Penn State Sandusky scandal: AD arrested, Paterno, Spanier fired; coverup charged #5

[Tipstaff]

Sandusky is wearing a Penn State jacket as he is being arrested for those who can't or didn't see the video.

 

[Tipstaff]

Wonder what the hotel staff thought seeing Sandusky bringing a kid into a room. You would think in a small town like that people would know who Sandusky was?

Didn't Paterno own a hotel there?

This is where, IMO, Paterno is morally culpable. He was aware of the 'Sandusky Problem' and Sandusky brought kids to the Tofftree hotel where the Penn State team stayed before home games....among other sightings of Sandusky with young boys long after the shower rape was reported to Paterno.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
#BREAKING #Sandusky atty: "We are working on posting bail... & we anticipate having Jerry released sometime tomorrow."
38 minutes ago

https://twitter.com/#!/PeterAlexander

 

[SuziQ]

Alleged victim says cries for help from Sandusky basement went unheeded

By M. Alex Johnson, msnbc.com
One of the new alleged victims in the sexual harassment case against former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky told a grand jury that Sandusky's wife ignored his screams for help while Sandusky raped him in the basement of their home

More:
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...for-help-from-sandusky-basement-went-unheeded

 

[octobermoon]

Alleged victim says cries for help from Sandusky basement went unheeded

By M. Alex Johnson, msnbc.com
One of the new alleged victims in the sexual harassment case against former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky told a grand jury that Sandusky's wife ignored his screams for help while Sandusky raped him in the basement of their home

More:
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...for-help-from-sandusky-basement-went-unheeded

BBM

sexual harassment????? are you kidding me!

*not at you SuziQ

 

[Dr.Fessel]

This is where, IMO, Paterno is morally culpable. He was aware of the 'Sandusky Problem' and Sandusky brought kids to the Tofftree hotel where the Penn State team stayed before home games....among other sightings of Sandusky with young boys long after the shower rape was reported to Paterno.

I agree about Paterno being culpable, victim 9 was after Paterno was notified of the rape in the showers and nothing was done about it. Just the fact that Paterno called Curley and Shultz and told them to come to his home so he could "report" the incident shows who was in charge and who had the power.IMO

 

[Reader]

Here is the Criminal Complaint:

http://enews.attorneygeneral.gov/uploads/Gerald-A-Sandusky-Complaint2-12-7-2011.pdf

Offenses occurred from Jan. 1997 to Dec. 2008 for victims #9 and #10 in various places:

2 counts of Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse

2 counts of Indecent Assault

2 counts of Unlawful Contact with Minor

2 counts of Corruption of Minors

2 counts of Endangering the Welfare of Children

 

[SuziQ]

BBM

sexual harassment????? are you kidding me!

*not at you SuziQ

I know. Why are some afraid to call it what it is?

Does anyone feel that DS might be facing some charges of her own soon?

 

[Steely Dan]

I agree about Paterno being culpable, victim 9 was after Paterno was notified of the rape in the showers and nothing was done about it. Just the fact that Paterno called Curley and Shultz and told them to come to his home so he could "report" the incident shows who was in charge and who had the power.IMO

IMO, Joe Paterno could have asked for a golden Popemobile like car to bring him onto the field every Saturday and he would have gotten it. I have a feeling that if Paterno wanted Penn State to do something they did it with few questions asked.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

BBM

sexual harassment????? are you kidding me!

*not at you SuziQ

The reporter on that fine piece of work has a twitter account

https://twitter.com/#!/MAlexJohnson

 

[Steely Dan]

The reporter on that fine piece of work has a twitter account

https://twitter.com/#!/MAlexJohnson

Here's his latest tweet;

MAlexJohnson Alex Johnson
Jerry #Sandusky's charity has announced layoffs. Details to come on #msnbc.
7 minutes ago

 

[SuziQ]

Gah, it's like this one kid was kept in the basement as a sex slave or something. The entire case is is demented and wierd, but being kept in the basement and not being allowed upstairs just makes it worse. What was the sudden change? Ok, I'll come out and say it. Did DS, knowing what was going on, put her foot down and say don't bring your boys upstairs anymore or something?

