Penn State athletic director plus ex-Paterno assistant charged in child rape case #2

[believe09]

I am not sure how you end child sex abuse as long as these predators are wired the way they are. . I think we have to arm our children so that the children being abused stand out more, or we have to be able to get the message to them that someone will help them if they tell.

See, and then you have a situation like this one where adults witness the rape of the children and do nothing.

So where should we start?

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Here's a helpful link to the media/reference thread. Thanks to Salem and others who have provided links for reference!

Penn State's Child Abuse Timeline/Media/Reference NO DISCUSSION - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[waltzingmatilda]

I am not sure how you end child sex abuse as long as these predators are wired the way they are. . I think we have to arm our children so that the children being abused stand out more, or we have to be able to get the message to them that someone will help them if they tell.

See, and then you have a situation like this one where adults witness the rape of the children and do nothing.

So where should we start?

I don't think we can end it believe09. Predators will always be out there and they are wired differently. But we can create awareness and hopefully parents will be better informed on the signs to look for. We've gotta protect our children. I don't know the answer but an open dialogue is a start. JMO

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[concentric]

Yes, the Citadel, certainly. But I'm a bit worried at this point about tarring with the same PSU brush other academic institutions.

And I'm worried that other institutions will not be investigated because this will be contained to PSU.

 

[wfgodot]

And I'm worried that other institutions will not be investigated because this will be contained to PSU.

I understand.

 

[mahmoo]

Second Mile chief resigns; charity hires Lynne Abraham

The president of The Second Mile, the charity at the center of the sexual abuse case against former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky, has resigned.....

In a letter submitted to board members Sunday, President and CEO Jack Raykovitz said that by leaving his post he hoped to help restore the community's faith in the organization.

The article also mentions that the SM Board has launched their own investigation AND hired attorney Lynne Abraham to represent them.

 

[wfgodot]

Good article from Mary Quigley:

Penn State Scandal Presents a Teachable Moment (Huffington Post)

 

[Quiche]

Second Mile chief resigns; charity hires Lynne Abraham



The article also mentions that the SM Board has launched their own investigation AND hired attorney Lynne Abraham to represent them.

From the same publication:

Future of Second Mile in doubt as supporters back away

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/2...doubt_as_supporters_back_away.html?page=1&c=y

 

[wfgodot]

WSJ reported this yesterday so it might already be posted above:

Advertisers bail on Penn State college football TV ads (Christian Science Monitor)

Beyond the profound embarrassment and ethical questions surrounding the sexual abuse scandal at Penn State, the controversy is also hurting the University's bottom line.

The Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday that no less than six advertisers have pulled their commercials from upcoming Penn State football broadcasts on ESPN.

"I have multiple advertisers pulling ads from the ESPN broadcast," one media buyer told the Journal.
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more at link above

 

[Thundar]

I don't know if this has been posted yet but it is an interesting article about an assistant coach during 1987-1988 named Paknis. He talks about how the coachs showered and his impressions of things going on during his graduate assistant coach job.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45283472/ns/sports-college_football//

"I’m just tired of all these little fiefdoms popping up everywhere, and people hiding in the back office, surrounded by all their henchmen, and doing the wrong things,” Paknis told NBCSports.com. “It’s got to stop. Someone has to step up. I can’t sit back. I’m doing this to help people.”

It should be made clear that Paknis did not witness any sexual abuse while at Penn State as a graduate assistant coach in 1987 and 1988, before leaving to pursue a master's degree in architecture at the University of Rhode Island. He did, however, see some things that made him queasy, especially in light of his own background, and especially when it came to Sandusky.

“He was always grabbing the players,” Paknis says. “He would get in their space, lean up right against them. I’d also been taught you don’t touch anyone unless you are teaching a technique. Boundaries were clearly an issue. It made me feel awkward, the way he would grab or pinch them.”

 

[wfgodot]

How Joe Paterno Should Have Gone Out (cnbc.com)

 

[zippitydoda]

I am not sure how you end child sex abuse as long as these predators are wired the way they are. . I think we have to arm our children so that the children being abused stand out more, or we have to be able to get the message to them that someone will help them if they tell.

See, and then you have a situation like this one where adults witness the rape of the children and do nothing.

So where should we start?

Its so complicated. We want children to be children, and to think and experience life as children. Parents teach "stranger danger", but how can a child comprehend the horrific actions being done to them by people they know - people in their own family, or people they have been introduce to by their own parents. I think there are a lot of monsters out there, masquerading as good "uncles", who prey on those they know can't understand what is being done to them. They count on the silence.

In addition to the horrors inflicted on these children, what is additionally repulsive is the shear number of people who, at the very least, had good reason to not only suspect abuse, but had direct knowledge about it, and then failed to speak out about it and stop it. I think this will be far reaching, and many other people will fall from grace as well. Public shaming is a powerful thing. So many lives now ruined because these adults chose to look the other way, or even more frightening, to protect a monster - what could any of them say now that would explain their failure to act over all this time.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

I don't know if this has been posted yet but it is an interesting article about an assistant coach during 1987-1988 named Paknis. He talks about how the coachs showered and his impressions of things going on during his graduate assistant coach job.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45283472/ns/sports-college_football//

"I’m just tired of all these little fiefdoms popping up everywhere, and people hiding in the back office, surrounded by all their henchmen, and doing the wrong things,” Paknis told NBCSports.com. “It’s got to stop. Someone has to step up. I can’t sit back. I’m doing this to help people.”

