Pastor of mega church says wife has gone away for 1 year...

[LaLaw2000]

Michele Miscavige - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A 2013 police investigation confirmed that she was alive but did not reveal her location or reason for disappearing from public view.[4]

Thanks, Tulessa! I could not remember the name!

This sounds just like that one began. I have to wonder if Ron Carpenter got the idea from Miscavige to send Hope away?

Hope Carpenter seems like a strong woman from the videos I've started to listen to. I just don't understand........................

 

[Roxye]

Why would they? They - like most people - are taking the word of the preacher man as gospel. My guess is that he was banking on that. And banking on making his wife sound so much like a degenerate that no one would care.

A year or more from now, when they find her body, there will be nothing to tie him to her murder. Perfect.

JMHO.

I agree with you about the murder of Hope. I disagree with you on the issue of him being found guilty. I think he over estimated himself, and eventually everyone will realize exactly who he is and what he is done.

 

[attraversiamo]

I live in Greenville, SC, about 15 minutes from Redemption World Outreach Center. Possum Kingdom is an area, a community, in Belton (a town) and is about 30 minutes from Greenville. RWOC converted a movie theater into a church. As such, it had no windows. My husband always said not to trust a church with no windows, ha.

Anyway, a local talk show host has had a reporter digging and (on Friday) promised that there would be some revelations on his show on Monday. Ron Carpenter actually called his show on Tues? or Wed? after his initial sermon about Hope. Host mentioned it a few times last couple of weeks and how there had to be more to the story. It's Russ Cassell on 106.3 NewsRadio WORD. His show is 8-12 am EST. Over the air, invited RC to call in again on Monday. Should be interesting.

Tune in & listen live here: http://tunein.com/radio/WORD-1063-s29192/

6am - 10am Russ Cassell Show

 

[Fairy1]

I agree with you about the murder of Hope. I disagree with you on the issue of him being found guilty. I think he over estimated himself, and eventually everyone will realize exactly who he is and what he is done.

If Hope is gone - I hope you're right. I really do.

 

[Roxye]

Hope Carpenter seems like a strong woman from the videos I've started to listen to. I just don't understand........................

Hope was amazing! I have watched almost every video I could, I have read almost everything I could about her mind set.

She had the same philosophy that I have always had. Being Christian doesn't mean being a prude.... as long as you are with your husband!

Sadly, I don't think Ron had the same mindset and eventually Hope realized that. Which makes this case more about HIM and less about HER!

 

[panthera]

Why would they? They - like most people - are taking the word of the preacher man as gospel. My guess is that he was banking on that. And banking on making his wife sound so much like a degenerate that no one would care.

A year or more from now, when they find her body, there will be nothing to tie him to her murder. Perfect.

JMHO.

It appears he has already alluded to that possibility by stating she is free to leave the facility whenever she wants to. It will be SODDI when she checks herself out of whatever facility she is supposedly at. However, at that point, wouldn't it be imperative that LE know where she had been? Wouldn't he have to disclose the location? No murder is "perfect" except in the eyes of the perpetrator who believes they have covered all bases.

MOO

 

[SeekingJana]

Under our Constitution, Hope Carpenter is to be treated as every other citizen. The churches are separate from our government.
IF S.C. LE takes " the good word" of her husband when investigating her disappearance, then they are negligent. Possibly criminally negligent if harm comes to her in the interim.

 

[Roxye]

I will admit, I don't know that Hope is dead. She could very well be alive somewhere just as Ron says. In my heart, I don't believe this. Ron is a new day cult leader that eliminated his wife to prevent her from telling of his philandering ways.

He is accusing her of being a . He is accusing her of abandoning the family. He is accusing her of being mentally ill.

Where is Hope to defend herself or admit to these accusations?

A quick 2 minute video from her would make him sound credible... yet, Ron refuses that.

 

[SeekingJana]

OK, playing Devil's Advocate here for a moment:
This is a FAMILY which has raked in MILLIONS of dollars based upon the retelling and spiritualization of their OWN misfortunes.

