Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #1

[Linda7NJ]

has this been posted yet?
http://dailyworldtrends.com/joran-v...ear-peru-border-after-committing-suicide/1720

Joran committed suicide?

No way, I don't believe it.

No way will he kill himself. Psychopaths never do.

 

[kwmred]

Why is there not a Natalee Hollaway forum on this site? Just curious... since we still one for J B Ramsey.

 

[epiphany]

I am a little uncomfortable with this fight with the father. Mulitiple stab wounds is usually a lot of anger and a beating.
Do you think she was hiding from Dad in Jorans room?

My impression was that the argument with her father was because she had returned home (after dropping her friends off: they must have all been at the casino together). Daughter wanted to return to casino (she probably had already met VDS), and father did not want her to leave home again. Common disagreement with young adults that age (21) when they live (or return from university) home.

 

[KR2tonenow]

If there were sightings of Joran V. in Chile today, possibly he freaked or someone else killed him. Wouldn't surprise me if the father sent folks after him....imo

 

[scandi]

Looks like the buses don't cross the border. You get off and get a different kind of ride. Taxi, shuttle, that sort of thing.
http://www.allchile.net/chileforum/topic2112.html

What a Web Sleuther you are STEADFAST to find that! :blowkiss:

 

[grace60]

I think with cell phones, laptops etc he knows he is wanted and will kill himself. He's to arrogant to spend time in prison.

 

[Beyond Belief]

I wonder why she went home after dropping off the friends.

 

[Leila]

If ya ask me, his dad cleaned up his mess last time.

Good point! They did replace Joran's mattress...............

 

[Chanler]

Oh yeah. But I don't think that Surinam would let him go to Peru if there was pressure from the Netherlands. And you can bet there will be.

No, actually I would not bet that there would be. Remember, Joran was in the Netherlands when Aruba wanted him brought back to be interrogated. They got their way without trouble.

The Netherlands is generally adjudged one of the premier legal systems in the world.

 

[Elphaba]

I could see someone offing him, but it would shock me if the selfish miscreant took his own life.

 

[trigger]

yep

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166995,00.html

Its going to be on Nightline ....

Sorry 3doglady I don't know why I couldn't post this on its own page

 

[scandi]

Why is there not a Natalee Hollaway forum on this site? Just curious... since we still one for J B Ramsey.

I think it got too hot and heated at times.

 

[Kat]

I got to watch a few minutes of coverage on tv. IIRC a question was posed by a caller if Stephany was strangled. Indicating that it was thought that Joran had strangled Natalee and this girl possibly as well (what I inferred from the question).

I had a thought. We don't know where and how Natalee died. We don't know the cause of death.

But it interesting, (if reports coming out now are proven correct) that he has an MO.

A specific MO. I don't doubt that he has left a trail of murdered young women in his wake.

I agree with Linda7NJ but wanted to ask you Linda, do you think it's possible at this time we are looking at a serial killer as well? I know we will have to see how many there were but given what we see with these two young women what do you think?

In the interview that Stephany's father gave he names specifically where the car was found. Does anyone have the address from the hotel so we can see how far it was---just to have a looksee?

 

[nosysw]

I wonder why she went home after dropping off the friends.

what if she didn't come home again and daddy figured out where she went and followed and was NOT happy...so VDS takes off and...(hey we have to look at all angles, but yeah, I'm 99% sure VDS did it!)

 

[Chanler]

I think it got too hot and heated at times.

It did get hot and heavy at times, as both of us remember, but I think that it was archived when the case got cold.

 

[Leila]

So, do you think Daddy could have killed her? Just playing devil's advocate! I know this will immediately, be shot down!

She was with Joran at the casino, and when they left, others probably didn't know where they were headed. For all they know, they were going to another casino or going their separate ways. Her father probably didn't know where she was.

 

[Betty P]

News story interviewed taxi drivers. Apparently, he tried to use his airline ticket to get to Cusco, but was unable to do so.

Google translation:

First paid for transportation of 1,500 soles to Nasca Ica and then paid 280 soles to be taken to Arica, Chile. That was how the country would have left the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, the alleged murderer of the young Stephany Flores, daughter of businessman and racer Ricardo Flores.

This happened last Sunday, according to Oswaldo Aparcana, taxi driver responsible for transporting the Nasca Dutchman who observed it and a lot of nervousness manifested in the constant consumption of cigarettes.

Pisconte Aparcana also told that the suspect was wearing shorts and white sneakers, and was in possession of two suitcases.

"We have left Nasca at 12 pm or so and have come to Arica at four in the afternoon of Monday," he told RPP radio station.

He added that Van der Sloot also had a ticket to Cusco, where he apparently was going to run on Sunday, but that ultimately failed to do.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/489040/holandes-joran-van-der-sloot-pago780-soles-salir-pais

 

[Linda7NJ]

I got to watch a few minutes of coverage on tv. IIRC a question was posed by a caller if Stephany was strangled. Indicating that it was thought that Joran had strangled Natalee and this girl possibly as well (what I inferred from the question).

I had a thought. We don't know where and how Natalee died. We don't know the cause of death.

But it interesting, (if reports coming out now are proven correct) that he has an MO.

A specific MO. I don't doubt that he has left a trail of murdered young women in his wake.

I agree with Linda7NJ but wanted to ask you Linda, do you think it's possible at this time we are looking at a serial killer as well? I know we will have to see how many there were but given what we see with these two young women what do you think?

In the interview that Stephany's father gave he names specifically where the car was found. Does anyone have the address from the hotel so we can see how far it was---just to have a looksee?

Absolutely, I believe he could very well be a world traveling serial killer with a long list of victims. I do recall reading here, long ago...something about another girl that went "missing" that he was involved with?

I think it's 50 blocks away.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'd like to know where he was every year since the anniversary of Natalee's death...as well as the years before her death. Perhaps he killed every year on that date for a long time. I want to know if any young women in those areas went missing on or right around that date or turned up murdered.

 

[Beyond Belief]

He was hiding in Asia according to the conversation i am listening too between greta and o'reilly.