It should be made clear that Paknis did not witness any sexual abuse while at Penn State as a graduate assistant coach in 1987 and 1988, before leaving to pursue a master's degree in architecture at the University of Rhode Island. He did, however, see some things that made him queasy, especially in light of his own background, and especially when it came to Sandusky.

“He was always grabbing the players,” Paknis says. “He would get in their space, lean up right against them. I’d also been taught you don’t touch anyone unless you are teaching a technique. Boundaries were clearly an issue. It made me feel awkward, the way he would grab or pinch them.”

WOW!!! Way to tell it Paknis!

 

[wfgodot]

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Since Sandusky was freed, an elementary school neighboring his home has taken steps to ensure student safety. Sandusky's backyard is next to the playground at Lemont Elementary School.

When he was released on bail, Sandusky, the former Nittany Lions defensive coordinator, was told not to go near children.

State College Area School District Superintendent Robert J. O'Donnell told The Patriot-News newspaper in an e-mail that police were aware of the issue and that the principal at the school "has taken additional administrative action to ensure our children are safe. These measures ... will remain in place moving forward."

O'Donnell didn't say what steps were taken.
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more here: CNN

 

[wfgodot]

Big Ten removes Paterno's name from trophy (CBS)

Former Penn State coach Joe Paterno's name has been removed from the Big Ten's football championship trophy, league commissioner Jim Delany said Monday.
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[wfgodot]

Joe Paterno working with PR firm TMG Strategies (prdaily.com)

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“TMG provides counsel to organizations facing their toughest communications challenges—challenges to their reputations, to their bottom line and to their morale. We help them navigate their most complex reputation threats, providing the leadership ideas, good judgment and discretion that come with experience.”
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Possibly to be expected, but I'm still left speechless.
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greggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
Best PR move Joe Paterno could make is to fire the PR firm he just hired.

http://twitter.com/#!/greggdoyelcbs

 

[wfgodot]

Excellent piece by senior editor Amy Davidson, of The New Yorker:

Joe Paterno's Tears (newyorker.com)

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On ESPN, the question was whether Paterno had been “robbed of his dignity.” He had been fired over the phone; he hadn’t been given the chance to play the final game that could allow him to break a coaching record. “I didn’t think it was going to happen this way,” he said, standing outside of his house with his wife. He said that he was “disappointed.”

But what was the understanding of dignity that any of the adults in this situation had? It didn’t extend to even trying to find out the name of the child who Mike McQueary, a coaching assistant, said that he saw Sandusky rape in the football locker room shower in 2002. (Sandusky, who has denied this and other charges, was retired at the time, but had an office on campus.) That boy is simply called Victim 2 in the grand jury’s findings; McQueary guessed that he was about ten years old.
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much more at link above

 

[wfgodot]

Another excellent article, this from Charles P. Pierce at Grantland:

The Brutal Truth About Penn State (grantland.com)
The problem can't be solved by prayer or piety —
and it's far more widespread than we think

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The crimes at Penn State are about the raping of children. That is all they are about. The crimes at Penn State are about the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky, and the possibility that people lied to a grand jury about the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky, and the likelihood that most of the people who had the authority at Penn State to stop the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky proved themselves to have the moral backbone of ribbon worms.

It no longer matters if there continues to be a football program at Penn State. It no longer even matters if there continues to be a university there at all. All of these considerations are trivial by comparison to what went on in and around the Penn State football program.
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much more at link above

 

[Emeralgem]

Joe Paterno working with PR firm TMG Strategies (prdaily.com)

more at link above

Possibly to be expected, but I'm still left speechless.
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IMHO.. This move tells me Paterno is basically void when it comes down to possessing any spirituality within himself and he doesn't have a clue as to what "soul searching" is...IMHO..Seems he has spent his entire life feeding the EGO..JMHO.

 

[mahmoo]

Judge's Ties To Sandusky's Charity, Bail Questioned
myfoxphilly.com
14 Nov 2011

Judge on Sandusky case not only a volunteer for Second Mile but a donor also according to the charity's donation records:

We poured through the charity's donation records from 2009 and found that the judge who handled his preliminary arraignment gave Second Mile somewhere between $500 and $1,000 and has volunteered with the group. That's the same judge who released Sandusky on $100,000 unsecured bail.

Also in the article, PA State Rep Vereb sending letter to PA Supreme Court Chief Justice requesting that matter with Judge Dutchcot be reviewed for possible conflict of interest. FOX 29's Steve Keeley also noted:

that a Philadelphia high school baseball coach got $500,000 bail in a case on charges of allegedly molesting one child.
"Clearly this bail is not consistent with some of the more familiar cases we would have in your viewing area, and that's something that has to be reviewed. That relationship has to be reviewed," Vereb said.

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