Penn State Sandusky Trial #11 (Verdict - GUILTY!)

[seattlechiquita]

:floorlaugh:

"If [Dottie Sandusky] had been in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963, she probably would have told the Warren Commission she heard a firecracker, and then the president's hat fell off."

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/the-side/online-humor/jim-norton-please-be-offended-10087668#ixzz1z1zgk6OH

omg he is hilarious :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[waltzingmatilda]

:floorlaugh:

"If [Dottie Sandusky] had been in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963, she probably would have told the Warren Commission she heard a firecracker, and then the president's hat fell off."

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/the-side/online-humor/jim-norton-please-be-offended-10087668#ixzz1z1zgk6OH

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Thanks for posting the humorous piece, IzzyBlanche!

wm

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Well at least the state of PA is goin to make sure that Dottie is taken care of and ol Jer has snacks in prison-
Sandusky received a lump sum payment of $148,271.71 and gets a lifetime pension of $4,908.17 a month, SERS said. It provided the data after a Reuters request under the state's Right-To-Know Law

And if thats not bad enough--they go on to say-

Stripping Sandusky of his pension would mean his wife Dottie would lose it as well, "and she certainly didn't commit any crime," Stein said.

I think he MEANT to say-she hasn't been charged yet....but ol Jer could still turn on her -for a bigger cell-more treats...

http://www.mcall.com/news/nationwor...sky-keeps-pa-pension-20120627,0,1460025.story

 

[bayouland]

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/child-abuse-expert-how-many-more-sandusky-victims-are-there/

SNIP

(CBS) I’ve been approached by several people on Twitter and email asking for information about how many boys Jerry Sandusky actually molested. I’ve also been asked about the age at which predators start preying on children. We know that he was found guilty of sexually abusing and raping 10 boys.

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

:floorlaugh:

"If [Dottie Sandusky] had been in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963, she probably would have told the Warren Commission she heard a firecracker, and then the president's hat fell off."

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/the-side/online-humor/jim-norton-please-be-offended-10087668#ixzz1z1zgk6OH

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[BrownRice]

Oh, I beg to differ when a 68 year old man earns himself 45 guilty counts and 445 years, indeed, he should be "locked up forever." mo

Heck ya. He should never be released. Even if he lives to be 100 years old and is hooked up to tubes and wires. NEVER should he walk (or be rolled) out of prison. NEVER.

And, his pension(s) should be stopped immediately. Dottie can got get a job if she needs to support herself. Or her adopted children can support her.

 

[Pensfan]

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/child-abuse-expert-how-many-more-sandusky-victims-are-there/

SNIP

(CBS) I’ve been approached by several people on Twitter and email asking for information about how many boys Jerry Sandusky actually molested. I’ve also been asked about the age at which predators start preying on children. We know that he was found guilty of sexually abusing and raping 10 boys.

Here is a frightening answer for CBS:

If he follows the norm (but that should be abnorm) for fixated pedophiles, he had a specific preference and this seemed to be boys prepubescent to 15-years of age.

Abel's and Rouleau’s study found that in 561 fixated pedophiles, they had an average of 281 offenses and an average of 150 victims.

Abel, G., and Rouleau, J. (1990), The Nature and Extent of Sexual Assault: In W. L. Marshall, D.R. Laws, & H.E. Barbaree (Eds.), Handbook of Sexual Assault: Issues, Theories, and Treatment of the Offender (pp. 9-12). New York, NY: Plenum Press.

 

[Pensfan]

Heck ya. He should never be released. Even if he lives to be 100 years old and is hooked up to tubes and wires. NEVER should he walk (or be rolled) out of prison. NEVER.

And, his pension(s) should be stopped immediately. Dottie can got get a job if she needs to support herself. Or her adopted children can support her.

If Jer didn't put their assets in her name or hide them, Dottie might be moving to a cardboard box. Bankruptcy laws in PA allow people to keep their home, 12 chickens and a few other bizarre things, but she won't be able to pay the taxes, repairs, or utilities on her home for very long if all her assets are given to the victims.

 

[Pensfan]

Oh, I beg to differ when a 68 year old man earns himself 45 guilty counts and 445 years, indeed, he should be "locked up forever." mo

And regarding the civil suits cropping up against The Second Mile, I sure hope they're in time enough to keep the rest of the coffers intact. Weren't they worth substantially more just a few short months ago? Arrow Ministries, pfft, I'm sure the Raykovitz's are fresh rumps in their boardrooms. Essentially, those "child advocate" are stealing from children who need it worse than any they could possibly "minister" too. They are shameful human beings, imo.

And, given their anti-victim behavior, they better hope their names are completely clear in all this mess. jmo

Have the Raykovitz's already relocated to Houston? (it's my bet that's where they're headed-- follow those millions, between husband and wife, I don't see them willing to let go of half a mil. a year because of a little "negative publicity.")

The figure that came up for me regarding TSM's worth (last fall) and like 13.5 million. So... I'd like to see a forensic accountant get involved here.

