems (and, this press release makes it more apparent) that the parents are more concerned about defending themselves and making the public think they are doing everything right as opposed to being concerned about bringing their daughter home.

At this point, if you truly are cooperating with LE, that's fantastic..continue to do so. Continue to give 10000 more statements and interviews, pass out flyers, make public pleas, etc. Those are all things that will help bring your child home!! Hiring attorneys, going on 10,000 media blitzes informing the country that you were drunk and unable to watch your child, etc. is not going to help.

This should be about bringing Lisa home.

They, at least mom, has seemed more worried about herself almost since the start. To me, even Misty talked more about Haleigh than this woman has spoken about Lisa, and that is saying something.

 

[charok]

Lets say the parents are totally innocent of any wrong doing. Why are they acting like they are the victims and why aren't they in front of a camera EVERY morning pleading for the public to keep looking? Why are they wasting time defending themselves and their position. We have seen how innocent familys behave. Unfortunately this isn't the first time a child has gone missing. The media keeps stating, none of us can put ourselves in these parents shoes. We know what we would do for our children, public perception be da**ed!... I always remember what Dr. G said during the A trial.A parent can find their child cold and stiff and still call 911 in hopes they can be saved, revived...jmo

i agree, (parent finding their kid cold and still would still call 911-any hope no matter how foolish or futile to at least TRY to revive them.)this sadly the more and more days pass echos the fca story...i originally held out hope when this story broke, but as the days pass, im not feeling so good on this. i pray im wrong, but fear im not. turning on LE? again reminds me of some people in a very recent case..just MOO

 

[LancelotLink]

Lets say the parents are totally innocent of any wrong doing. Why are they acting like they are the victims and why aren't they in front of a camera EVERY morning pleading for the public to keep looking? Why are they wasting time defending themselves and their position. We have seen how innocent familys behave. Unfortunately this isn't the first time a child has gone missing. The media keeps stating, none of us can put ourselves in these parents shoes. We know what we would do for our children, public perception be da**ed!... I always remember what Dr. G said during the A trial. A parent can find their child cold and stiff and still call 911 in hopes they can be saved, revived...jmo

ITA. I also saw a couple of things that made me wonder about their sincerity and drive to have this child returned. The flier they put out stated KIDNAPPED. That to me was a red flag, almost as if they were saying, "Take that, LE." And the fact that for a picture of a missing child, they chose one of a baby 3-4 months old instead of a recent picture, which are all over the media pages.

 

[Kamille]

Lets say the parents are totally innocent of any wrong doing. Why are they acting like they are the victims and why aren't they in front of a camera EVERY morning pleading for the public to keep looking? Why are they wasting time defending themselves and their position. We have seen how innocent familys behave. Unfortunately this isn't the first time a child has gone missing. The media keeps stating, none of us can put ourselves in these parents shoes. We know what we would do for our children, public perception be da**ed!... I always remember what Dr. G said during the A trial. A parent can find their child cold and stiff and still call 911 in hopes they can be saved, revived...jmo

Oh I don't know. We got a bit of a request for people to look for Lisa in the statement. I'm sure there's more coming. And then the sightings will start, if they haven't already. And LE will be run all over the country following up on them. Which is fine if she really has been abducted by some unstable person who wanted her for their own. Somehow I doubt it though.

MOO

 

[LancelotLink]

I don't think anyone has been cleared- including Jeremy. I've heard in some media reports (Kelly's Court on Fox News, for one source..) that LE has surveillance video of Jeremy being at work that night. However, I haven't heard whether or not he stayed at work the entire time or anything. But, he WAS at work for at least some part, if not all, of his shift that night.

I always wondered how he was on video all night.

 

[katydid23]

ITA. I also saw a couple of things that made me wonder about their sincerity and drive to have this child returned. The flier they put out stated KIDNAPPED. That to me was a red flag, almost as if they were saying, "Take that, LE." And the fact that for a picture of a missing child, they chose one of a baby 3-4 months old instead of a recent picture, which are all over the media pages.

