Penn State Sandusky scandal: AD arrested, Paterno, Spanier fired; coverup charged #5

[LRinCA]

Why is there not a federal or state investigation into the business, The Second Mile, that Sandusky started and then used to find his victims for possibly 34 years?

And why didn't they raid the business so as to freeze the assets, records, etc.? As it is, they gave them two years to tidy things up/move things around.

 

[LRinCA]

Now flipping on the plea deal: http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/jerry_sanduskys_lawyer_clarifi.html

From the link:

And Joe Amendola, the lawyer lambasted by some for his strategy in defending the former Nittany Lions assistant football coach, can see what might lie ahead. At some point, Amendola says, he may need to have a conversation with Sandusky about pleading guilty.


I've been out of the loop on this for about a week but if I wanted to be conspiracy-minded about this I would wonder if Sandusky isn't taking the fall for something much, much bigger. I'm not saying I think he's innocent. I don't think he is. I keep going back to the line about some kids not taking to his special program or method (or however it was worded).

 

[Concerned Papa]

I don’t think it’s any coincidence that during the same time frame of "last summer" vs "several weeks ago", Sandusky was having dinner with these victims AND attorney Amendola was seeing one of the same victims and his family in his office, WHILE A GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION WAS UNDERWAY.

Amendola, as part of an outline of his defense, said Victims Six and Two had dinner with the Sandusky family last summer.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/attorney_for_victim_six_says_d.html

Attorney Joe Amendola also said that, several weeks ago, a man who says he is Victim Two came to his office. "He sat here with his mother and brother and said he was not a victim," Amendola said.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/sanduskys_attorney_says_severa.html

I hope at some point attorney Amendola is faced with having to answer these three questions posed by Victim #6’s new attorney, Howard A. Janet.

“Why was he arranging to meet with victims while under investigation?”

“Was he trying to tamper with or improperly influence potential witnesses?”

“Was trying to use the victims’ attendance at dinner to discredit their accusations against him part of a devious strategic plan of defense?”

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/attorney_for_victim_six_says_d.html

It seems obvious to me that this was indeed a “devious strategic plan of defense” which I believe can be more accurately described as witness tampering.

 

[Concerned Papa]

Amendola, in response to Janet's statements, said the dinner was a friendly get-together that included Sandusky's wife, Dottie, "who knew both men well," he said. "Dottie thought it was a pleasant evening among friends."

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/attorney_for_victim_six_says_d.html

Wonder how that lovely little dinner is sittin with Miss Dottie NOW?

 

[wfgodot]

He's still talking. And talking. Results of four-hour interview with NYT's Jo Becker:

Center of Penn State Scandal, Sandusky Tells His Own Story (New York Times, 03 December 2011)

 

[Concerned Papa]

He's still talking. And talking. Results of four-hour interview with NYT's Jo Becker:

Center of Penn State Scandal, Sandusky Tells His Own Story (New York Times, 03 December 2011)

Prosecutors have gotta love these interviews this freak's attorney keeps allowing him to give:

In the grand jury report, prosecutors cited Mr. Sandusky’s attempts to reach some of his accusers. He acknowledged that he reached out to at least one, but said he thought the young man might be a character witness on his behalf, and was unaware that prosecutors had listed him as a victim.

Unaware he was listed as a victim?

Joe Amendola declined comment saying he has not read the entire lawsuit, but he confirmed when they got word of the Attorney General’s investigation of Sandusky they hired a private investigator.

“Starting with the first allegation as set forth in the presentment regarding alleged Victim 1, yes we had a private investigator check in on that about three years ago.”

http://www.wjactv.com/news/news/sanduskys-attorney-reacts-lawsuit/nFqnT/

For crying out loud, three years ago they hired a private investigator to "check in on that", starting with Victim #1, and this clown is trying to claim he didn't know who the prosecutors had listed as victims?

Keep on talking :floorlaugh:

 

[ynotdivein]

He's still talking. And talking. Results of four-hour interview with NYT's Jo Becker:

Center of Penn State Scandal, Sandusky Tells His Own Story (New York Times, 03 December 2011)

I spent some time yesterday revisiting the PA clergy sex abuse thread, especially some of the "case studies" of these predators. The parallels between the behaviors of the clergy perps and Sandusky's behavior are shocking (and I might add, revolting). The grooming, the denials, the half-admissions, the complete failure to change the behaviors even when it was apparent that others had suspicions at the least and full knowledge at best...

Am only three paragraphs into this article (thanks WF!) and I just can't stop thinking about that. :banghead:

 

[ynotdivein]

From http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html?pagewanted=3&_r=2

"“I used to have a lot of contact with a lot of people and so that circle is diminished, and as it diminished, you know Bo is still there,” he said of his dog. “And I swear he understands. I swear he knows. And you know I love him dearly for that.”"

:shocked2:

Not Dottie, Jerry? Wow.

 

[Concerned Papa]

From http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html?pagewanted=3&_r=2

"“I used to have a lot of contact with a lot of people and so that circle is diminished, and as it diminished, you know Bo is still there,” he said of his dog. “And I swear he understands. I swear he knows. And you know I love him dearly for that.”"

:shocked2:

Not Dottie, Jerry? Wow.

Poor dog......

 

[stilettos]

From http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html?pagewanted=3&_r=2

"“I used to have a lot of contact with a lot of people and so that circle is diminished, and as it diminished, you know Bo is still there,” he said of his dog. “And I swear he understands. I swear he knows. And you know I love him dearly for that.”"

:shocked2:

Not Dottie, Jerry? Wow.