IMO, the time has come to ask what DS knew and when she knew it.

 

[Reader]

ganimSara Ganim


Second Mile announced staff reduction amidst significant financial loss




1 hour ago via Twitter for iPhone

 

[Concerned Papa]

To throw them, he likely put one hand around their chest and one between their legs/under their bum. I'd bet they didn't like being thrown and little girls weren't thrown as often as boys.

~Respectfully Shortened~

Sandusky has repeatedly stated that boys also "wanted” him. Boys wanted him to hug them, throw them (likely by putting one hand between their legs and another around their chest), wrestle with him, give them back rubs in bed, and etc... Sandusky stated, “In my mind, there wasn't inappropriate behavior." He characterized his experiences with children as close and "precious times.”

Looks like you NAILED this one Pensfan!

From the new GJR:

Great perception and analysis.

 

[octobermoon]

Gah, it's like this one kid was kept in the basement as a sex slave or something. The entire case is is demented and wierd, but being kept in the basement and not being allowed upstairs just makes it worse. What was the sudden change? Ok, I'll come out and say it. Did DS, knowing what was going on, put her foot down and say don't bring your boys upstairs anymore or something?

IMO, the time has come to ask what DS knew and when she knew it.

The silence from DS is telling.

 

[Reader]

This is where, IMO, Paterno is morally culpable. He was aware of the 'Sandusky Problem' and Sandusky brought kids to the Tofftree hotel where the Penn State team stayed before home games....among other sightings of Sandusky with young boys long after the shower rape was reported to Paterno.

Right! And you know all the football players and staff, including Paterno, knew he had a child with him staying in his room. This happened with several of the children according to the first AG report.

And he took a couple of them to bowl games out of the state also. This is what the FBI is investigating.

 

[Reader]

The silence from DS is telling.

I'm hoping it is because she is under a subpeona for the
preliminary hearing.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Gah, it's like this one kid was kept in the basement as a sex slave or something. The entire case is is demented and wierd, but being kept in the basement and not being allowed upstairs just makes it worse. What was the sudden change? Ok, I'll come out and say it. Did DS, knowing what was going on, put her foot down and say don't bring your boys upstairs anymore or something?

IMO, the time has come to ask what DS knew and when she knew it.

I don't want to say that these new charges are "worse" than the previous ones, because all of it is a nightmare. But hearing this new stuff over and over on TV this afternoon was disturbing and each new detail more horrifying.

To me it sounds like kidnapping. This was a foster child who had lost his mother a short time before - omg!!! And to know there was a woman upstairs who wouldn't respond makes me physically ill - they should charge her with aiding and abetting!

And if she knew the kid never left the basement and had his meals down there, then charge her with false imprisonment or something!!!

What infuriates me the most is that we are talking about adult authority figures who had total control of these children. And beyond that, the community felt they were above reproach and they were treated like royalty. We can only imagine how helpless and scared these kids must have felt.

 

[Concerned Papa]

ganimSara Ganim


Second Mile announced staff reduction amidst significant financial loss




1 hour ago via Twitter for iPhone

They need to reduce it down to ZERO, then start over with a new sense of purpose and call it The EXTRA Mile.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Right! And you know all the football players and staff, including Paterno, knew he had a child with him staying in his room. This happened with several of the children according to the first AG report.

And he took a couple of them to bowl games out of the state also. This is what the FBI is investigating.

Is there a statute of limitations on kidnapping charges? Because it's sounding more and more as if he kept these children locked up away from everyone.

The tricky thing is whether the parents or foster parents signed some type of parental consent so the kids could stay with Sandusky either at his home or out of state. Of course, parental consent means the person is supposed to act as a guardian, not as a molester and rapist.