Penn State Sandusky scandal: AD arrested, Paterno, Spanier fired; coverup charged #3

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Now Dr. Drew is going to "spin" that Spanier fought for the exemption from the Right to Know Law. He will conveniently forget to mention that ALL state universities in PA fought for this exemption. He will forget to mention that their employees didn't want all their compensation posted on the internet.

Pennsfan, I can tell you feel strongly about this issue. May I mention something, though? Folks in the military and civilians who work for the federal government don't have any real privacy about their compensation. All anyone who wants to know needs to do is pull up the table and read it across. Doesn't make anyone right or wrong, just some perspective.
And one other thing, I'm pretty sure the issues that are being discussed on this thread must be awful for a Penn State fan. Just wanted to pass on a bit of gentle understanding.
 
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Pennsfan, I can tell you feel strongly about this issue.
And one other thing, I'm pretty sure the issues that are being discussed on this thread must be awful for a Penn State fan. Just wanted to pass on a bit of gentle understanding.

I was just thinking the same thing about five minutes ago.
 
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This is from the link I just posted re: Mike Madeira:


"I don't know what was in the report that Ray saw," Madeira said. "Unless we know different, it's unfair to suggest that Ray didn't do something that he should have done because I don't know what he had in front of him. He's the one who talked to the victims. He saw the other portions of the investigation that I am not privy to."

Read more: http://www.hanfordsentinel.com/spor...4ee-5685-bb2b-091cb0cd4703.html#ixzz1dvf58n87

BBM
 
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This story gives me hope that all victims will step forward and put these monsters away for good!!!!

I keep thinking about an eye-opener of a statistic I heard relayed by one of the talking heads over the course of the last week:


On average, a child has to tell SEVEN adults before anyone believes them and/or takes measures to stop the abuse.
 
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If his wife's brother was Sandusky's adopted child, wouldn't that make her Sandusky's adopted daughter. Or were the two siblings seperated and adopted by different parents.

She, and her brother, were adopted by different families.
 
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The irony is, I don't even like college football.
 
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The irony is, I don't even like college football.

I had never heard the name Joe Paterno until this story broke. I think most people in the country had not heard of him.
 
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I keep thinking about an eye-opener of a statistic I heard relayed by one of the talking heads over the course of the last week:


On average, a child has to tell SEVEN adults before anyone believes them and/or takes measures to stop the abuse.

I did not know that-Thanks for sharing!!
 
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Good article http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/s...sandusky-investigators.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1 Working off the brief mention on an Internet forum where people chatted about Penn State athletics, according to the two people with knowledge of the case, investigators narrowed their list of coaches likely to have seen something to Mike McQueary, then an assistant coach and the football program’s recruiting coordinator.

State College is a close-knit community. Word would get around that a Penn State coach had met with investigators. So investigators set up a meeting in an out-of-the-way parking lot, according to those with knowledge of the case.

There, one day a little over a year ago, McQueary unburdened himself, the two people said. He needed little prompting.

He told of a horrific scene he had stumbled upon as a graduate assistant one Friday night in March 2002: a naked boy, about 10, hands pressed against the locker room wall of the Lasch Football Building, being raped by Sandusky. McQueary was explicit and unequivocal, the people said. He had told Paterno, the team’s longtime and widely beloved head coach, about the incident the next day, but he was filled with regret that nothing had happened.

“This had been weighing on him for a very long time, and our guys felt he was relieved to get it off his chest,” one law enforcement official said. “When he had the opportunity to make it right, he told the truth.”
 
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I had never heard the name Joe Paterno until this story broke. I think most people in the country had not heard of him.

me neither!!
 
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I keep thinking about an eye-opener of a statistic I heard relayed by one of the talking heads over the course of the last week:


On average, a child has to tell SEVEN adults before anyone believes them and/or takes measures to stop the abuse.

Sometimes, going to the authorities doesn't even help. It took a parent I am acquainted with seven years to get a legal doc stating the abuser couldn't see the abused. Seven years of psychologists and court dates and abuse and similar stories from another child and nothing happened. Know what it took? The actual rape and subsequent rape kit. The poor girl's word wasn't good enough. Seven whole years the PA C&Y and legal system failed a little girl and granted weekly overnight visitation to her abuser and ultimately her rapist while her protector was held in contempt repeatedly. Yay system... This girl's not even a teenager yet...
 
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Thanks for posting this. There's one part I'm kind of confused about but I'm going to go back and reread the first part.

One paragraph that stopped me in my tracks was this:


Officials at the Second Mile, the charity for at-risk children that Sandusky founded and that prosecutors say he used to target victims, reported that several years of the organization’s records were missing and had perhaps been stolen.
 
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I had never heard the name Joe Paterno until this story broke. I think most people in the country had not heard of him.

O/T..Seriously? I don't know the names of too many football coaches, but I cannot imagine anyone not knowing who Paterno is and where he coached.. He was head coach at Penn State since 1966..Thats basically my entire adult life.. JMHO
 
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I did not know that-Thanks for sharing!!

You're welcome.

The other statistic they mentioned that night was that, on average, 100 people are affected by the acts of one pedophile. I really need to find a link for that one because I may not be portraying it accurately.

In any case, I was thinking about it this morning when I was reading an article about this case. The tentacles seem endless.
 
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