Penn State's athletic director plus ex-Paterno assistant charged in child sex case

[Emeralgem]

Joe P needs to GO and GO NOW...
He just doesn't get it...
He stated in an interview I saw earlier that he prays for his grandchildren every night and he will NOW START praying for the victims.. I have a problem with his "NOW START" mentality....JMHO...

 

[zippitydoda]

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...-paterno-to-retire-at-the-end-of-the-season/1

STATE COLLEGE, Pa., Nov. 9, 2011 — I am absolutely devastated by the developments in this case. I grieve for the children and their families, and I pray for their comfort and relief.

-Devastated by the developments - yes, now that its all being seen in the light of day

I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today.

-Best interests of this university - priority one

That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can. This is a tragedy. It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more.

-Complete and utter arrogance - he's basically telling the BOT that he'll go out on his terms - not theirs

My goals now are to keep my commitments to my players and staff and finish the season with dignity and determination. And then I will spend the rest of my life doing everything I can to help this University.

-Diginity? That ship has sailed. Shame on you, and all others, who not only looked the other way, but went out of their way to continue to support this monster

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I was out watching the news with my 83 year old mother and HLN was playing this clip and she goes my god he sounds just like Michael Jackson.

You know she is right.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O0EeTDWVPc"]RAW VIDEO: Joe Paterno talks to Penn State students from his window - YouTube[/ame]

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Being a practicing Catholic could also have played a part in WHY Paterno and possibly others didn't do more to STOP the abuse. Unfortunately there has been and still is alot of denial going on concerning practicing Catholics, and the involvement of sexual abuse at the hands of those who have power in the church...For the record.. I am a Catholic...JMHO

ETA..For certain many parishoners refuse to confront the problem head on, just hoping it will ALL go away..JMHO

DH and I had this exact conversation when he got home this evening. (I attended parochial school for 12 years.) The circumstances in the Penn State case are very similar to sex abuse cases that have come to light involving Catholic priests. Both of my brothers were altar boys, neither ever married, and both have had strained relationships with women all their lives. I can't help wondering if one or both of them were victims of one of our parish priests. If something like this had taken place, they would have been terrified to report such behavior to our parents, let alone going to LE. jmo

 

[Steely Dan]

I agree that he came to work every day for 61 years and worked on behalf of the best interests of the university. Fair statement, and no he does not get it.

Now I understand why the University does not want to cut him loose and have him handle this on his own, as another poster alluded to.

I think we know who wields the most power at Penn State now. It's Joe and I bet it was back when all of this happened. So the, "I reported it to my superiors", doesn't fly with me. He was the El Supremo at Penn State. I wonder if he didn't pressure the "higher ups" to look the other way. JMO

Report: PSU may oust president Spanier today

more at cbssports.com link above

When the President goes Joe should be walking right next to him. JMO

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...-paterno-to-retire-at-the-end-of-the-season/1

STATE COLLEGE, Pa., Nov. 9, 2011 — I am absolutely devastated by the developments in this case. I grieve for the children and their families, and I pray for their comfort and relief.

-Devastated by the developments - yes, now that its all being seen in the light of day

I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today.

-Best interests of this university - priority one

That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can. This is a tragedy. It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more.

-Complete and utter arrogance - he's basically telling the BOT that he'll go out on his terms - not theirs

My goals now are to keep my commitments to my players and staff and finish the season with dignity and determination. And then I will spend the rest of my life doing everything I can to help this University.

-Diginity? That ship has sailed. Shame on you, and all others, who not only looked the other way, but went out of their way to continue to support this monster

:clap: :clap:

 

[Ada]

Madden: Sandusky a State secret (Beaver County Times)
Posted: Sunday, April 3, 2011 11:55 pm | Updated: 4:34 pm, Mon Apr 4, 2011.



This story's been known for quite awhile but, for whatever reason, it was buried until the attorney general released the damning report a few days ago. Much more by-now-familiar-sounding stuff at link above.

From the above linked article (BBM) :

If Paterno and Penn State knew, but didn't act, instead facilitating Sandusky's untroubled retirement - are Paterno and Penn State responsible for untoward acts since committed by Sandusky?

Untoward acts?!! Hey Madden, I appreciate your interest but, really, untoward acts? How about criminal acts against children?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Probably should go back looking for missing little boys in this guys time period.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

From the above linked article (BBM) :



Untoward acts?!! Hey Madden, I appreciate your interest but, really, untoward acts? How about criminal acts against children?

Or why not rapes?

 

[Ada]

Or why not rapes?

You are right. Here, I fixed Madden's quote:

If Paterno and Penn State knew, but didn't act, instead facilitating Sandusky's untroubled retirement - are Paterno and Penn State responsible for the continued rape of children since committed by Sandusky?