I am kinda worried about the dog.

 

[Filly]

I am kinda worried about the dog.

Man, I thought the same thing when I saw part of that interview.

Creep factor off the charts.

He uses the phrase "Good grief". I think "Who are you, Charlie Brown?"

On an aside I wondered whose house that was where he was interviewed.

Basically this dude seriously believes himself IMO. If he don't he's doing a good job of "acting".

Once again the "Are you sexually attracted to young boys?" comes into question. This dude trips up and looks to his lawyer who finally butts in.

 

[Tipstaff]

From http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html?pagewanted=3&_r=2

"“I used to have a lot of contact with a lot of people and so that circle is diminished, and as it diminished, you know Bo is still there,” he said of his dog. “And I swear he understands. I swear he knows. And you know I love him dearly for that.”"

:shocked2:

Not Dottie, Jerry? Wow.

Sandusky's comments ring like a backward or subconscious admissions. He sends my hinky meter way off the chart.

 

[Concerned Papa]

Man, I thought the same thing when I saw part of that interview.

Creep factor off the charts.

He uses the phrase "Good grief". I think "Who are you, Charlie Brown?"

On an aside I wondered whose house that was where he was interviewed.

Basically this dude seriously believes himself IMO. If he don't he's doing a good job of "acting".

Once again the "Are you sexually attracted to young boys?" comes into question. This dude trips up and looks to his lawyer who finally butts in.

BBM

First sentence, second page of the article;

During the interview, conducted at the home of his lawyer....

 

[Filly]

BBM

First sentence, second page of the article;

Thanks CP. I saw it on TV, and haven't read it yet. Will do.

 

[Steely Dan]

You can listen to the interview here; http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...20111202-sandusky-audio.html?ref=ncaafootball

 

[Steely Dan]

Why is there not a federal or state investigation into the business, The Second Mile, that Sandusky started and then used to find his victims for possibly 34 years?

There is an investigation into second mile going on, but I agree a Federal investigation is needed; http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/s...ky-tells-his-own-story.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2


...It is unclear whether the supervisors or directors of the charity knew of Mr. Sandusky’s setting up bank accounts or giving away donated gifts. Investigators with the Pennsylvania attorney general’s office have subpoenaed the financial records of the charity, but say they have been alarmed to learn that some records from some years are missing....

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/s...y-founded-by-sandusky-plans-to-fold.html?_r=1

...On Sunday, the charity’s board of directors authorized the hiring of Lynne M. Abraham and the law firm Archer & Greiner to conduct an independent investigation into the Second Mile. The investigation will seek to discover the extent of contact Sandusky had with children who went through the program, when the program learned about various allegations against Sandusky, and how it handled them....

 

[BennyProfane]

This looks like another peculiarity in Amendola's narrative on the dinner with Victim Six:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...sky-accuser-says-police-knew-of-recent-dinner
He told The Associated Press on Friday that another dinner guest that night was the man identified in the grand jury report as Victim No. 2, who Sandusky is accused of sodomizing in a Penn State shower.
Janet said another man identified as a victim in the grand jury report attended, but he did not specify who that was.

If Howard Janet is representing Victim Six, and if Victims Two & Six allegedly don't know each other, how did Victim Six know that his dinner companion that night was any victim at all, specifically Victim Two? According to the GJP, the only two victims who knew each other were Victims Six & Five.


From the same article. Seems like Amendola is taking a passive-aggressive approach to outing victims(?):
The grand jury report said the boy had not been located. Amendola has said he believes the alleged victim is being represented by a State College attorney who did not respond to messages left by the AP late Friday.

Maybe Amendola isn't willing to take the fall for outing the kid individually, so instead he outs the kid's lawyer. Knowing the tabloids (and AP) and how they behave, it figures that they'll dog the lawyer until he/she meets with someone who fits the profile of a Sandusky victim -- white male, early twenties. Right now, it's only phone tag, but how long will that last?
If the guy's name & photograph are splashed across the cover of a tabloid (don't be too shocked, TMZ has done it), that would serve as a thinly-veiled threat to other victims who have not yet approached LE to keep quiet.

 

[concentric]

I noticed that "reached out to" has been used as a descriptive term in several different ways by JS in news interviews. Odd, and disturbing IMO. Sorry, I haven't been able to put together a list of all of the ways he has used this term. Search it in connection with him, and you will begin to see.

 

[ynotdivein]

Interesting points, Benny. And by the way, :welcome: to WS!

I've been scratching my head over Amendola's approach to this ever since he allowed the Costas interview. The man has a plan, no doubt about that. IMO, it seems to involve:

1 - Get Jerry out there in the media to tell "his story"/counteract the claims in the GJ presentment & do image rehabilitation--look, he's just this big loveable misunderstood lug of a guy (though this may seem insane to those of us who follow these things closely, think about all the potential jurors and just regular citizens who don't, and who are only reading whatever story pops up on the top of MSM websites?); and

2 - Attempt to discredit the victims, by any means necessary.

 

[concentric]

I know there are people in this world who still choose to ignore, lessen, distract from, pass the blame or outright deny that children are sexually abused, despite the overwhelming evidence from years of hearing about these cases in the news.

They simply do not want to confront the truth. So, these types of persons might choose to latch onto the interviews by JS in the media, as reinforcing their denial.

However, I think there are enough of us who have either been victims, or who have known victims, who have not been afraid of confronting the truth, no matter how assaultive that is on our minds, no matter what memories these crimes dredge up. We know what it is like to live in hell on earth, and we are for the victims.