:moo:


My feeling is Jerry's victims need to be compensated and helped to move past the devastation that rained down on them from TSM, PennState, and any culpable adult who made it possible for Sandusky to kill the soul of their childhoods and early adulthoods. My heart supports those victims. :heartbeat:

bbm
Omg. I hadn't thought of that. Good call, but just sickening!

Somebody lives in a half a million dollar home. This could pay for some of the therapy needed for good ol' Jer's numerous victims.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/714-Rosslyn-Rd-Boalsburg-PA-16827/75214135_zpid/

 

[Rlaub44]

Oh, I beg to differ when a 68 year old man earns himself 45 guilty counts and 445 years, indeed, he should be "locked up forever." mo

And regarding the civil suits cropping up against The Second Mile, I sure hope they're in time enough to keep the rest of the coffers intact. Weren't they worth substantially more just a few short months ago? Arrow Ministries, pfft, I'm sure the Raykovitz's are fresh rumps in their boardrooms. Essentially, those "child advocate" are stealing from children who need it worse than any they could possibly "minister" too. They are shameful human beings, imo.

And, given their anti-victim behavior, they better hope their names are completely clear in all this mess. jmo

Have the Raykovitz's already relocated to Houston? (it's my bet that's where they're headed-- follow those millions, between husband and wife, I don't see them willing to let go of half a mil. a year because of a little "negative publicity.")

The figure that came up for me regarding TSM's worth (last fall) and like 13.5 million. So... I'd like to see a forensic accountant get involved here.

:moo:


My feeling is Jerry's victims need to be compensated and helped to move past the devastation that rained down on them from TSM, PennState, and any culpable adult who made it possible for Sandusky to kill the soul of their childhoods and early adulthoods. My heart supports those victims. :heartbeat:

Regarding the bolded section:

I did notice that Dr. Raykovitz's profile is conspicuously missing from the website for MidStep Child Development center, where he was previously prominently featured.

The current site:
http://www.midstep.com/

And if it works, the same website from Feb 2011:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110202142831/http://www.midstep.com/

Whether he is taking a leave, laying low, or if there is another explanation is unclear. I can't imagine any children's charity taking a chance on him anytime soon, as I truly don't believe the other shoe has dropped yet regarding his shirking his professional responsiblities in not taking action on Sandusky.

 

[elmomom]

More info about the Penn State Pedo Gang's pensions
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/state-pension-possible-for-sandusky-despite-conviction/

 

[Pensfan]

Regarding the bolded section:

I did notice that Dr. Raykovitz's profile is conspicuously missing from the website for MidStep Child Development center, where he was previously prominently featured.

The current site:
http://www.midstep.com/

And if it works, the same website from Feb 2011:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110202142831/http://www.midstep.com/

Whether he is taking a leave, laying low, or if there is another explanation is unclear. I can't imagine any children's charity taking a chance on him anytime soon, as I truly don't believe the other shoe has dropped yet regarding his shirking his professional responsiblities in not taking action on Sandusky.

Apparently he was punted or changed jobs. He is now listed with this group:
Scenery Park Psychology Group
110 Regent Court
State College, Pa.

Here's an interesting article:
http://www.sumptionandwyland.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=57&rid=76

 

[Minette]

Here is a frightening answer for CBS:

If he follows the norm (but that should be abnorm) for fixated pedophiles, he had a specific preference and this seemed to be boys prepubescent to 15-years of age.

Abel's and Rouleau’s study found that in 561 fixated pedophiles, they had an average of 281 offenses and an average of 150 victims.

Abel, G., and Rouleau, J. (1990), The Nature and Extent of Sexual Assault: In W. L. Marshall, D.R. Laws, & H.E. Barbaree (Eds.), Handbook of Sexual Assault: Issues, Theories, and Treatment of the Offender (pp. 9-12). New York, NY: Plenum Press.

That doesn't sound like someone who will just 'stop' as he gets older, now does it? It is also the reason, IMO, that child molesters should never be allowed out of prison once they are found and convicted. They can't be fixed.

Or rather, they *could* be 'fixed' but that wasn't what I meant and I'm not sure it would remove the fixation anyway.

And think about this: for every victim of a pedophile, the damage just spreads out from there. The family members of the victim, the police officers who have to investigate and learn every horrible detail, the doctors or therapists who treat the victims for physical or psychological harm, the DA who has to become intimately familiar with horror, the jury members who have to listen as unspeakable acts are described, and it just goes on from there. ALL are harmed by the acts of a monster. And I'm convinced that when the victims do NOT speak out, the damage to them and their loved ones is even greater.

I just don't see any good that comes from trying to 'mainstream' known pedophiles back into society.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

When Jerry is released, 10-year-old boys won't remember his headlines. With the internet, Jerry can create himself a new identity and start handing out gifts to new young friends that he meets online. I think he will be deceased from cardiovascular problems before that time, but if not, at least his testosterone will have decreased from aging and the chronic stress of prison life.