That sounds better.

(disclaimer: in case anyone missed it, I altered that above quote by Madden. That is not an accurate quote)

 

[wfgodot]

Untoward acts?!! Hey Madden, I appreciate your interest but, really, untoward acts? How about criminal acts against children?

To be fair to Mark Madden, I don't think anyone (that is, anyone off the Penn State campus) knew of the exact and harrowing nature of Sandusky's acts until the attorney general's report was released this week, seven months after the article was published.

 

[Ada]

To be fair to Mark Madden, I don't think anyone (that is, anyone off the Penn State campus) knew of the exact and harrowing nature of Sandusky's acts until the attorney general's report was released this week, seven months after the article was published.

Thank you! I didn't notice the date of that article. Ok, backing off Madden, for now.

 

[wfgodot]

Nike Has No Comment On Penn State, Does Have A Child Care Center In Oregon Named For Joe Paterno

The story at Deadspin link above.

 

[wfgodot]

Another one from Deadspin (which has done yeoman work in looking into every aspect of the Penn State/Sandusky et al. case)

The Mystery Of Ray Gricar, The Prosecutor Who Failed To Prosecute Jerry Sandusky (And Who Might Be Dead)

Again, WS does have a well-established thread on the Gricar disappearance:[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134500"]PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #6[/ame].

Deadspin article at link above is a good overview of the case, in light of what has recently transpired.

 

[believe09]

I can't believe it either. I have a real problem with the first 28-year old man (graduate assistant) not intervening and calling 911 right away. Instead he calls Daddy? Then Daddy calls JoePa and they all have a meeting the next day? Are you kidding me? If junior wasn't man enough to call 911, then I guess Daddy wasn't either. That makes me very angry. Were they so beholding to JoePa for junior's assistant job that they felt obligated to go through him and then keep quiet? I just don't get it.

If that was the 28-year old man's 10-year old brother, nephew, next door neighbor or sister being raped would he have intervened? Called 911? Or just called Daddy and had tea with JoePa the next day?

He was so appalled that he did nothing but tell Daddy and JoePa? He was so appalled that when nothing was ever done that he didn't go to the police on his own?

Same with the janitor. I don't give any of them a pass. They think that telling a supervisor resolves them of any responsibility. No. It was a child and they did nothing to stop it or report the crime to law enforcement. Talk about morally bankrupt. How could they not do anything???

Major moral issue for the individuals involved...all of them and an absolute institutional and cultural problem for Penn State. Those kids cheering at the pep rally on JoePa's lawn last night, need to read the indictment and do a little soul searching. Hope we don't see them having a pep rally for the recently departed former Bishop in Philly. Same thing.

JoePa should have left years ago. He doesn't get it and at his age, probably didn't get it 15 years ago and won't get it tomorrow. He should just leave now.

:twocents:

Wish I could double thank this post.

 

[believe09]

Anyone else curious as to why Mrs Sandusky called one of the victims?? Before his GJ testimony, IIRC.

 

[wfgodot]

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The U.S. Department of Education said it will launch an investigation into whether Penn State failed to comply with an act requiring colleges and universities to disclose the number of reported criminal incidents on campus each year. "In addition, in certain cases, the institution must issue a timely warning if a reported crime represents a threat to the campus community," it said in a statement.

"If these allegations of sexual abuse are true then this is a horrible tragedy for those young boys. If it turns out that some people at the school knew of the abuse and did nothing or covered it up, that makes it even worse," Education Secretary Arne Duncan said in a statement. "Schools and school officials have a legal and moral responsibility to protect children and young people from violence and abuse."
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/09/justice/pennsylvania-coach-abuse-charges/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[LNL]

Anyone else curious as to why Mrs Sandusky called one of the victims?? Before his GJ testimony, IIRC.

Yes.

Isn't that witness tampering?

I also wonder if Mrs. Sandusky knew that there was more than one child involved.

 

[Ada]

Yes.

Isn't that witness tampering?

I also wonder if Mrs. Sandusky knew that there was more than one child involved.

And then you have to ask, if it was your husband, how many children would need to be involved before you kicked him to the curb?

 

[cluciano63]

Another one from Deadspin (which has done yeoman work in looking into every aspect of the Penn State/Sandusky et al. case)

The Mystery Of Ray Gricar, The Prosecutor Who Failed To Prosecute Jerry Sandusky (And Who Might Be Dead)

Again, WS does have a well-established thread on the Gricar disappearance:PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #6.

Deadspin article at link above is a good overview of the case, in light of what has recently transpired.

IMO, Deadspin almost always does a great job in reporting and investigating and are almost always right on the money as far as I know. They don't get enough credit.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

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