I watched the video of Ron in CT where he is talking about his own teenaged son. Had 4 car wrecks, 3 stays for detox, a baby and finally ordered to treatment by the courts ( I am probably forgetting some of the HORRIBLE MISFORTUNES).

Then there's the matter of Ron's porn addiction.
His parents' suffering over his dad's cancer for 22 YEARS. ( he died last year).

Now, we have Hope in a sexual and psychiatric crisis and Ron puts her away somewhere and vows to help her but divorce her nonetheless.

Could this be a family set up to generate more DVDs and books?
I am only asking after I watched the vile things he said about his own ten son on I.B. Nora's link to the 55 minute video.

If Hope is debasing herself in such a way with lies to sell media to congregations of thousands of people, then that's her little red wagon to pull, not mine. But if this is RON'S way of raking in the dough without her consent, then I think criminal exploitation comes into play. And probably kidnapping.

 

[Fairy1]

OK, playing Devil's Advocate here for a moment:
This is a FAMILY which has raked in MILLIONS of dollars based upon the retelling and spiritualization of their OWN misfortunes.

I watched the video of Ron in CT where he is talking about his own teenaged son. Had 4 car wrecks, 3 stays for detox, a baby and finally ordered to treatment by the courts ( I am probably forgetting some of the HORRIBLE MISFORTUNES).

Then there's the matter of Ron's porn addiction.
His parents' suffering over his dad's cancer for 22 YEARS. ( he died last year).

Now, we have Hope in a sexual and psychiatric crisis and Ron puts her away somewhere and vows to help her but divorce her nonetheless.

Could this be a family set up to generate more DVDs and books?
I am only asking after I watched the vile things he said about his own ten son on I.B. Nora's link to the 55 minute video.

If Hope is debasing herself in such a way with lies to sell media to congregations of thousands of people, then that's her little red wagon to pull, not mine. But if this is RON'S way of raking in the dough without her consent, then I think criminal exploitation comes into play. And probably kidnapping.

I do appreciate this POV. However, I believe the "misfortunes" of the son are nothing more than the actions of a spoiled brat with extremely wealthy parents.

The fact that the good preacher has made it perfectly clear that there is no chance of a reconciliation with his wife tells me that he has no plans to capitalize on the recovery of her unfortunate "sex addiction."

That said, I suppose there is a chance they're in on this together and will chalk it up to some incredible miracle. If that should come to pass, I sincerely hope their "followers" will take stock and WAKE UP.

 

[LietKynes]

I will admit, I don't know that Hope is dead. She could very well be alive somewhere just as Ron says. In my heart, I don't believe this. Ron is a new day cult leader that eliminated his wife to prevent her from telling of his philandering ways.

He is accusing her of being a . He is accusing her of abandoning the family. He is accusing her of being mentally ill.

Where is Hope to defend herself or admit to these accusations?

A quick 2 minute video from her would make him sound credible... yet, Ron refuses that.

RSBM

A close friend of mine was married for 2 years to an abusive pastor. He tried on two occasions to have her committed after she threatened to go public about the bruises that were on her body where they (the marks) couldn't be seen.
She finally escaped him ; but further harassment from him continued for some time. Finally he gave up and left her alone.
After that she was able to get her life back on track and today is doing well.
She would be the first to say that looks can be deceiving , and a 'happy' home life may be anything but that !

This case is concerning not only because it reminds me of my friend and everything she went through, but as another poster said upthread (sorry forgot who ) ; maybe Hope found out something about HIM that could end his "ministry" --- and I use that word lightly, from what I've been reading about RC.
If I am wrong I will eat my hat after I go out and buy one.
:moo:

 

[Roxye]

RSBM

If I am wrong I will eat my hat after I go out and buy one.
:moo:

I am with you. I think Hope is dead, I think Ron caused that death in someway. I think Ron is now covering it up.

I think soon we will hear about an indictment. I think LE is following up.

