Penn State Sandusky cover-up: AD arrested, Paterno fired, dies; cover-up charged #8

[believe09]

It makes no sense at all that Sandusky's desires should trump ex DIL desire to keep her children safe, regardless of the veracity of the charges.

These are her children, not his. Is PA a state that considers grandparents rights in custody issues? She is the decisionmaker. I personally believe that the judge reached a little too far here when it comes to the grandchildren.

 

[believe09]

Indecent Assault of a Person Less than 13 Years of Age is actually a misdemeanor that is not a "Meagan's Law" offense. Some, Unlawful Contact with Minor, which doesn't sound too bad, is actually a "Meagan's Law" charge. The Involuntary Deviant Sexual Intercourse with a Person under 16 Years of Age is a 1st degree felony and a "Meagan's Law" offense.

BBM-the wording of this charge fascinates me.

It sound like Sandusky fell on the boys by accident and found himself penetrating them by accident.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Chilling Dr. Fessel.



Can someone repost the original Indictments?

What Sandusky is alleged to have done to children is disgusting, repulsive and horrific.

Thanks in advance.

http://www.co.centre.pa.us/media/upload/SANDUSKY CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 2422 OF 2011.pdf

 

[J. J. in Phila]

It makes no sense at all that Sandusky's desires should trump ex DIL desire to keep her children safe, regardless of the veracity of the charges.

These are her children, not his. Is PA a state that considers grandparents rights in custody issues? She is the decisionmaker. I personally believe that the judge reached a little too far here when it comes to the grandchildren.

I think the grandchildren of the ex are exempted.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

BBM-the wording of this charge fascinates me.

It sound like Sandusky fell on the boys by accident and found himself penetrating them by accident.

The "involuntary" deals with the victim.

 

[ThoughtFox]

That at 130 feet and with supervision, Sandusky poses no danger to the community.

Yeah, I'm sure parents everywhere can sleep easy tonight because of Jerry's chain link fence. He wouldn't do anything stupid like trying to talk to children over the fence, or lure them into his yard using his friendly dog. No one could possibly object to their babies being under his predatory glare all day, could they? (Yes I'm being sarcastic.)

:cowcouch:

I was watching the video yesterday of Mrs. Sandusky trying to run over a reporter (classy) and it tickled me when the lawyer drove up and complained that people were walking their children through Sandusky's yard to the bus stop. Duh! I'm sure that was a happy selling point for him when he bought the place, along with the proximity to the school. But now society and these horrible parents with children near Jerry's house are somehow to blame for a predator in their midst.

Well, Happy Valentine's Day, Jerry ~ You can keep staring at children from your deck.

Oh, and I loved this quote from Jerry as he came out of court the other day:

"I've associated with thousands of young people over the years," said Sandusky, 68, the former Penn State defensive coordinator charged with 52 criminal counts involving 10 victims over 15 years. "And now, all of a sudden, because of allegations and perceptions that have been tried to be created of me, now I can't take our dog on my deck and throw out biscuits to him."

Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...-have-turned-on-him-3234743.php#ixzz1mIAr0d1L

Yeah "all of a sudden" people don't want you around their kids.
And you are so hurt by that. Call a "waaahhhhbulance."

We have really gone through the looking glass, if you ask me. This is about as backwards as society gets. I honestly don't understand why he is even getting a chance to be with his grandchildren. Let's hope the attorney takes his hatchet away from him before he closes the door.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Yeah, I'm sure parents everywhere can sleep easy tonight because of Jerry's chain link fence. He wouldn't do anything stupid like trying to talk to children over the fence, or lure them into his yard using his friendly dog. No one could possibly object to their babies being under his predatory glare all day, could they? (Yes I'm being sarcastic.)

The law does not provide for parents' sleeping safely. That is what the judge is concerned with, what the law is.

We have really gone through the looking glass, if you ask me. This is about as backwards as society gets. I honestly don't understand why he is even getting a chance to be with his grandchildren. Let's hope the attorney takes his hatchet away from him before he closes the door.

If you wish that someone is innocent until proven guilty, it is the price you pay.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Well, with supervision, it should be okay for him to be around children; he's not accused of grabbing children at gunpoint. The will be monitoring him, something that wasn't done over the last 15 years.

Supervised by the clueless people who never knew he was raping children in the basement. Yeah right!

 

[Steely Dan]

Court gives Jerry Sandusky everything he wants, dishes up his grandchildren to him on a silver platter, let's him do drive byes of his victims homes, let's him have any friends over he wants and he can keep throwing hi biscuits out in the yard for the dog while the kids are on the playground as long as he stays on the porch.



Oh and the ex-daughter in-law who does not want her kids near him....well this court found it would be best for those kids to be with Jerry but this court is differing it to the other court.

Oh yeah and Jerry can skype with everybody.

What freaking evil lurks in this case just astounds me.



http://www.co.centre.pa.us/media/up...O CROSS MOTIONS TO MODIFY BAIL CONDITIONS.pdf

Here are my favorite parts of this ruling;

Paraphrasing;

The defendant is presumed innocent and therefore cannot be treated as if he's guilty. He also can't help in his own defense without permission, so that's just like he can't help in his own defense at all?

So then I guess those things that multiple drunk driving offenders have to blow into to get the car started are illegal. After all we should presume them innocent. Monitoring anklets should be illegal too, after all the guy is presumed innocent before trial. Why are people detained without bail when people are presumed innocent?