I agree. And if you want to look at mom's sincerity and depth of caring for Baby Lisa, just consider the way she treated her that night. She admits the child was sick for a couple of days. So she puts her in her crib, way earlier than usual, then never checks in on her. Goes out to the stoop to drink and smoke?

How do MOST parents feel about their child when they are sick? Don't most mom's pay EXTRA attention to an infant who is sick? Don't most of us keep a sick infant closer to us, check on them more often, put our own selfish needs second at that point?

 

[New1]

We now have the Defense spinning. Who drummed up these people who now see a 5'8" guy carrying a baby that night?

Every darn time a defense attorney gets involved, these sightings take off. I know there was one early on but now we have the witnesses on camera...a new twist.

I don't take credit for this thought because I believe it was from one of the talking heads on HLN about the sightings of the man carrying a baby. How do we know the timeline is even right about when Lisa was last seen alive? What IF these witnesses really did see a man carrying a baby? What if this baby was little Lisa and the man carrying her was her father or DB's brother and the baby was already dead and the man was walking to dispose of the body? The witnesses would not know if the baby was alive or dead. We all assume the baby was carried out in a bag or blanket or something, but what IF she wasn't wrapped or bagged? What if this was a way of carrying her out that wouldn't look suspicious? Just a man carrying a baby.

We don't know how long the dad was at work, do we? He said 4 am, but is that the truth? It might not have taken him that long to complete the job and he could have come home about midnight for all we know, found the baby dead from being smothered because the mother rolled over on her, laid the baby on the floor to try to revive her then decided to take the baby out in his arms uncovered to dispose of her body. There is something I see in JI's eyes that tells me he is covering for his wife....both of them know what happened to little Lisa! MOO

 

[katydid23]

I always wondered how he was on video all night.

He had to have a dinner break. Where did he go?

 

[katydid23]

I don't take credit for this thought because I believe it was from one of the talking heads on HLN about the sightings of the man carrying a baby. How do we know the timeline is even right about when Lisa was last seen alive? What IF these witnesses really did see a man carrying a baby? What if this baby was little Lisa and the man carrying her was her father or DB's brother and the baby was already dead and the man was walking to dispose of the body? The witnesses would not know if the baby was alive or dead. We all assume the baby was carried out in a bag or blanket or something, but what IF she wasn't wrapped or bagged? What if this was a way of carrying her out that wouldn't look suspicious? Just a man carrying a baby.

We don't know how long the dad was at work, do we? He said 4 am, but is that the truth? It might not have taken him that long to complete the job and he could have come home about midnight for all we know, found the baby dead from being smothered because the mother rolled over on her, laid the baby on the floor to try to revive her then decided to take the baby out in his arms uncovered to dispose of her body. There is something I see in JI's eyes that tells me he is covering for his wife....both of them know what happened to little Lisa! MOO

The cops know what time he checked out of his job that night. But I am not sure they could have known where he was every minute that night. He must have had a dinner break for example.

 

[New1]

The more information released, the more nervous I get. I wondered if it was possible that Lisa died before 10-4-2008 and these parents took the time to think about their defense/cover up before reporting anything. The media is reporting the sightings of the man walking with a baby wearing only a diaper. They report this happened at 12:00am and now a sighting at around 4:00am...same man, same baby. Could they have really had someone, possibly the brother, do this to create confusion, the appearance of a stranger seen with Lisa. Carrying a possibly dead Lisa to create suspicion towards a stranger. Witnesses report the temp around 45 degrees out, why would this person not have a blanket on this baby or at the very least try to cover the baby up with their clothing unless they wanted to make sure the baby was seen clearly. After it was reported tonight that the cadaver dog got a hit in DB's bedroom floor, the picture thats forming in my mind is an ugly one. LE seen at the quarry and then at the home. The no fly zone enforced, equipment brought in, CSI searching every inch of the house and yard.
LE has said very little which is normal but they did say the parents stopped cooperating. That statement direct from the horses mouth. DB seems to be using the media to imply LE were the bad guys. Using underhanded tactics. LE has every right to do whatever need be to help the victim...LISA.
Remember CA, how she turned on LE?...I've got a very sick feeling in the pit of my stomach...

