Passage of Jessica's Law and new developments

[southcitymom]

I hope Texas will pass this law and enforce it as quickly as they do other death penalties. Child rape, when proven without a doubt, is one non murder crime that deserves the death penalty. To me, it's about the worst crime that can be committed.

If any state might pass a law like this it would be Texas!!

I'm not a death penalty fan, but I agree 100% that child rape is a type of murder.

 

[sherri79]

remember they have 2 rape 2 kids to get the DP. 2 kids where they got caught. 2 kids who will never recover. if shooting a store clerk for cash because you have a drug problem is = to the DP then raping a child is.

 

[deanws]

Hi everyone Im new here. I read this and I personally am glad they are doing this.

Hi Amanda. Glad you are here. I know you will love WS~

 

[aussiegran]

Hi everyone Im new here. I read this and I personally am glad they are doing this.

Welcome to WS Amanda

 

[j2mirish]

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007May18/0,4670,SexOffendersTexas,00.html

Texas sex offenders who are twice convicted of raping children under 14 could get the death penalty under a bill state lawmakers approved Friday.
The state House passed Texas' version of "Jessica's Law," a crackdown on sex offenders who prey on children, a day after the Senate approved it.
The bill is named for Jessica Lunsford, a Florida girl who was abducted and killed. More than a dozen states have passed versions of Jessica's Law.
Gov. Rick Perry has said he was open to the idea of the death penalty in child sex cases and that passage of a child sex offender bill is a legislative emergency. Perry spokeswoman Katherine Cesinger said the governor will wait to read the final version of the bill before deciding whether to sign it into law.
"The purpose is to make Texas a safer place for children and a more dangerous place for their predators," said Republican Rep. Debbie Riddle, the bill's House sponsor.
Texas would be the sixth state to add the death penalty for some child rape cases, although legal experts debate whether the punishment would be unconstitutional in cases where the victim did not die. Louisiana has an inmate on death row in a child sex crime, but that case is being appealed......

The bill also creates a new category of crime _ continual sexual abuse of a young child or children, carrying a minimum penalty of 25 years to life in prison....
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more at link.

uhmmmm twice convicted??....how about the first conviction? :banghead: :furious:

 

[ember]

I just love Texas. They don't mess around! Meanwhile....you have Vermont.....they could really take a lesson from Texas.
Hope they pass it!

ETA: Welcome to WS Amanda! Hope you like it here!

 

[AmandaBrown23]

Hi everyone and thanks for the welcome. I live in Louisiana and over here they seem to get a slap on the wrists. As a child victim myself and a mother of 3 I just really wish more states would pick this up.

 

[MeoW333]

Way to go Texas!! I hope other states follow the lead with this; they can't rehabiliate these perverts, put them away for good!

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Yes I agree,that minimum sentence of 25 to 30 years is great---But the death penalty itself will never happen to these scum,nobody has been put to death for a crime w/o involving a death since Caryl Chessman more than 40 years ago(he was convicted of only kidnapping)--it just ain't gonna happen--and it shouldn't--I'm a strong believer in the death penalty,as most of you know,but not in cases where the victim is not killed--

If not the death penalty, then at least hard time within the general prisoner population. Now days they send child molesters to "special" prisons where they are protected from people who will do the same thing to them that they did to a helpless child.

I say castrate, and throw them in with Charles Manson.

 

[IdahoMom]

:furious::furious::furious::furious:

Is Rep James Fagan for real?

Representative Fagan's remarks:

"Let me tell you why it’s so wrong, It’s so wrong because in these situations . . . that 6-year-old is going to sit in front of me, or somebody far worse than me and I’m going to rip them apart. I’m going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined. That when they’re 8 years old they throw up; when they’re 12 years old, they won’t sleep. When they’re 19 years old they’ll have nightmares and they’ll never have a relationship with anybody. And that’s not because I’m a nice guy. That’s because when you’re in court, and you’re defending somebody’s liberty, and you’re facing a mandatory sentence of those draconian proportions, you have to do every single thing you can do on behalf of your client. That is your obligation as a trial lawyer.”

