Penn State Sandusky Trial #12 (GUILTY-post verdict discussion)

[pinktoes]

CDT's headline:
Police investigate 'suspicious activity' at Jerry Sandusky home

Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/07/...#storylink=omni_popular#wgt=pop#storylink=cpy

Late at night over the weekend. I'm sure Dottie has someone staying with her, behind those closed drapes. And I hope no one harms her; we need her for any future legal action that might arise.

She has excellent hearing, so I guess she's staying up 24 hours to hear any trouble brewing. Or, maybe she just thinks she's hearing things.

Anyway, it's good to see local LE is immediately able to rule out any connection to Jerry's crimes. R-I-G-H-T...

 

[waltzingmatilda]

CDT's headline:
Police investigate 'suspicious activity' at Jerry Sandusky home

Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/07/...#storylink=omni_popular#wgt=pop#storylink=cpy

Late at night over the weekend. I'm sure Dottie has someone staying with her, behind those closed drapes. And I hope no one harms her; we need her for any future legal action that might arise.

She has excellent hearing, so I guess she's staying up 24 hours to hear any trouble brewing. Or, maybe she just thinks she's hearing things.

Anyway, it's good to see local LE is immediately able to rule out any connection to Jerry's crimes. R-I-G-H-T...

I beleive them! (sarcasm)

 

[StellarsJay]

Amendola interview-
http://www.110sportspodcast.com/2012/06/episode-161-joe-amendola/
Blurry sound, I think he said he cut Jerry a deal on fees and when he found out that Second Mile's insurance was paying, he had to stay with the low quote.
Asked if he planned to write a book about the Sandusky trial, Amendola said something to the effect that if he wrote about his law experiences it would fill more than one book but one might be called "Travels with Jerry" after Steinbeck's "Travels with Charlie".
Modest as usual.

 

[believe09]

How does the Paterno family know the content of all emails involving Joe? If they have them, they should release them I would think. *shrug*

 

[StellarsJay]

Has the date been set for the Curley and Schultz trial or just for a preliminary thing?
My experience with people with lung cancer is that they're often dead in 4 to 6 months- Curley may not make it and then these emails can make him the scapegoat.

 

[pinktoes]

I'm trying to find out if the juvie probation officer Terry L Trude worked with Patty Fornicola. I know Patty and her former husband Tom Blackenstoe were both probation-parole officers in Centre County when they married in 1989. I saw Trude's name on a legal document in another case in 1994. We know he was the probation officer for Matt (Heichel) Sandusky in 1995-1996.

So, did he and Patty ever work together? When did she leave Centre County probation-parole?

Thanks for any help.

 

[ohiogirl]

Pennsylvania legislator wants to revoke Jerry Sandusky retirement payout

Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/07/...islator-wants.html#wgt=rcntnews#storylink=cpy

 

[pinktoes]

Has the date been set for the Curley and Schultz trial or just for a preliminary thing?
My experience with people with lung cancer is that they're often dead in 4 to 6 months- Curley may not make it and then these emails can make him the scapegoat.

Don't think so, although I believe they're aiming for August. Here's the last court activity on their joint cases. It requires defense atty to file Omnibus Pretrial Motions by July 30, and Commonwealth's atty to file its response by August 14:

http://www.dauphincounty.org/_files/3416.pdf

And here's where you can read all the activity in their cases. Looks like most recent activity will be at the end of the entries:

http://www.dauphincounty.org/court-departments/curley-schultz/

 

[pinktoes]

Don't go read this if you're gonna come back here and complain about me. I'm as full of rage and sadness as I can be. And don't know what role Paterno played.

However, sometimes I need a little comic relief. And it's in the article linked below. A parody of how it might have gone in Paterno's conversations with the PSU admins if he were innocent:

art.titled: What If Joe Paterno Was Innocent? Hypothetical Dialogues From A Dark Time At Penn State

http://deadspin.com/5923000/what-if...ark-time-at-penn-state?tag=penn-state-scandal

 

[seattlechiquita]

Pennsylvania legislator wants to revoke Jerry Sandusky retirement payout

Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/07/...islator-wants.html#wgt=rcntnews#storylink=cpy

...and I hope they succeed. Would hate that him or Sarge would get one cent. Pair of !@$%% :banghead:

 

[Reader]

Don't go read this if you're gonna come back here and complain about me. I'm as full of rage and sadness as I can be. And don't know what role Paterno played.

However, sometimes I need a little comic relief. And it's in the article linked below. A parody of how it might have gone in Paterno's conversations with the PSU admins if he were innocent:

art.titled: What If Joe Paterno Was Innocent? Hypothetical Dialogues From A Dark Time At Penn State

http://deadspin.com/5923000/what-if...ark-time-at-penn-state?tag=penn-state-scandal

No complaints!

 

[believe09]

Pennsylvania legislator wants to revoke Jerry Sandusky retirement payout

Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/07/...islator-wants.html#wgt=rcntnews#storylink=cpy

Oh I think he is doing Jerry a favor. Reducing his income....