 

[otto]

If she hasn't come forward to confirm that she is on a one year sabbatical, chances are that she is no longer alive. Did the leader of some sort of evangelical church try to explain his wife's absence with an unexplained trip?

Does anyone have any idea where she is? Lots of people leave bodies in places they knew as children.

 

[otto]

Is there any reason why this woman would not come forward and contact concerned persons so as to conclude speculation? If there is no reason for her to not come forward, then she has been murdered. If the husband is claiming that the wife that cannot be contacted is alive and well on an adventure, then wouldn't everyone have to wait seven years to have her decaled deceased? Errr, I mean, wouldn't that mean that, for now, he's gotten away with murder?

 

[SeekingJana]

I do appreciate this POV. However, I believe the "misfortunes" of the son are nothing more than the actions of a spoiled brat with extremely wealthy parents.

The fact that the good preacher has made it perfectly clear that there is no chance of a reconciliation with his wife tells me that he has no plans to capitalize on the recovery of her unfortunate "sex addiction."

That said, I suppose there is a chance they're in on this together and will chalk it up to some incredible miracle. If that should come to pass, I sincerely hope their "followers" will take stock and WAKE UP.

Fairy, my gut feeling is that she is in dire trouble.
I realized though, that Ron was pimping out the past problems of everyone in his family except HOPE. He was calling her an angel in one of his " sermons" which was really a personal confession with CDs to make money.

For every hour that goes by, Hope may very well be in more jeopardy. Time is definitely of the essence and delays in checking and ascertaining her status of health and welfare cannot continue.

 

[momrids6]

I see an extreme narcissist when watching the video, and hearing what he has proclaimed under the guise of religion.

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/08/04/how-to-spot-a-narcissist/

Rage—Coming Soon From a Narcissist Near You

Hell hath no fury or contempt as a narcissist you dare to disagree with, tell they’re wrong, or embarrass.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/just-listen/201202/rage-coming-soon-narcissist-near-you

I am very worried about Hope and her children

 

[CHERIE.T]

Is there any reason why this woman would not come forward and contact concerned persons so as to conclude speculation? If there is no reason for her to not come forward, then she has been murdered. If the husband is claiming that the wife that cannot be contacted is alive and well on an adventure, then wouldn't everyone have to wait seven years to have her decaled deceased? Errr, I mean, wouldn't that mean that, for now, he's gotten away with murder?

:seeya: hi Otto. long time no see.
I think you hit the nail on the head.

 

[Tulessa]

I knew this case would drag me back here, in the middle of the night. I need sleep! Hope? Where are you!?! :drumroll:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

http://www.scnewsfeed.com/greenvill...ifes-illness-adultery-prompts-prayers-debate/

Can some one translate this for me?

As Pastor Carpenter told congregants during a church and those examination a Internet livestream, Mrs. Carpenter has willingly checked into a one-year reconstruction hospital where she has been put in siege for evaluation. Admitting during his remarks on Sunday that he did not accurately know what was bum his wife, Pastor Carpenter though common that he had been sensitive by a therapist “that it was a misfortune box they had ever seen.”

I think we need the Da Vinci Code breaker! :floorlaugh:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

It just about made me cry to see Billy Graham's name on that Charisma website. I used to watch his revivals on the black and white TV with my parents when I was a little girl. I've read the bio of his wife, Ruth, and I know she was a beloved and cherished wife for all their marriage.

I think Ron Carpenter is ALL BS. He believes in Patriarchy, or male supremacy, and women are to glorify the life of their husbands.

I am really starting to think she may have had some evidence of HIS wrong-doing, so he " put her away", as they used to say.

Just jumping off your post...

"The best defense is a good offense" ... Or something like that...:giggle:

I wonder what Hope found out about him? (If anything)... Therefore, is he setting up this one -sided ambush on her before she can reveal the goods on him?

and... I wonder if she is writing a book now... As she has so much time in isolation?

Actually... I hope she is alive... But I have all sorts of questions... :waitasec:

JMO