The judge says reasonable conditions can be placed on a defendant. I guess I don't see what is unreasonable about any of the conditions he has? :banghead:

I hope this isn't used as a precedent by anyone.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

It makes no sense at all that Sandusky's desires should trump ex DIL desire to keep her children safe, regardless of the veracity of the charges.

These are her children, not his. Is PA a state that considers grandparents rights in custody issues? She is the decisionmaker. I personally believe that the judge reached a little too far here when it comes to the grandchildren.

I would like to know what this so called court-appointed guardian ad litem weighed when he said it would be in the best interest of the 3 children to go over and sit on grandpa pedophiles lap vs what? Not being around a person charged with child rape?

Totally sick and you wonder if he belongs to some of the same clubs as old Jerry.

 

[ThoughtFox]

The law does not provide for parents' sleeping safely. That is what the judge is concerned with, what the law is.

I understand about Jerry's rights - of course. I just know those parents and children have rights, too.

And what grates is that this isn't the first time a Judge has sided with Ol' Jer. Remember the woman - his homey from Second Mile - who gave him bail he would never have to pay?

Pardon me if I'm a bit cynical about the Judiciary and the way they are handling this case.

If you wish that someone is innocent until proven guilty, it is the price you pay.

No, no - I'm someone who believes fully in due process, and two sides to every case, etc.

But in my opinion, Sandusky is "not guilty" until proven otherwise. I refuse to use the word "innocent" where he is concerned.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Vomit alert.

Jerry, Dottie, and their entire family are very relieved by and pleased with the Court’s decision earlier today modifying Jerry’s bail conditions to permit him to see and otherwise communicate with most of his grandchildren with the lone exception that his communication with three of his grandchildren will be left to the discretion of the judge presiding over the custody litigation involving the parents of those children. Jerry pursued visitation with his grand kids because they missed him and wanted to see him and communicate with him.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/02/jerry_sandusky_relieved_by_jud.html

 

[Concerned Papa]

The law does not provide for parents' sleeping safely. That is what the judge is concerned with, what the law is.



If you wish that someone is innocent until proven guilty, it is the price you pay.

The law DOES provide for parent's sleeping safely. It's called NO BAIL.

THAT is what the judge should have been concerned with, and THAT is what the law allows.

What I wish, is for this particular someone with his FIFTY TWO charges relating to raping little boys to be innocent until proven guilty while BEHIND BARS.

 

[Pensfan]

And yet again a piece of garbage gets to be around some of his grandchildren. And can stand outside of his house. I guess that's so he can stare at the children at the school. All I can say is Money Talks and BS Walks.
I'm LIVID.

I'm adding IGNORANCE ABOUT CHILD PREDATORS to your "money talks". I'm livid, too.

 

[Velouria]

That at 130 feet and with supervision, Sandusky poses no danger to the community.

I understand what you're saying J.J., but I strongly disagree that Sandusky poses no threat to the community. Now if you're an adult female, chances are you're pretty safe. But I worry that Sandusky and his legal team are still attempting to intimidate witnesses. And don't get me started on his grandchildren and the poor schoolkids forced to share a fenceline with him. Heck, I'm even in favor of the SPCA doing a welfare check on his poor dog.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

The law DOES provide for parent's sleeping safely. It's called NO BAIL.

It is not legal in PA, as per the precedent cited.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I'm adding IGNORANCE ABOUT CHILD PREDATORS to your "money talks". I'm livid, too.

That truly is the problem. Jerry shows all the signs of a predator and a predator by definition needs to PREY!

There is no doubt in my mind that is exactly what he was doing throwing the dog biscuits out in the yard in front of the kids. It was a "fishing lure", look kids see the cute dog, see the little dog come on over and see the cute little dog. Come right up to the fence and you can pet him. Oh if you want to play with him you will have to go down to the gate. Hurry now it will be so much fun.

Sure it might just be a fantasy he is experiencing but I bet my bottom dollar I am right because Jerry Sandusky is a predator, he is always on the hunt, calculating his every move on everyone.

Watch a predator on the animal channel as they circle a herd of prey and watch how they chose the one they will chase. That is just what Jerry Sandusky does 24/7.

 

[Pensfan]

Warning to the community around Sandusky's home and wherever he is now allowed to travel:
Pedophiles frequently have more than one paraphilia.

The community is not safe from Sandusky because they believe he can't groom any more victims.

A growing body of evidence indicates that many or most offenders have more than one category of deviant sexual behavior. For example, it used to be assumed that incest offenders could be clearly separated from other child molesters, but current evidence indicates that a substantial percentage of child molesters offend in both spheres. There is also some evidence that many exhibitionists engage in additional deviant sexual acts, rather than exhibitionism being an isolated category of behavior, as was once assumed.
http://www.princeton.edu/futureofch...xml?journalid=62&articleid=401&sectionid=2736

 

[passionflower]

Supervised by the clueless people who never knew he was raping children in the basement. Yeah right!

may I add that supposively Mrs S was home at the time............
in this case she is useless in saving anyone, JMOO

and as for the dog........hoe can he take care of and control his dog from the porch or deck?
Just another excuse to get furthur out in the yard....dog runs to fence to see kids and creep has to go also to get his dog..........

Disaster again, this guy is planning something........he's sick of being pinned inside of the house and it is winter...........what happens when nice weather comes, huh?
I am so angry! JMOO

 

[passionflower]

These judges make me SICK!