He'll be on parole and Meagan's List. A computer won't be an option.

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

He'll be on parole and Meagan's List. A computer won't be an option.

“As a Pennsylvania taxpayer and a lawyer for one of the victims, this doesn’t seem right,” said Tom Kline who represents Sandusky victim five. “It appears that you could do an awful lot of heinous crimes so long as they do not relate to your official duties in your public employee capacity.”

Ummm JJ.....wanted you to read this-JUST in case you were considering the triple homicide (JUST KIDDING) -really just wanted you to read this -lol!!

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/sandusky-may-keep-state-pension-despite-conviction/

 

[J. J. in Phila]

“As a Pennsylvania taxpayer and a lawyer for one of the victims, this doesn’t seem right,” said Tom Kline who represents Sandusky victim five. “It appears that you could do an awful lot of heinous crimes so long as they do not relate to your official duties in your public employee capacity.”

Ummm JJ.....wanted you to read this-JUST in case you were considering the triple homicide (JUST KIDDING) -really just wanted you to read this -lol!!

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/sandusky-may-keep-state-pension-despite-conviction/

Even if I commit cannibalism, so long as it's not my former clients from the welfare office, I can still collect my pension.

Now, I will ask you Google the name Marie Noe, and consider this: I live within three miles of her.

 

[LinasK]

What they do to little kids or what they seek from them bears no resemblance whatsoever to sexual affection, IMO. I think classifying pedophilia as a disorder or mental illness ( the opposite of health is illness) and characterizing pedophiles a big, goofy, immature adults who turn to kids because they don't have the capacity or health to have relationships with adults, is b.s. and is a huge slap in the face of victims everywhere. Sometimes, it's just evil. And when the psychiatric community or psychological community pathologizes evil, it leads to excusing it.

For this reason, pedophiles have been deemed, by psychologists, repeatedly, no longer a danger to society and released from prison.

In any event, only some experts believe pedophilia is caused or related to arrested emotional development (which in turn, is related to the argument that they seek attention and affection from kids rather than adults). I find it to be an insulting and disgusting apologist argument.



BBM. That's an excellent question. I don't know but it would make a huge difference. I'm going to review those sentencing guidelines now. I will say this again, though: It is clear by Amendola's petition that the sentences do not have to be concurrent. So, while someone is unlikely, in general, to get more than 60 months for ISDI, when there are multiple counts connected to multiple victims that occurred on different dates in different years, I think the argument for consecutive sentences is stronger.

As far as whether or not Sandusky will remain a danger in 10 or 20 years or not, well, we don't know that his appetite for destroying little lives has slowed down. He's got a whole crop of grandkids now. And we will likely never know how many victims he has actually had.

In any event, I have seen too many cases of old pedophiles to think the risk is worth it.

But let's put aside risk for a moment. That is certainly not the only determining factor in sentencing a criminal. Sandusky irrevocably altered innocent and extremely vulnerable young children. He damaged them permanently, no matter how strong they are or how well they heal. I'm not into torture or revenge but shouldn't Sandusky pay for what he did to those little lives? Shouldn't he give up his freedom for the rest of his life as a small pittance for the abuse he inflicted on children?

I agree with you that to say Sandusky wouldn't be a threat if/when he is released "because he'll be an old man"- is extremely misguided. The urges are still there, and he can still molest using his hands/his mouth, even if he can't "get it up" anymore!!! This angers me, because it's the exact reaction my father had when I told him my uncle molested me, he didn't get it!!!!!:banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[Quiche]

Apparently he was punted or changed jobs. He is now listed with this group:
Scenery Park Psychology Group
110 Regent Court
State College, Pa.

Here's an interesting article:
http://www.sumptionandwyland.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=57&rid=76

This was a fascinating read-- I bookmarked it to reference when all the other hits the fan. Thanks for finding it!

It sounds to me like the Raykovitz's are skating on this ice, imo. I'll bet the Feds are looking at them rather closely. :fence:

 

[Pensfan]

This was a fascinating read-- I bookmarked it to reference when all the other hits the fan. Thanks for finding it!

It sounds to me like the Raykovitz's are skating on this ice, imo. I'll bet the Feds are looking at them rather closely. :fence:

Maybe at $334,000 in home improvements last year?
http://www.trulia.com/homes/Pennsylvania/Boalsburg/sold/20881188-714-Rosslyn-Rd-Boalsburg-PA-16827

I agree with you that to say Sandusky wouldn't be a threat if/when he is released "because he'll be an old man"- is extremely misguided. The urges are still there, and he can still molest using his hands/his mouth, even if he can't "get it up" anymore!!! This angers me, because it's the exact reaction my father had when I told him my uncle molested me, he didn't get it!!!!!:banghead::banghead::banghead:

I'm very sorry that this happened to you and a most important person didn't listen. (hugs)

 

[Minette]

LinasK, what Pensfan said. I understand, sadly, I do. Hugs to you, and all who went through this.