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Jessica Lunsford's Dad Blasts Mass. Pol's Vow to 'Rip Apart' Child Rape Victims at Trial

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,371344,00.html

The father of a Florida girl abducted and buried alive in a trash bag by a sex offender has blasted a Massachusetts politician who said he'd have to torment young victims on the witness stand if mandatory sentences for offenders passed the state Legislature....

... “Why doesn’t he figure out a way to defend that child and put these kind of people away instead of trying to figure ways for defense attorneys to get around Jessica’s Law?” Lunsford told the paper. “These are very serious crimes that nobody wants to take serious. What about the rights of these children?”

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video here:

http://thenextright.com/charles-signorile/video-rep-james-fagan-d-on-jessicas-law

 

[Jeana (DP)]

From the link:

"I'm gonna rip them apart," Fagan said of young victims. "I'm going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined, that when they’re 8 years old, they throw up; when they’re 12 years old, they won’t sleep; when they’re 19 years old, they’ll have nightmares and they’ll never have a relationship with anybody.”


Now THIS is a guy who needs some talking to. What a disgrace to the profession. A disgrace to his gender. A disgrace to the human race.

 

[SewingDeb]

I don't believe the jury would take kindly to the victim being torn apart on the stand.

Mark is right!

 

[bakerprune64]

Snipped from the above link...

Fagan came under fire last month for remarks he made about young victims during a debate in the Massachusetts House on the state adopting Jessica's Law, which would require a mandatory 20-year sentence for the rape of a child under age 12.
"I'm gonna rip them apart," Fagan said of young victims. "I'm going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined, that when they’re 8 years old, they throw up; when they’re 12 years old, they won’t sleep; when they’re 19 years old, they’ll have nightmares and they’ll never have a relationship with anybody.”

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Somebody needs to rip him apart, IMO!! What a freaking loser...how could anybody even think that:furious: Oh wait, he is one of THOSE kinds of lawyers. Asshat

Jeana, got to it before I did.

 

[Karole28]

Ya know, with this kind of outlook, there really is no reason to just verbally "rip them apart". You could just physically slap them around til they recanted and call it a day.

Dumba$$.

 

[Taximom]

Wow, to think Imus's remarks got more play than this ever will. What a jerk.

 

[pixies]

All the craziness on the "Where's Johnny" thread about pedophiles in high places just may be correct.
What kind of person would "rip apart" a child who has been raped? Hmmmm....

I think the guy is a freak. I hope the media look into this guy and into his past just to see what is lurking back there.

 

[Mira]

what an awful nasty sick person this fella is.

on the practical side, i dont think a jury would look kindly on a child being 'ripped apart' on the witness stand. also, it is rare (i think) for a 6 year old victim to have to testify in open court.

this person is a sicko. he needs to be investigated to see if he is a sex offender himself. takes one to defend one IMO.

 

[Taximom]

We can tell him what we think, right?
http://www.mass.gov/legis/member/jhf1.htm
State HouseDistrict OfficeRoom 16326 Dean StreetState HouseTaunton, MA 02780Boston, MA 02133 Telephone: 617-722-2040508-824-7000Facsimile: 508-823-9892E-Mail: [email protected]

For thinking kids lie so much, he's sure involved in a lot of children's activities. Interesting.
ORGANIZATIONS: Massachusetts Academy of Trial Lawyers; Taunton Boys & Girls Club (Board of Directors); Taunton Little League; Taunton Youth Basketball Coach; Massachusetts Bar Foundation; Massachusetts Waterfowlers, Inc.; Babe Ruth League; High School Umpire; Bristol Ducks Unlimited; Southeastern New England Area Boys' Clubs of America (past Chairman).

 

[Taximom]

Here's the video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aq-NJ1YQu8M

 

[White Rain]

How can this jerk sleep at night? Cold, heartless, unfeeling .