Penn State's athletic director plus ex-Paterno assistant charged in child sex case

[Dr.Fessel]

I think we are going to find out there were kids really physically hurt by this freak and his rapes and they had a dr. help them. IMO

 

[Cortne]

he was probably in the hot tub, distracted.

<modsnip>.

Will u remove my rude remark pls?

 

[LolaMoon08]

It makes me really sad to see all these young adults protesting (rioting?) the firing of Joe P. when they should have been protesting (rioting) for his immediate resignation.

Joe P is no better than all these mothers who sit back and watch their children being abused/killed by their boyfriends. He was in a position of power at Penn State. A man who was idolized and respected. How could he turn his back on these innocent children?? For the sake of a football program??

Something tells me this is going to get a heck of a lot worse before it gets better.

Hopefully all these students will go home and really think about what this is all about and it isn't about a stupid football coach or stupid football team. This is about numerous peoples lives that have been destroyed by the actions of all the people involved... just because Joe P. didn't molest these children with his own hands... he victimized them just as much by knowing what was going on and allowing it to continue.

 

[elainebenice]

There's been some talk about the financial impact this will all have on Penn State. The millions of $$$$ in lawsuits, NCAA sanctions (possibly), etc etc.

Here's a question:
How do you feel if Penn State gets mired down in all this money-wise, that the government or Dept of Ed offers to bail them out? Should they?

I don't think anyone should give them any financial assistance to put toward any liabilities resulting from these crimes, but if someone did, it would be the state of Pennsylvannia, not the Federal Gov or Dept or Education. I'm sure in a a round about way there will ultimately be money "moved around" in the state's education budget to help offset some of the $100's of millions that could likely be in jeopardy from future civil judgments, but I can't see any direct funding being tolerated by state residents. Penn State probably has one of the largest endowments among public schools, which they can use to pay some of the victims or in a more likely scenario use as security for much larger loans or lines of credit. I doubt any insurance policy they could possibly have would pay out in the event of voluntary criminal acts, but you never know I guess. You can be sure that the school won't be offering any financial assistance to help with judgments that may be won by victims against the various individuals in their individual capacities.

 

[pinkfly]

Some day when these protesting students are sending their own children to sports camps I hope tonight comes back to haunt them big time. They may be wanting to fight against the fact that their school is now very tarnished but they are really making it worse.

Totally agree with earlier post about the need to let the athletes out of their commitment without a year penalty. Kind of tough on the recruiters now......

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Thankx elainebenice.

Wonder if endowments can be taken back or cancelled or terminated?


hhmmmm..............:waitasec:

 

[doubt]

There's been some talk about the financial impact this will all have on Penn State. The millions of $$$$ in lawsuits, NCAA sanctions (possibly), etc etc.

Here's a question:
How do you feel if Penn State gets mired down in all this money-wise, that the government or Dept of Ed offers to bail them out? Should they?

i read an article suggesting this might happen. it might have been a comment after the article. my brain is fried at the moment. but in answer to your question.....HE double hockey sticks NO. i would like to think if it ever became a real possibility, the public outcry would prevent it.

 

[doubt]

oops. sorry for that ashton k remark. i should go to sleep now, clearly.

 

[elainebenice]

Thankx elainebenice.

Wonder if endowments can be taken back or cancelled or terminated?


hhmmmm..............:waitasec:

Individual donors can place various stipulations and restrictions on their donations, but it typically doesn't include any that would trigger a refund, although I'm sure its possible. Generally, the school's total investment value is referred to as its endowment and based on a quick google search, it looks like Penn State's endowment as of last year was approximately $1.52 billion.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

What channel you watching Dr.?

 

[Cortne]

I feel a sleepless night coming on.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

What channel you watching Dr.?

Ok big mistake, I was watching a live stream and it turns out it is occupy Berkley.:blushing:

 

[ynotdivein]

Pardon me while I gag slightly and post the following:

"Horrific closing chapter shouldn't overshadow Paterno's entire career"

Ack. Ack. Ahem.

:cow:

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Pardon me while I gag slightly and post the following:

"Horrific closing chapter shouldn't overshadow Paterno's entire career"

Ack. Ack. Ahem.

:cow:

IMO his closing chapter just makes him a hypocrit in the worse way. "You better do as I say on this hand" and don't pay any attention to what that other hand is doing (or not doing).

 

[Salem]

Pardon me while I gag slightly and post the following:

"Horrific closing chapter shouldn't overshadow Paterno's entire career"

Ack. Ack. Ahem.

:cow:

This stuff chokes me! For at least 10+ years, this dude's reputation was at the expense of child victims. That is all I will ever remember about this 'coach.'

Salem

 

[Trident]

Pardon me while I gag slightly and post the following:

"Horrific closing chapter shouldn't overshadow Paterno's entire career"

Ack. Ack. Ahem.

:cow:

"The evil that men do lives after them; The good is oft interred with their bones". - Shakespeare

"For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known." Luke 12:2

A good lesson for all of us?

 

[Concerned Papa]

my thoughts exactly.....although i also wondered if it might have to do with a missing former prosecutor, but i don't guess that's likely.

here's a question. if you guys have posted about this on fb, have you gotten much reaction? i posted about it and the ODDEST thing is, nobody said a word! that never happens so i was just sort of puzzled by it.

Ray Gricar, the District Attorney who decided not to prosecute Sandusky for one of his victims, has been missing since April 15, 2005.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gricar_ray.html

 

[BrownRice]

I cannot believe there will "only" be 20 victims. Sandusky was living in a child predator's "Disneyland" for years. I wouldn't be surprised if there were hundreds.

One thing I am disgusted/flabbergasted about is the fact Sandusky is out on $100k bond. Nobody seems to be discussing that. How does that happen? He should be in jail. I wonder if he is trying to discreetly contact victims, offer $, etc. I'm sure he is not home reading his bible.

I'm thankful the BOT had the courage to do the right thing. I think McQ should be relieved from his position as well. He was an adult when he witnessed this. Going to daddy and JoePa wasn't enough if the police were not later contacted. He had 10 years or so more to work with Sandusky. How did he look him in the eye?

 

[angelmom]

Pardon me while I gag slightly and post the following:

"Horrific closing chapter shouldn't overshadow Paterno's entire career"

Ack. Ack. Ahem.

:cow:

Actually, while it's a crappy title for the story, it's a pretty decent article. It shows how child sex abusers and their enablers are not always the dirty old man down the street or the emo teenager. They live among us, they are the good guys, they often have admirable lives. We at WS don't need this reminder, but a lot of the world does.

For every predator whose best friend says, "I knew him. He couldn't have done this;" for every child who says, "He changed my life. He couldn't have done this;" for every wife who says, "We had a wonderful marriage; he couldn't have done this;" I say look at Sandusky. Look at Paterno. Look at McQueary and all these men who - YES - did incredible good in their lives.

It is possible that a good guy does horrible things and the people closest to him don't know about it. It's possible for a good and decent man by all other accounts to make a decision that those he loves cannot even fathom.

It's a lesson for everyone who thinks this can't happen in their own life.

 

[Concerned Papa]

This is a good article and video with Matt Millen, a former Penn State player.

"It makes you sick to see that this could happen," Millen said. "If in fact it has happened, there's just a part of you where you want to go and take care of it yourself...This is about people, and if we can't protect our kids, we, as a society, are pathetic."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-watch-matt-millen-shed-tears-on-sportscenter