 

[Pensfan]

Pennsylvania legislator wants to revoke Jerry Sandusky retirement payout

Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/07/...islator-wants.html#wgt=rcntnews#storylink=cpy

Why stop there? Revoke Corbett's, the 3 Stooges', Paterno's, and any others that went into CYA mode and failed to stop Jerry from raping more boys!

 

[Pensfan]

Has the date been set for the Curley and Schultz trial or just for a preliminary thing?
My experience with people with lung cancer is that they're often dead in 4 to 6 months- Curley may not make it and then these emails can make him the scapegoat.

Good call! There is a reason that only a few emails were leaked. (Blame it all on the dead guys.)

If this is recorded in history as "Curley and JoePa were the only two bad men that enabled Sandusky", it will be a filthy disgrace. There were clearly others and they need to be punished and shamed.

Sociopaths are four times as likely to be at the top of the corporate ladder. ~Robert Hare (Canadian psychologist who created the "famous" checklist for recognizing sociopaths)

Release alllllllllllll the emails!

 

[pinktoes]

I'm mixed about Jer's pension. There are already civil suits against him by his victims and will no doubt be more. So, I'm thinking it'd be nice for them to get a Judgment and attach that income.

There is a precedent for denying him his pension, but it won't hold legally because it derives from Social Security. A SSI recipient receives their benefits for some number of days after an incarceration, after which time it is withheld. IDK if that's only in the case of incarceration in federal pen or also applies to states.

If it's gonna go to him, not his victims, then I wish it could be taken away. He certainly won't need $59K a year. And I don't care for Dottie to have it either.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Good call! There is a reason that only a few emails were leaked. (Blame it all on the dead guys.)

If this is recorded in history as "Curley and JoePa were the only two bad men that enabled Sandusky", it will be a filthy disgrace. There were clearly others and they need to be punished and shamed.

Sociopaths are four times as likely to be at the top of the corporate ladder. ~Robert Hare (Canadian psychologist who created the "famous" checklist for recognizing sociopaths)

Release alllllllllllll the emails!

Schultz is facing charges because of his grand jury testimony. Even with Curley and Paterno out of the picture, hypothetically, he still has a problem.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Two Videos:

Fascinating discussion of the emails and Paterno from Hardball with Michael Smerconish, journalist Jeremy Roebuck of the Philadelphia Inquirer, and Buzz Bissinger, author of Friday Night Lights and Sports columnist for Daily Beast.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/hardball/48050844/#48050844

In-depth focus by Smerconish on McQueary's resume and why he believes McQ was hired by Paterno.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/ns/msnbc_tv-hardball_with_chris_matthews/#48051055

RE: BBM

I have always felt it was very odd that McQueary got that job with so little experience and posted as much night before last. When you hear that report, you hear that a much more experienced ex Penn State All American was available at the time McQueary was hired.

hhhhhhhmmmmm, indeed.

JMO

 

[BigCat]

I still don't know what to make of these leaks. Anthony Lubano, who was elected to the Penn State BOT back in May, posted the damaging info in the leaked email on a PSU football message board early last week. The guy is a real loose-cannon and the number one Joe Pa cultist.

I have some hypothetical questions for all of you. What if, on a very high level, Joe was aware in 98 of the JS investigation? Furthermore, what if JVP initiated JS's separation months before the 98 investigation began, thus confirming that his decision had nothing to do with the investigation? What if Spanier, Schultz and Curley conferred with legal counsel in 2001 as well as with JVP before deciding on a plan of action? I'd like to know your knee-jerk reactions to these hypothetical situations.6/27 10:36 PM | IP: Logged ]

And why were these emails made public on the Friday evening before the 4th of July? Obviously the intent was to mitigate the damage caused by release of the information contained in the emails. It's a classic political maneuver.

I wouldn't put it pass the Paternos to be playing some PR game here. Scott Paterno styles himself a political strategist.

http://www.politico.com/arena/bio/scott_paterno.html

 

[J. J. in Phila]

And why were these emails made public on the Friday evening before the 4th of July? Obviously the intent was to mitigate the damage caused by release of the information contained in the emails. It's a classic political maneuver.

I wouldn't put it pass the Paternos to be playing some PR game here. Scott Paterno styles himself a political strategist.

http://www.politico.com/arena/bio/scott_paterno.html

It would have had less impact if it came out today, or Thursday or Friday.

I do not see an upside, unless Curley stands up and said, **I was lying in that e-mail. I never talked to Joe.** The problem is, it makes no sense for him to lie in an e-mail to Spanier and Schultz.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Why stop there? Revoke Corbett's, the 3 Stooges', Paterno's, and any others that went into CYA mode and failed to stop Jerry from raping more boys!

Corbett didn't go into CYA mode. He was actually on the DPW list because of Corbett's investigation.