I just posted about the same thing before I read your post. Man walking with a DEAD baby.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Although I think the parents are guilty, I feel they can't win when it comes to the media. If they keep quiet, they are accused of not wanting to find Lisa. If they constantly talk to the media, then they are trying to be celebrities. It seems that we form our opinions about how the parents have handled the media based on whether we think they are guilty or not.

 

[LancelotLink]

I agree. And if you want to look at mom's sincerity and depth of caring for Baby Lisa, just consider the way she treated her that night. She admits the child was sick for a couple of days. So she puts her in her crib, way earlier than usual, then never checks in on her. Goes out to the stoop to drink and smoke?

How do MOST parents feel about their child when they are sick? Don't most mom's pay EXTRA attention to an infant who is sick? Don't most of us keep a sick infant closer to us, check on them more often, put our own selfish needs second at that point?

I totally agree. I am up and down constantly when one of my dogs are not feeling well.

Bottom line, I think a thread with nothing but interview videos from beginning to end would be very helpful. Because, for me, it was DB's own words that raised all my red hinky flags and that big red hinky plane is coming in for a crash landing.

 

[LancelotLink]

I just posted about the same thing before I read your post. Man walking with a DEAD baby.

Or a doll. That was an awfully long walk with 30 pounds.

 

[LancelotLink]

Although I think the parents are guilty, I feel they can't win when it comes to the media. If they keep quiet, they are accused of not wanting to find Lisa. If they constantly talk to the media, then they are trying to be celebrities. It seems that we form our opinions about how the parents have handled the media based on whether we think they are guilty or not.

I'm glad they talked to the media. I'm really glad they did a media blitz to announce that the timeline was shattered and that she was no longer useful to the investigation. That information about her drinking, bogus as it was was not pulled from her. She went to the networks and offered it up. :clap:

 

[cluciano63]

Although I think the parents are guilty, I feel they can't win when it comes to the media. If they keep quiet, they are accused of not wanting to find Lisa. If they constantly talk to the media, then they are trying to be celebrities. It seems that we form our opinions about how the parents have handled the media based on whether we think they are guilty or not.

That's the way it is nowadays, fact of life.
I don't know that people would be as harsh if they were in the media all day long, if they were talking about Lisa, i.e. her symptoms, her allergies, what food she likes, etc, rather than defending themselves and adding Lisa on as an afterthought much of the time, if at all.
It is a tough call...but I've never seen a case where the impression of the parents improved by hiring a flashy lawyer. They might have been better off with some sort of professional media rep.
JMO of course.

 

[dovebar]

To me, it remains to be seen that they've done anything wrong, just based on the way they appear in the media. This is why trials are moved all the time, because people make up their minds based on what they think people "ought" to be like in these circumstances, rather than on the evidence.

It is a natural thing for us to do as we don't have the evidence, but it doesn't really mean much except that we all have our expectations of what we think we'd do.

In reality, if it were us, we might be exactly the same way. We are predicting actions from situations where our children are home safe in bed.

Also, these people are relatively uneducated, not Parents of the Year, and just fumbling their way through life.

The man-with-baby sightings, the dumpster fire, these things alone give me reasonable doubt until the D.A. can prove otherwise. And from their perspective, a "flashy" lawyer might simply be one they can afford - one who will waive his initial fees, because he's got a successful television commentary gig in addition to his lawyering.

 

[AlmostGone]

I agree. And if you want to look at mom's sincerity and depth of caring for Baby Lisa, just consider the way she treated her that night. She admits the child was sick for a couple of days. So she puts her in her crib, way earlier than usual, then never checks in on her. Goes out to the stoop to drink and smoke?

How do MOST parents feel about their child when they are sick? Don't most mom's pay EXTRA attention to an infant who is sick? Don't most of us keep a sick infant closer to us, check on them more often, put our own selfish needs second at that point?

When my children are sick I never leave their side except to get drinks, food, medicine, blankets, potty.. And with my little guy he's normally on my hip... My oldest yes even 16year old I even lay with.. I'm a little bit of a freak I guess but I'd rather be safe then sorry...